I'm sure this will get locked but here goes...

[bull]

It sure seems that the punishment never fits the crime. Look at Pee Wee Herman who got caught wacking off & lost his career.

What career?

killing them just makes easy way for them. If they spend rest of life in prison then they'll understand...

They need to understand before they murder. Most of these freaks have got a very bad case of narcissistic personality disorder and don't understand anything beyond temporarily satisfying their sadistic lust for ultimate control over the weak. They need to be exterminated.

[CFMopar]

We have a guy up here who was sentenced for life for the rape and murder of his niece. 20 years latter his case has been reopened due to dna evidence he is free on bail and more than likely will be released. Luckly we dont have the death penalty because if this was in the US in texas or something he would be dead by now instead of just loosing 20 years of his life.

Justice system makes mistakes too and by taking someones life you dont give yourself the option to ever correct those mistakes.

[gunner22]

i do agree with bull i am lookin up the number of murders in wa right now

[hemihead]

I agree with the Death Penalty.All the bleeding heart liberals can think of is the "poor misunderstood criminalwho " had a bad childhood".
Until someone they know or love becomes a victim then they change sides.

[Blown70]

Well first and foremost we are not taliking about eveyone sentenced to death. NO EVERYONE ON DEATH ROE IS INNOCENT.  To me if the evidence is over whelming or the person is a true serical rapist or serial killer.  Then what is the hold up?

Could there be a few innocents yes.  However a lot of these people are not.  What maybe .01 percent?  I am sorry eye for an eye.  I grew up with religion but NO ONE has the right to take anothers life and be allowed to live in society.  And at the cost of housing them on death row.... Should not be our expense.

Golden rule do on to others as you want done on to you.  You wanna rape, murder, molest.  Have the same done to you....

Dennis Rader (BTK) admitted to what he did.....

No need to keep him around?  If someone thinks so explain to me why?  What good will he ever provide for society?

[71bee]

There's a local story about a freak named Mark Hacking who murdered his wife last year, hacked her up into little pieces and disposed of her body parts in a local University Hospital dumpster. after confessing to the murder, alot of local folks, incl. police and volunteers (about 1,00 of them) continuously searched the Salt Lake land fill in 95+ degree dry heat for about a month before finding the pieces of her corpse..... now they say he could be a free man in about a couple of years. and we wonder why our society is crumbling around us? why our children are joining up with gangs? I tell yah, I've lived in Utah my whole life, and every year the crime rate grows higher. now if we had public executions like in the "way back" days, do you think that the murders would be as popular as they are today?

[General_01]

Could there be a few innocents yes.   However a lot of these people are not.   What maybe .01 percent?   I am sorry eye for an eye.   I grew up with religion but NO ONE has the right to take anothers life and be allowed to live in society.   And at the cost of housing them on death row.... Should not be our expense.

Expain your contradiction in the above statement please. If NO ONE has a right to take another life, then how can you support the death penalty? Not trying to start an argument. I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt. I just wanted you to understand that if you are going to use that as your reason, you are contradicting yourself.

[dkn1997]

I believe I've heard this somewhere before; "If you're not willing to do the time, don't do the crime."

Isn't it ironic that the guy who starred in the TV show with those words in the theme actually got away with killing his wife?

[Blown70]

Could there be a few innocents yes.   However a lot of these people are not.   What maybe .01 percent?   I am sorry eye for an eye.   I grew up with religion but NO ONE has the right to take anothers life and be allowed to live in society.   And at the cost of housing them on death row.... Should not be our expense.

Expain your contradiction in the above statement please. If NO ONE has a right to take another life, then how can you support the death penalty? Not trying to start an argument. I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt. I just wanted you to understand that if you are going to use that as your reason, you are contradicting yourself.

Ahhh you see that is NOT a contradiction.   THE FACT IS A MURDERER made a choice, the laws then do you make a contradiction.   You are a murder then is falls upon society and not the courts and/or judges, as indviduals.   At least that is the way I see it.   TRUST me takes a bit more to piss me off...

I Had a feeling someone was going to trying to say that was a contradiction.   

ALSO, I should have stated another person does not have the right to take the life of an INNOCENT person. 

[Charger_Fan]

I agree that the system is flawed, no system can be perect. I also feel bad for those who are wrongly accused, who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
However...

There's a local story about a freak named Mark Hacking who murdered his wife last year, hacked her up into little pieces and disposed of her body parts in a local University Hospital dumpster. after confessing to the murder, alot of local folks, incl. police and volunteers (about 1,00 of them) continuously searched the Salt Lake land fill in 95+ degree dry heat for about a month before finding the pieces of her corpse..... now they say he could be a free man in about a couple of years.

...cases like this one (and thousands of others), where we know damned good & well that the right person is locked up in jail, there is absolutely no reason to keep someone like this alive even one more day...while the rest of us support him.
Oh sure, now he's remorseful & feels all bad about chopping up his pregnant wife...TOO FRIGGIN' BAD, A$$HOLE!   
After they positively identified the body as hers, he should have been dead the very next day...cut & dried, end of story.

This is just yet another case where potential murderers are seeing that they'll only get a slap on the hand if they go kill someone.

[Blown70]

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...cases like this one (and thousands of others), where we know damned good & well that the right person is locked up in jail, there is absolutely no reason to keep someone like this alive even one more day...while the rest of us support him.
Oh sure, now he's remorseful & feels all bad about chopping up his pregnant wife...TOO FRIGGIN' BAD, A$$HOLE!   
After they positively identified the body as hers, he should have been dead the very next day...cut & dried, end of story.

This is just yet another case where potential murderers are seeing that they'll only get a slap on the hand if they go kill someone.

I AGREE,  This is what I was trying to say.. When it is cut and dry..... Hang em' High   I am a poet and did not know it.

[CFMopar]

I agree with the Death Penalty.All the bleeding heart liberals can think of is the "poor misunderstood criminalwho " had a bad childhood".
Until someone they know or love becomes a victim then they change sides.

I'm far from a bleeding heart liberal (voting conservative in the next election up here ellllo....) and I personally dont give a shit about a criminals childhood. Read my previous post about the man convicted of rape and murder of his niece. THIS MAN WOULD BE DEAD if we had a death penatly. 20 years of his life are gone before they found evicdence to prove he didnt do it. 1 Mistake with the death penalty is 1 to many.

Someone mentioned bleeding heart liberals will only understand when they become a victom (like liberals are NEVER victims) Well if you want to play that game then republicans will only understand when they are flasly imprisioned.

[Steve P.]

tHE FACT IS IF WE dON'T MAKE THE PUN---((damn caps lock), ishment fit the crime and make it MORE of a deterrent, than we will just keep filling jails and law schools.. I liked it much better when we left our keys in the car and our houses open..    Now it seems like everyone is postal!!!

[Lowprofile]

So let me ask you this. Suppose a serial killer murdered your wife and kids? What would you want to happen to the perp? Give him life with the possibility of parole?

I Would just kill him/her/them Myself.

Actually, I think the Military style Prison is the way to go.  Hard Labor for the rest of their life's. Give them a sledgehammer and let them make big rocks into little rocks.  No TV, Computers, Visitors....Nothing.

[Spartan]

I think capital punishment can be  huge deterent for crime if used consistantly for death row guys.  How many are on death row and how many have actually been exicuted?  I very small percentage, it is not much of a deterent in its current state.  Michigan does not have the death penalty.  I was assulted at gun point, my roomate was shot and a week later, the same dirtbag killed a kid.  He got a few life sentences for his work.  About a year ago he escaped from prison (of all places, 20 miles from my house) and went on a robbery string again....I have a wife and 2 kids now and I was worried about them with him out.  A dirt bag like that cannot be reformed, won't change, and will be a parisite on society.  If we had the death penalty, I would have asked for it.

[derailed]

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Actually, I think the Military style Prison is the way to go.   Hard Labor for the rest of their life's. Give them a sledgehammer and let them make big rocks into little rocks.   No TV, Computers, Visitors....Nothing.

[bull]

Actually, I think the Military style Prison is the way to go.   Hard Labor for the rest of their life's. Give them a sledgehammer and let them make big rocks into little rocks.   No TV, Computers, Visitors....Nothing.

I'd go for that too if they'd actually do it. But you know they never will.

[CFMopar]

Actually, I think the Military style Prison is the way to go.  Hard Labor for the rest of their life's. Give them a sledgehammer and let them make big rocks into little rocks.  No TV, Computers, Visitors....Nothing.

Now that I can agree on. Regardless if they can be rehabilitated or not put them to work and get some free labour out of them. Better than paying some contractor 20-40 dollars an hour to smash some rock or pick up garbage.

[Steve P.]

I am growing tired of hearing about the (HUMANE) thing to do... ACID in their eyes. just enough voltage to their nuts to fry them but keep them awake to make sure they feel every bit of the pain. Slice their goods off a 1/4 inch at a time, again keeping them awake to make sure they know what's going on.

Ok, now let's step up to the people that do REALLLLY bad things!!

[71bee]

  I'm with you, brother!

[psykicpup]

Sorry for the rant, I just think things are way out of whack in this country when it comes to chrime and punishment.

I'm totally with ya, brother!

I think our justice system IS way too lenient especially in regards to murderer & sex crimes. I think the punishment sould be so horrific that it anyone contemplating these acts would be scared shitless of the results.  

but then would it be better to hang fot a sheep than a lamb??

[psykicpup]

I agree with the death penalty, but if we really want it to be a deterrant to murder the executions should be televised. Let people see what it's like to die in the electric chair, and maybe it will actually deter someone from committing murder. I also don't believe in death by lethal injection, we should go back to the electric chair. I don't believe that Boyd, or John Wayne Gacy, or any of the others get what they truly deserve when they die by injection. John Wayne Gacy did not deserve to peacefully lie down and go to sleep. They really should feel the same kind of fear that their victims experienced, then we can say that they got what they deserved.

ehy on earth do you think they were not scared........if you kmow you are going to die does it matter how ...lets face it its going to be humane unlike what they did ( at least some)

[psykicpup]

How about a large warehouse with oversized kennel cages stacked to the ceiling. You know, the heavy wire mesh kind without floors & ceilings in them. The hardest of criminals who have committed the worst offenses get to stay locked in the bottom cages. No bathrooms, just go in the cage & let the crap go to the bottom row where it is already. No more cable TV & video games, just rewards of toilet paper & rain coats if they stay quiet long enough.

Im right with you there

[psykicpup]

I am growing tired of hearing about the (HUMANE) thing to do... ACID in their eyes. just enough voltage to their nuts to fry them but keep them awake to make sure they feel every bit of the pain. Slice their goods off a 1/4 inch at a time, again keeping them awake to make sure they know what's going on.

Ok, now let's step up to the people that do REALLLLY bad things!!

walnut super glue'd to the 'eye' of a rapist (PS he cant even take a pee- eventually his bladder will burst)

[hemihead]

All this is good in my opinion but there is one way there would be a problem.When a rich and powerful person or relative commits a crime.
Then we all know that all  goes out the window.Look at it now, the wealthy have their  own country club prison in West Virginia.