1969 Dodge Daytona Bobby Allison Racer - Mecum Auction

[Troy]

Well, they're featuring it in their TV advertising. It says something like "banned by NASCAR before it had a chance to race".

Troy

[nascarxx29]

[68X426]

What's the story? 

'Cause it looks real (plug, nose, dam, wing, vent window, fuel filler, scoops).

And is it a 426 or the 305?

[hemigeno]

What's the story?  

'Cause it looks real (plug, nose, dam, wing, vent window, fuel filler, scoops).

And is it a 426 or the 305?

WHAT plug, nose, dam, wing fuel filler and scoops?  

You must be looking at a different car.  Take a look at the pictures posted of the Mecum auction car early on in this thread and feel free to revise your comment about how real you think it is.  Those all look WAY off to me.

Oh, and no one has been able to see the engine compartment of the car.  My guess is that it would be readily apparent from a comparison of that car's engine to the known pictures of the Keith Black "lunchbox" motor to show the car's motor to be incorrect.

[68X426]

No, not the fake. Nothing to revise, I was not writing about the fake. You missed that I was referencing the photo that nascarxx29 posted, that I replied to.

What's the story means the story on what looks like a real Allison 22 Daytona. It appears that the components are real, as I noted that seven of seven features are correct in the photo from nascarxx29.

The fake is still the fake.

[hemigeno]

Gotcha.  My mistake.

The picture Dave posted (and things like that only serve to confuse the issue, since this thread is SUPPOSED to be about the Mecum car) is probably of the #22 Rossi car that Doug/Aero426 talked about in his reply of Jan. 10th.  AFAIK, this is the same car which was hawked at Barrett-Jackson a couple years ago.  At the time, lots of folks thought it might bring a repeat of the big numbers Cotton Owens' #6 had pulled through eBay not too long before.  Didn't happen.  IIRC, that auction didn't break half of what the #6 had pulled, mostly due to the question marks Doug already spelled out.

Still, it was a correct - looking car... in a totally different league to the fake car at Mecum.

[Aero426]

No, not the fake. Nothing to revise, I was not writing about the fake. You missed that I was referencing the photo that nascarxx29 posted, that I replied to.

What's the story means the story on what looks like a real Allison 22 Daytona. It appears that the components are real, as I noted that seven of seven features are correct in the photo from nascarxx29.

The fake is still the fake.

The #22 posted above is a real Nichels built race car.   It "may" even be a real Allison car, or it may not.    It has nothing to do with the Mecum auction car.

[Aero426]

Oh, and no one has been able to see the engine compartment of the car.  My guess is that it would be readily apparent from a comparison of that car's engine to the known pictures of the Keith Black "lunchbox" motor to show the car's motor to be incorrect.

Late last week, Terry Nichels was sent photos of the Mecum car including the underhood.    The owner asked the question, "So what part of this is a Nichels Engineering car?".     The answer was predictable.    Reportedly there is a lot of "stock" left under the hood with a 340 small block.

[nascarxx29]

There to be compared Pat Mc kinney built one this guy in FL built one and the real one .I had pictures of all 3 not even sure sometimes which is which without a dated archive picture

[nascarxx29]

http://www.picsearch.com/info.cgi?q=%221969%20DAYTONA%22&id=JIKvJ7TWbwiLcyzmcxhvf2FNi5wtZEQDBig3nmf3txo&start=41

[grdprx]

My bad, I don't have a cool wing on the back of my charger, so I don't fly the Aero side much....   

[nascarxx29]

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/98998,9079/1969-Dodge-Daytona-Charger-NASCAR_photo.aspx

[Aero426]

Oh, and no one has been able to see the engine compartment of the car.  My guess is that it would be readily apparent from a comparison of that car's engine to the known pictures of the Keith Black "lunchbox" motor to show the car's motor to be incorrect.

Gene,  go to www.mecum.com     Scroll down the page and click on the Kissimmee auction video clip.   They will show the underhood of the fake car.   It has stock inner fenders and firewall - a total joke. 

[pettybird]

if this thing hits big bucks I'm having the Robbins family sign off on Marty.

[Aero426]

if this thing hits big bucks I'm having the Robbins family sign off on Marty.

That could work for 'ya.    Marty tested it, but never raced it.  It was mothballed in a barn in amish country after he died and was recently discovered.   

[moparstuart]

if this thing hits big bucks I'm having the Robbins family sign off on Marty.

That could work for 'ya.    Marty tested it, but never raced it.  It was mothballed in a barn in amish country after he died and was recently discovered.   

[Aero426]

Marty's long lost cousin Marvin Robbins will vouch for the authenticity.

[68X426]

Marty's long lost cousin Marvin Robbins will vouch for the authenticity.

You are KILLING me!!  Damn funny.

[pettybird]

if this thing hits big bucks I'm having the Robbins family sign off on Marty.

That could work for 'ya.    Marty tested it, but never raced it.  It was mothballed in a barn in amish country after he died and was recently discovered.   

it's a rare 5.7 liter hemi test car right now, but i could put a 340 in it if you think it'd help.

[hemigeno]

Would that make it even more rare, to have a cheated-up 305??

[pettybird]

Marty's long lost cousin Marvin Robbins will vouch for the authenticity.

I had to think about this overnight

it was

melvin petty
homer issac
baskin robbins

[Aero426]

I had forgotten all about those names.   Good times.

[Hemi_tyme]

High Bid: $210,000...The bid goes on

[Aero426]

210k and no sale?   Perhaps the chandeliers in the building were doing the bidding.   

[moparstuart]

210k and no sale?   Perhaps the chandeliers in the building were doing the bidding.   

DUDE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE MONEY AND RAN