Asking crazy cash for NOS Charger stuff

[bull]

This guy is a little crazy with the NOS prices IMO. No offense if you're a member here but cripes! I guess it wouldn't be so bad if most of the stuff wasn't being reproduced for way less money...

http://stores.ebay.com/THE-FLR__W0QQ_sidZ69940501?_nkw=charger

74 Charger gas cap - $100
Charger turn signal lever - $150
8 track radio bezel - $500
67 Charger wiring harness - $900
68 Charger heater controls - $1,000
67 Charger 440 carb - $1,500

[motorcitydak]

I agree, but stuff like that is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. If the guy can sell a carb for $1,500, Id bet the guy who buys it considers himself lucky and has perfect resto project

[bull]

I agree, but stuff like that is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. If the guy can sell a carb for $1,500, Id bet the guy who buys it considers himself lucky and has perfect resto project

Yup. Definitely a niche target market.

[G-man]

I paid 1192 AU dollars (was around 850 US) for 2 NOS B-body mirrors.


Yes reproduction mirrors I also got for 200 bucks BUT....

Reproduction stuff is never built like NOS stuff. You see the mirror when you look at it side on, the 45 degree angle thing that comes towards the back mould of the mirror... isnt actualy sharp or 45 degree on the repros, its just a round mould while the originals have those 2 defines lines and a defined 45 degree angle on it which looks tons better. I saw someone on here do some huge restoration (think it was a custom green charger on here recently) soon I saw the mirrors i was like "AS if you would buy that garbage on that car" its SO obvious, they have no detail and look like crap compare to the real thing, definately NOT what you put on a restored vehicle, it makes it look cheap.

Besides since Ive got Allens Car which is all original sheet metal including trunk floor and floor pans without rust (which is quite rare to find for any price a car like that) Id be stupid NOT to stick a set of original mirrors on it also.

I guess it all depends which part... the mirrors are part of the exterior look and if thats the only part NOS to keep the car looking perfect then yeah...

guess it all depends which part... repro or NOS grill... again I pick NOS as thats the 'look' of the vehicle, but NOS buttons or bolts or whatever which all the same thing... then I would option the cheaper option, reproduction.

Heres a picture of the mirror thing im talking about being 45 degree and defined while repros are just rounded and no angle at all which just looks dumb and cheap.

Also 1 thing I do not like is the fact that I didnt know this when I baught my repro set of mirrors... wouldnt of even known then until I saw ChargerDownUnders charger at his place and noticed the mirrors were different... then I realised they were NOT the same thing (so its his fault im out of $1192.60  ) They should on reproduction parts SPECIFY what actually looks different from the real thing... when I spoke to BEA parts about the mirrors being different they asked "what part?" like... you make mirrors, u sell mopar stuff, u live in the states, u dont know??? Sheesh!

[R2]

Im with you Bull, i think it is excessive,,,,regardless of NOS,,,

[Back N Black]

I paid 1192 AU dollars (was around 850 US) for 2 NOS B-body mirrors.


Yes reproduction mirrors I also got for 200 bucks BUT....

Reproduction stuff is never built like NOS stuff. You see the mirror when you look at it side on, the 45 degree angle thing that comes towards the back mould of the mirror... isnt actualy sharp or 45 degree on the repros, its just a round mould while the originals have those 2 defines lines and a defined 45 degree angle on it which looks tons better. I saw someone on here do some huge restoration (think it was a custom green charger on here recently) soon I saw the mirrors i was like "AS if you would buy that garbage on that car" its SO obvious, they have no detail and look like crap compare to the real thing, definately NOT what you put on a restored vehicle, it makes it look cheap.

Besides since Ive got Allens Car which is all original sheet metal including trunk floor and floor pans without rust (which is quite rare to find for any price a car like that) Id be stupid NOT to stick a set of original mirrors on it also.

I guess it all depends which part... the mirrors are part of the exterior look and if thats the only part NOS to keep the car looking perfect then yeah...

guess it all depends which part... repro or NOS grill... again I pick NOS as thats the 'look' of the vehicle, but NOS buttons or bolts or whatever which all the same thing... then I would option the cheaper option, reproduction.

Heres a picture of the mirror thing im talking about being 45 degree and defined while repros are just rounded and no angle at all which just looks dumb and cheap.

Also 1 thing I do not like is the fact that I didnt know this when I baught my repro set of mirrors... wouldnt of even known then until I saw ChargerDownUnders charger at his place and noticed the mirrors were different... then I realised they were NOT the same thing (so its his fault im out of $1192.60  ) They should on reproduction parts SPECIFY what actually looks different from the real thing... when I spoke to BEA parts about the mirrors being different they asked "what part?" like... you make mirrors, u sell mopar stuff, u live in the states, u dont know??? Sheesh!

It would be hard for me to justify paying that much for a set of mirrors.   

[1969chargerrtse]

A while back I posted a thread on ebay for a 500.00 headlamp switch for a 69 and several people here thought it was o.k because it was a rare part? I've seen several since for much less.  Yes, crazy.

[Cooter]

Well, keep in mind that Most, not ALL NOS parts were take off's from the dealer. Yes, they are New, but sometimes they are off a new car that got a warranty replacement and what you are buying as NOS NEVER installed was actually a warranty replacement part, which was put back into the original's box...


I've found this to be the case with almost all Electrical parts that are "NOS".....If dude can get $1500.00 for a carb, I say don't blame HIM, blame the idiot that PAID that cause in the end, HE/SHE is the one that allowed him to Reallize that SOMEONE WILL buy at this rediculous price...

Don't hate the playa, hate the game...It gets back to the golden rule: "Ye with the gold ALWAYS rules....

[G-man]

I paid 1192 AU dollars (was around 850 US) for 2 NOS B-body mirrors.


Yes reproduction mirrors I also got for 200 bucks BUT....

Reproduction stuff is never built like NOS stuff. You see the mirror when you look at it side on, the 45 degree angle thing that comes towards the back mould of the mirror... isnt actualy sharp or 45 degree on the repros, its just a round mould while the originals have those 2 defines lines and a defined 45 degree angle on it which looks tons better. I saw someone on here do some huge restoration (think it was a custom green charger on here recently) soon I saw the mirrors i was like "AS if you would buy that garbage on that car" its SO obvious, they have no detail and look like crap compare to the real thing, definately NOT what you put on a restored vehicle, it makes it look cheap.

Besides since Ive got Allens Car which is all original sheet metal including trunk floor and floor pans without rust (which is quite rare to find for any price a car like that) Id be stupid NOT to stick a set of original mirrors on it also.

I guess it all depends which part... the mirrors are part of the exterior look and if thats the only part NOS to keep the car looking perfect then yeah...

guess it all depends which part... repro or NOS grill... again I pick NOS as thats the 'look' of the vehicle, but NOS buttons or bolts or whatever which all the same thing... then I would option the cheaper option, reproduction.

Heres a picture of the mirror thing im talking about being 45 degree and defined while repros are just rounded and no angle at all which just looks dumb and cheap.

Also 1 thing I do not like is the fact that I didnt know this when I baught my repro set of mirrors... wouldnt of even known then until I saw ChargerDownUnders charger at his place and noticed the mirrors were different... then I realised they were NOT the same thing (so its his fault im out of $1192.60  ) They should on reproduction parts SPECIFY what actually looks different from the real thing... when I spoke to BEA parts about the mirrors being different they asked "what part?" like... you make mirrors, u sell mopar stuff, u live in the states, u dont know??? Sheesh!

It would be hard for me to justify paying that much for a set of mirrors.   

I wish they were cheaper but there not and to get that sweet sharp line... its either pay or dont get it... considering its the ONLY NOS part i will ever buy... and the car was around 20k... with mirrors 21k... from that perspective, its not much at all considering the car is probbably worth more than that anyway. Thats only way I could justify it "Car cost 20 rather than 19 and came with those 2 mirrors"

Now its justified for me... but i wont be needing anything else in NOS thankfully. 

[Troy]

Some of those parts may be the only ones left (or at least one of a very few). If the parts were sold at (what some would consider) reasonable prices then there'd be no NOS stuff left for people who really need it (ie super rare, high dollar, perfect restorations). The seller isn't marketing to the majority of people - they're hoping to catch just 1 person who needs a particular part (or multiple parts).

As usual, if you don't like the price don't buy it. If the seller can't sell it they'll either lower their price or be stuck with it forever. Parts and cars (like everything else) are worth what someone is willing to pay. Some people are willing to pay more.

Troy

[68charger383]

 , most of the NOS stuff, unless your restoring a $100K car or the $1,500 carb is a unique part/option to that car, then it seems like a waste of money.

$295 for a 68 NOS Charger grille emblem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Dodge-Charger-R-T-NOS-MoPar-Headlamp-Door-EMBLEM_W0QQitemZ360172356454QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item53dbf20366

$150 for a 68 NOS rear arrow emblem-no box
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/68-Dodge-Charger-NOS-MoPar-Tail-Panel-ARROW-EMBLEM_W0QQitemZ140176094149QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item20a32573c5

[ITSA426]

A lot of the stuff that is being sold as NOS were actually rejects from the assembly line.  Not good enough to install but not bad enough to scrap.  They went back to the vendor and were stored and shipped later as new replacement parts or even slated for scrap.  Some of it was retrieved from dumpsters.  That's what I remember from the manufacturing we did for the industry back in the '60's with trim pieces, emblems, etc.

I don't know if a carb would be like that, but I don't think a 40 year old carb would just bolt on and go either.

Of course a lot of sellers don't have the same idea of NOS as others.  Some think NOS somehow means an original not too badly used part.  A lot of stuff is available in reproduction or remanufactured that is just as good.  Some not so much.

[Belgium R/T -68]

I don't know which green car you refer to but from my side I don't buy NOS stuff if the complete car isn't going to be 100% factory
look. What's the use of having NOS mirrors if the valvecovers are from 440source?

Per

[charger_fan_4ever]

Saw a 70 passengers NOS fender sell on ebag for $900 a lil while ago. Looked pretty straight. My brother took him like 2 years to sell a 68 nos tailpanel for $650.

I dunno how these guys are selling what I'd call odds and ends for that kind of item.

The more repro parts the better. I'm glad they are repoping the plastic consoles. You can now get a new repro for less than a used one, nevermind the NOS ones.

[Mike DC]

$150 for a N.O.S. "Charger turn signal lever"?  Good luck with that one.  I don't know of a Charger-specific turn signal lever and a generic B-body lever isn't worth much.

 

[tan top]

$150 for a N.O.S. "Charger turn signal lever"?  Good luck with that one.  I don't know of a Charger-specific turn signal lever and a generic B-body lever isn't worth much.

 

  150 for a turn signal leaver  , had a NOS  one for mine in the factory packaging  , for 18 years  , think it only cost me  $20  , might of been less    , should of never used it & put a repop or a good used one back on the charger  & ebayed  the NOS one

[G-man]

What's the use of having NOS mirrors if the valvecovers are from 440source?

Per

The point of a NOS mirror is because thats the exterior 'look' of the vehicle. Either it will look cheap with rounded mirrors or nice and defined with a NOS mirror.

All the other stuff im going aftermarket/performance alloy components... the point to me was the exterior look to look just right... and even with a fully customized charger one day with things incorect such as a 70 rear tailight in place of the 68 tailight on a 68 charger... it needs to 'look right' (meaning when u see it from the back u should think its a 70 because it looks correct) and Reproduction mirrors do not look right and they look cheap. Thats the point of the NOS mirrors.

Maybe others are not as fussy as me when it comes to detail but I am. Imagine, 3000 on a dana 60 from dr diff, 20 000 on a hemi, 2000 on a carb setup, 5000 in chroming the engine bay, 3000 on real leather interior, 5000 on a custom dash with autometer-custom gauges made with your own design, 5000 on wheels and tires + minitub, 1000 on shocks, 5000 on suspension upgrades (maybe more depending what u do) 6000-10 000 on a 6 speed gearbox and to then have a 200 dollar pair of mirrors that look cheap on your newly built pro-street car... I Dont Thinkso. When you compare 1000 to all of that stuff, the mirrors were still the cheapest thing baught and yet make a huge difference to overall look of vehicle and make it look right. To me the rounded mirror (repro mirror) was a thorn in the eye how bad it looked.

[69bronzeT5]

NOS is just stupid to me.....I'd rather spend money on other parts than spending $500 for say a gauge cluster cover.

[68r/t]

What's the use of having NOS mirrors if the valvecovers are from 440source?

Per

The point of a NOS mirror is because thats the exterior 'look' of the vehicle. Either it will look cheap with rounded mirrors or nice and defined with a NOS mirror.

All the other stuff im going aftermarket/performance alloy components... the point to me was the exterior look to look just right... and even with a fully customized charger one day with things incorect such as a 70 rear tailight in place of the 68 tailight on a 68 charger... it needs to 'look right' (meaning when u see it from the back u should think its a 70 because it looks correct) and Reproduction mirrors do not look right and they look cheap. Thats the point of the NOS mirrors.

Maybe others are not as fussy as me when it comes to detail but I am. Imagine, 3000 on a dana 60 from dr diff, 20 000 on a hemi, 2000 on a carb setup, 5000 in chroming the engine bay, 3000 on real leather interior, 5000 on a custom dash with autometer-custom gauges made with your own design, 5000 on wheels and tires + minitub, 1000 on shocks, 5000 on suspension upgrades (maybe more depending what u do) 6000-10 000 on a 6 speed gearbox and to then have a 200 dollar pair of mirrors that look cheap on your newly built pro-street car... I Dont Thinkso. When you compare 1000 to all of that stuff, the mirrors were still the cheapest thing baught and yet make a huge difference to overall look of vehicle and make it look right. To me the rounded mirror (repro mirror) was a thorn in the eye how bad it looked.

All that hotrod stuff but you have to have nos mirrors,   I think you have a mirror "fetish" and need some conselling

[hemigeno]

Welcome to the wonderful world of Great Lakes NOS Mopar (that's the eBay seller in question).  I have bought several parts from them and will yet need more stuff for my Daytona's restoration.  NONE of what I've bought from them would be considered cheap.  If I was just looking for cheap, I'd be shopping from any of the reproduction vendors and not from G.L.NOS - but to find correct NOS parts in decent shape is a very difficult task at times.  There is often a difference between NOS and assembly-line-correct parts too, and quite often Great Lakes is one of the few sources that not only knows the difference between the two -- but might have what you're looking for.

Per has it right in what he said:

I don't know which green car you refer to but from my side I don't buy NOS stuff if the complete car isn't going to be 100% factory
look. What's the use of having NOS mirrors if the valvecovers are from 440source?

A long time back I decided to chase as many NOS parts as possible for my particular restoration effort, and once you get to a certain point if you don't continue in that vein you've essentially wasted the early efforts - since as Per stated, having just a few NOS parts doesn't honestly make a difference, although if G-man finds and buys the mirrors for his car that he wants, that's great.  There are still some things that I have not been able to find new or good used, and for those instances I have no problem using repro parts on my car.  No sense in holding my breath thinking I'll find an NOS Daytona headliner, after all.

Like Troy said, most of the NOS parts sellers are not targeting every buyer.  Their targeted customer pool is rather small but still present, and it only takes one person willing to pay their asking price.  Trust me, they all know what repro parts are available and at what price... but true comparison is impossible since it's an "apples and oranges" thing.

Think of it in terms of fine wine... I'm not a wine connoisseur, but I'm sure that there are brands and vintages of wines which have a sky-high value compared to what you can get at the grocery store.  For those who understand and appreciate the nuances of NOS (especially assembly-line version) parts, the value is also intrinsic rather than functional and is usually worth the additional cost.

[1969chargerrtse]

G-man I respect your thoughts about the mirrors but don't agree the price you paid was worth it. I have the repros on my car and never noticed the rounded edge verses the angled edge?  I have seen 100's of 68-70 Chargers and never thought about it. It's obiviously something important to you, but my rounded ( I need to check them ) ones do me fine for what I paid. A smart thing to do would to be buying up the used ones and rechroming them.  If the mirrors are that important to you, I'm sure your car is stunning. Problem today is most people don't know the difference so it's hard to get your money back if you get deep into it like the 45k I have in mine. Good news is, I don't care.

[G-man]

Well thats the whole thing... to me it is a thorn in the eye and I cant stand the round edge.

Considering I got the car for 19k... add mirrors (1k), lets just say car cost 20k I never baught mirrors they came with the car (so to speak)... the car is still probbably worth more than 20k so im still on good with those mirrors... maybe thats why it worked out good for me to get them. + I sold my charger for the price of everything I paid (mirrors, seat belts, front end kit etc, every cent I put in i sold it for that same price) and yet I kept the mirrors for my new one and the repros go with the sold one.. so from that point its kinda like i got the mirrors for free.

[1969chargerrtse]

Well thats the whole thing... to me it is a thorn in the eye and I cant stand the round edge.

Considering I got the car for 19k... add mirrors (1k), lets just say car cost 20k I never baught mirrors they came with the car (so to speak)... the car is still probbably worth more than 20k so im still on good with those mirrors... maybe thats why it worked out good for me to get them. + I sold my charger for the price of everything I paid (mirrors, seat belts, front end kit etc, every cent I put in i sold it for that same price) and yet I kept the mirrors for my new one and the repros go with the sold one.. so from that point its kinda like i got the mirrors for free.

  Oh yeah, that works. 

[bull]

I can see some of the stuff getting top dollar; the stuff that is not being reproduced or being reproduced incorrectly. But the items I thought were silly were things like the 8-track bezel for $500 ($89 at BE&A with Pentastar and part no.), fuel cap trim ring for $750 ($39 at BE&A with Pentastar and part no.), and of all things a rubber windshield gasket for $500?! ($65 at Megaparts). Would you pay $500 for a 40-year-old piece of rubber?

BTW, can someone explain this to me: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-NOS-1968-69-ROAD-RUNNER-CHARGER-GREEN-RADIO-BEZEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2ea9bddb8bQQitemZ200416287627QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[jeryst]

There's a guy asking $2k for a NOS 1970 Cuda trunk mat.

I suppose if you had a 70 HemiCuda convertible...