69 headlight door holder upper thingys

[twodko]

I know the subject line is highly technical but what are they really called and where can I get a couple of them? Thanks

Tom

[b5blue]

Vacuum servo thingys? 

[Nacho-RT74]

no, the thingy what support the thingy on top of the thingy LOL

[b5blue]

OH...The Thingy thingy thing! Thanks for clearing that up! 

[resq302]

Are you talking about the W shaped bar that holds the vacuum pod to the plastic door or the metal braket that secures the vacuum pod?

[twodko]

I wish I had a picture. It appears to be a stabilizer of sorts that steadies the headlight doors when they're open.................kinda thingy. I've seen them mounted on the vacuum pod tray.

Tom

[resq302]

Are you talking about the flat rubber coated piece of metal?

[jaak]

I think he means this (borrowed a pic from TESH).....




Jason

[twodko]

Brian and Jason,

That's the thingy! Thanks guys for the picture. Does anyone sell them?

Tom

[bill440rt]

I know exactly what thingies you're talking about. Strange, but I think this was a '69-only item. My '68 does not have them, & I've gone thru several '68 grilles which also did not have them.
They used one per side. It's basically used to hold the headlight door open while servicing the headlamps.
I may have some kicking around. You need a pair??

[TylerCharger69]

OH!!!   THAT thingy!!!!

[b5blue]

Well there you go! A "Headlight Door Lamp Service Retainer Brace" (thingy!) Boy that sure is allot more complicated headlight door mechanism then on a 70. (They just have that goofy relay set up)  

[twodko]

Thanks guys!

Bill I'm not sure if this was a 1969 "early build" without them or a "late build" with them part. My grille has the holes for them but no hardware. The grille was never pulled before I removed it for resto so I'm thinking my car never had them. Thank you for the offer but if my car never had them I'm leaving them off. What is the concensus here regarding these retainer braces? Keep it '69 correct or pass on these small parts? I'm returning the car to its former glory but it won't be a 100 point car by any means.

Tom

[tan top]

my 69  SPD 22nd november 68 was  previously unrestored ,  grill had never been off , had them  metal thingys        

[Nacho-RT74]

mmmm, on 68s the door was hold open with magnets inside the vacuum, helping to keep them folded up.

I know 69s got a diff vacuum, without those magnets, and getting some "torsion spring" what i think now maybe is THAT THINGY ( what is not a Torsion spring really, but simply a spring ).

soooo, maybe thats the deal on this ? earliers 69 getting actuators still with magnet

[bill440rt]

Never heard of those magnets before... 

[Nacho-RT74]

they are built in the actuator housing:

scroll down up to the end of page
http://www.chargerspecialties.com/vacuum.htm

[Hemidog]

Man, I was beginning to worry that I was missing ANOTHER thing on my 68.... my headlights stay up without vacuum, no problem...

[tan top]

they are built in the actuator housing:

scroll down up to the end of page
http://www.chargerspecialties.com/vacuum.htm

intresting    wonder what the original part numders are for all 3 

[Nacho-RT74]

come oooon, suposelly I know a little bit about 3rd gens but not about 2nd gens  

I have seen them at ebay, some NOS and some posted with PNs and year application...

[roger440]

my 69  SPD 22nd november 68 was  previously unrestored ,  grill had never been off , had them  metal thingys        

Mine is SPD 2nd September 68 and has them too.

[roger440]

come oooon, suposelly I know a little bit about 3rd gens but not about 2nd gens  

I have seen them at ebay, some NOS and some posted with PNs and year application...

What do you search for them as on Ebay? Not "thingys" i guess. Could do with a set, mine are all rusty.

[Nacho-RT74]

headlight vacuum actuators I guess. Never actually searched, just found by casuality... I'm talking about the actuators not the holding spring THINGY

[roger440]

Ok.

[twodko]

Hey, this thingy thing is taking on a life of its own.

Tom

[lexxman]

Are you sure it's a thingy or could it be a thingamabob?

[twodko]

Salut Dave,

Vous pourriez avoir raison ........ puis de nouveau il pourrait être un machin!

Tom

[b5blue]

Wanna run that by me again? 

[mikepmcs]

I think I have one, I just tripped over it yesterday in my basement. If you need them, I can send you one (1) for sure.  It will be free of course.  Let me verify when I get home and I will let you know.

[twodko]

Hey Neal!

Happy New Year. I was telling brother Dave that it may have been a whatchamacallit instead of a thingy........I had a lot to drink that day.

Thanks anyway Mike. Bull thinks he may have 2.

Tom

Correction: Bill440rt mentioned he mau have a set.

[lexxman]

You may be right Tom.fyi I don't speak french By the way where are you located?

[twodko]

Hey dave,

Pardon my assumption, I love languages. I'm live in the small town of Sebastopol, Northern California 60 or so miles north of San Francisco (thank gawd).

Tom

[b5blue]

Mare see vou coo twodko!   

[twodko]

Neal, vous êtes un homme aux multiples talents!

[Nacho-RT74]

me avisan si desean que hable en castellano

[twodko]

Nacho, 

Espero que no son vascos, yo no quiero problemas!

[b5blue]

Hey Tom! I don't have a clue what ya said but THANKS! 

[Nacho-RT74]

No vale, nada que ver con los vascos jajaja. Aunque mi madre es de Cantabria, Santander, que esta al lado del Pais Vasco

[twodko]

Ignacio,

Sí, lo sé, yo sólo podía pensar en algo ingenioso que decir. ¿No es castellian la lengua nacional de España?

Neal,
My comment was that you are a man of many talents!

Tom

[Ghoste]

In the 69 parts catalog even though it shows the part broken away from that main bracket on the back, it lists both brackets as a single part in the text.  It only describes the assembly as the Headlamp Door Actuator Mounting Bracket, part number 2785 883.  Keep in mind that if you go searching e bay for this part number that the 68 version which only shows the main bracket, not the "thingy" uses the same part number.

[Nacho-RT74]

El castellano es la lengua oficial de todo hispano parlante, lo que sucede es que internacionalmente el castellano es simplemente conocido como español al venir de España, pero es lo mismo.

En España se prefiere decir castellano por las diferentes culturas e idiomas que hay alli ( vascos, catalanes, gallegos.... ) siendo Castilla el reino que se superpuso a los demas reinos al expulsar a los Arabes en 1492 y reconquistar la peninsula, lo que hizo del castellano lengua oficial

[twodko]

Ignacio,,

Thanks for that. I knew castellian was the root spanish language from which all spanish dialects emerged in all spanish speaking countries.
History is the ulimate teacher, too bad people speak without knowledge.
Gracias, Su sido un placer!

Ghoste,

Thank you for that info. Bill is sending me a couple.

Tom