Did ya ever see a Wix filter explode? well...

[RD]

I got this one in at work due to a warranty.  Seems the filter decided it did not like the pressures being placed upon it by the backhoe's hydraulic system.  Something had to go.. and well... it was the filter.  Never have seen a Wix go down this way, the guys hydraulic system is most likely the culprit.  But, in the retail world you do what you have to to make the customer a repeat customer.

[skip68]

That could be a bad thing.   

[tan top]

  that must of been some big Psi  , to do that

[Todd Wilson]

Looks like a piss poor crimp job done by the made in 3rd world country of your choice. Even the mighty Wix is all about profit and not quality anymore. They only want 10 cents cost in an 8$ filter instead of a good quality filter costing 3$ to make and sell for 8$.


Todd

[elacruze]

Nope, that's the system it was installed on. Look at the bulged metal between the gasket and crimp. That dude swelled up like a water balloon before it burst.

You in the frozen North? Looks like a case of ice in the system to me.

[moparguy01]

i second the ice notion. I've seen a few blow up like that, and its usually been because its too darn cold up here.

[Charger RT]

  But, in the retail world you do what you have to to make the customer a repeat customer.

He will totaly trash wix when the replacement does the same thing.

[200MPH]

Stupid Frams do that too!

[Foreman72]

was anyone else expecting an exploded, i mean like...mythbusters style exploded, filter...


i was

[Scaregrabber]

If you put the relief valve in backwards on a BB oil pump you can bulge oil filters pretty good too. DAMHIK.

Sheldon

[dodgecharger-fan]

The filter that came off during the last oil change I had done on my 2000 Intrepid was puffed up like a balloon. Pretty sure it was a MOPAR filter.
That was right before I had to turn it at the end of the lease. I told the guy too and he looked at me funny - like, "No one tells me stuff like that when they're turning in their lease."
But it was a company car and not my tab. Besides they did all of the service so he could have easily found out.

Wish I had a picture of it. It was kinda cool.

[RD]

Nope, that's the system it was installed on. Look at the bulged metal between the gasket and crimp. That dude swelled up like a water balloon before it burst.

You in the frozen North? Looks like a case of ice in the system to me.

it did happen during our 0-10 degree cold spell earlier in december, just now got around to getting the pics up.

[Silver R/T]

It's not cause of bad quality, these filters are still one of the best out there. It was misused, unfortunately things break when they're abused.

[Tilar]

That shouldn't have come apart on any 0 to 10 degree day. Either the filter has an internal bypass that failed or he has a bypass stuck in the filter base.

As far as the water and ice theory, if you look into the filter you'll know right off if there is water in the oil.

[RD]

That shouldn't have come apart on any 0 to 10 degree day. Either the filter has an internal bypass that failed or he has a bypass stuck in the filter base.

As far as the water and ice theory, if you look into the filter you'll know right off if there is water in the oil.

i will let wix figure that one out

[BB1]

Send it back to them, POCrap!

[elacruze]

That shouldn't have come apart on any 0 to 10 degree day. Either the filter has an internal bypass that failed or he has a bypass stuck in the filter base.

As far as the water and ice theory, if you look into the filter you'll know right off if there is water in the oil.

Not necessarily. Many hydraulic system filters are mounted bottom-up, though I don't know about this one.
Usually, water collects in the bight of a hose or a pump relief valve. Water separates from oil and goes to the bottom.

It is possible that it's merely the result of over-revving the pump with extremely cold oil, even without water.
I'll allow the possibility of mismanufacture, but I've never seen that myself with a pressure failure.

Most equipment manufacturers recommend changing hydraulic fluid yearly, too, largely to eliminate water contamination. Almost nobody maintains their systems by the book.

FWIW when you see the guy next, ask how long the equipment was unused before the incident, and when it was flushed last. 

In any case, it's an impressive failure.

[66chargerkid]

I got this one in at work due to a warranty.  Seems the filter decided it did not like the pressures being placed upon it by the backhoe's hydraulic system.  Something had to go.. and well... it was the filter.  Never have seen a Wix go down this way, the guys hydraulic system is most likely the culprit.  But, in the retail world you do what you have to to make the customer a repeat customer.

Werent you telling me a couple days ago to put a WIX filter on my Daytona   

[RD]

I got this one in at work due to a warranty.  Seems the filter decided it did not like the pressures being placed upon it by the backhoe's hydraulic system.  Something had to go.. and well... it was the filter.  Never have seen a Wix go down this way, the guys hydraulic system is most likely the culprit.  But, in the retail world you do what you have to to make the customer a repeat customer.

Werent you telling me a couple days ago to put a WIX filter on my Daytona   

it is not the filter that is/was the problem.  it was the guy's hydraulic system.  Wix brand filters are awesome, second to none in my book.  If ya dont believe me... do some research.

[Silver R/T]

I got this one in at work due to a warranty.  Seems the filter decided it did not like the pressures being placed upon it by the backhoe's hydraulic system.  Something had to go.. and well... it was the filter.  Never have seen a Wix go down this way, the guys hydraulic system is most likely the culprit.  But, in the retail world you do what you have to to make the customer a repeat customer.

Werent you telling me a couple days ago to put a WIX filter on my Daytona   

it is not the filter that is/was the problem.  it was the guy's hydraulic system.  Wix brand filters are awesome, second to none in my book.  If ya dont believe me... do some research.

x2, abuse is what made that filter do what it did.

[resq302]

My neighbor had that happen to his tractor last year.  Said he found an article on line that says that when the weather gets colder, you have to adjust the pressure by pass for the oil / hydraulic system.  His filter did the same thing.  He went through two of them before he realized there was a bulliten on it.

[Tilar]

That shouldn't have come apart on any 0 to 10 degree day. Either the filter has an internal bypass that failed or he has a bypass stuck in the filter base.

As far as the water and ice theory, if you look into the filter you'll know right off if there is water in the oil.

Not necessarily. Many hydraulic system filters are mounted bottom-up, though I don't know about this one.
Usually, water collects in the bight of a hose or a pump relief valve. Water separates from oil and goes to the bottom.

It is possible that it's merely the result of over-revving the pump with extremely cold oil, even without water.
I'll allow the possibility of mismanufacture, but I've never seen that myself with a pressure failure.

Most equipment manufacturers recommend changing hydraulic fluid yearly, too, largely to eliminate water contamination. Almost nobody maintains their systems by the book.

FWIW when you see the guy next, ask how long the equipment was unused before the incident, and when it was flushed last. 

In any case, it's an impressive failure.

If the filter is mounted bottom up it should by design have a relief in the filter head. I thought about overrevving in cold weather but again in that situation it should have gone over the filter bypass or maybe he is running too heavy of an oil for the climate he is in or someone added heavier oil to try to compensate for a weak pump...

Another thing is if he just replaced the filter head and mounted it backwards inline, which instead of going into relief it would deadhead. I've seen people do that a few times over the last 30 years and it's a crap shoot wether it takes out the filter head or the filter. For some reason some people don't understand what that big arrow is on top of the head.

I agree, it's either operator or machine failure.