About That '77....

[Lizey]

what would it take, say I dont find a decent trade for the motor (read one of my other two posts) and i put it in the '77...i have to replace the whole front suspension anyway would it be possible to slap a suspension out of a '71? Then the mounts would fit for the motor and everything maybe im just daydreaming but is it possible???

[Hemidoug]

No....
You could put a 440 in it though....
I just happen to have an extra 440......

[Lizey]

what would it take to get that Hemi in there?
as much as I want to get something else id love to Hemi the SE

[Steelshanks]

what would it take to get that Hemi in there?
as much as I want to get something else id love to Hemi the SE

I don't know whats out there for a 77 but If you are adding another 150HP or more then you better find a welder to install torque boxes and a set of subframe connectors (unless it has them already). I know my 66 charger needs both torque boxes and the sub frame connectors.

Basically if you double your horse power without beefing up the frame then your car will fold up on you. I'd wager you would want some of the fender braces also. I'm not sure about the engine mount or the K-Frame which would work for you though...

You will probably need to consider a new tranny also. Not sure what you have in it now

[Lizey]

what would it take to get that Hemi in there?
as much as I want to get something else id love to Hemi the SE

I don't know whats out there for a 77 but If you are adding another 150HP or more then you better find a welder to install torque boxes and a set of subframe connectors (unless it has them already). I know my 66 charger needs both torque boxes and the sub frame connectors.

Basically if you double your horse power without beefing up the frame then your car will fold up on you. I'd wager you would want some of the fender braces also. I'm not sure about the engine mount or the K-Frame which would work for you though...

You will probably need to consider a new tranny also. Not sure what you have in it now

A727 Torqueflight

[Steelshanks]

So if you got the tranny then you just need to beef up your cars frame / body and make sure it'll fit in the engine compartment.  Stronger Drive line, new u joints. better differential. I know some cars don't have room if they have a power brake booster and a few other doodads.

I dunno about trading it or selling it though... seems kinda bad since its a gift they can Very easily sell themselves but are giving it to you for a car instead.

[Hemidoug]

You have a lot of things to consider in order to drop a hemi in there....weight of it is one, exhaust another....don't forget brake booster........will it clear the hood? Hope you know how to tune..took me a while. Hemi's require a special touch. Wide valve covers are cool....but they cost just a ton to keep running.....Trust me...and I'll bet someone will back me up on this, but you would be much better off dropping a 440 in that thing.

[squeakfinder]

  
Body twist will happen with a well built 440. I second the subframe connector idea.

[Hemidoug]

 
Body twist will happen with a well built 440. I second the subframe connector idea.

Subframes connectors wouldn't be much help at all...the K frame is isolated from the front subframe by rubber bushings.....

[Lizey]

so what all do I have to do to re-enforce the frame??

[Steelshanks]

so what all do I have to do to re-enforce the frame??

Torque Boxes
Subframe Connector (? dunno much about 77)
Fender Braces

All have to be welded on except the fender braces I believe. That subframe connector I linked is for older cars, it won't work on yours.

And just dont forget the new driveline / ujoints / probably a yoke or a whole new differential. Your old drive line will most likely not fit with the different tranny and if it did you would destroy it with all the HP anyhow.

[Ghoste]

And since you could still get a 400 in that generation of B-body, that will also make a swap to a big block wedge easier.  Don't mistake that as "easy", just "easier". 

[Cooter]

I don't know but I spect I'd be trying to get my hands ON THAT HEMI before I thought of trying to put in a '77 Charger....Just a thought...

The money it's gonna take you to get that engine in THAT car will out wiegh the "WOW" factor IMO....
To me, owning a HEMI car has it's definate advantages, but it also has it's drawbacks...
I'd much rather be outrun in Wedge BY a HEMI than to be outrun in a HEMI BY a wedge....

[dads_69]

The modifications will be endless. If you've never modified anything at all before. You'll need help beyond your pocket book I'm estimating. Not trying to rain on your parade here, but that's what I'm seeing here. Cool idea, but like you said, sounds more like a daydream to me.

[RD]

 
Body twist will happen with a well built 440. I second the subframe connector idea.

Subframes connectors wouldn't be much help at all...the K frame is isolated from the front subframe by rubber bushings.....

She can buy solid spacers and negate the rubber bushing issue.  I bought a set from a guy on moparts.com

I think putting a hemi into a 77 is not as difficult as we are all making it out to be.  Only issues she will have is motor mounts.  the 77 bay is the same as a 73/74 charger i believe.

the hemi does not put out that much fricken horsepower to warrant torque boxes and subframe connectors. she is not going to make it a heads up drag racing car, just a cruiser.

I don't know whats out there for a 77 but If you are adding another 150HP or more then you better find a welder to install torque boxes and a set of subframe connectors (unless it has them already). I know my 66 charger needs both torque boxes and the sub frame connectors.

Basically if you double your horse power without beefing up the frame then your car will fold up on you. I'd wager you would want some of the fender braces also. I'm not sure about the engine mount or the K-Frame which would work for you though...

You will probably need to consider a new tranny also. Not sure what you have in it now

sorry, but most of what you said is more conjecture and nice upgrades than actual "needs".  a stock hemi engine is not that powerful to warrant all those upgrades.  the car is basically a re-skinned 73/74 charger.

you may want to update rear leafs and a new rear end to handle the hp, but if you have a 9 1/4" rearend in there now, it will be fine.  a suregrip would be nice too.

if you want to do it.. it can be done and it is not that difficult.  smaller brake boosters are available and will be a direct fit (just look up 71 charger w/ front disc brakes for a hemi, and buy that one).  good luck lizey, this would be a exciting build if you choose to do it.  its not like the hemi will have to stay in there forever either, if you find another car you can always do another swap with it.

i do not see it as a daydream but as an actual reality.

[rt green]

if you get the hemi, get a different body. trust me on this one

[RD]

if you get the hemi, get a different body. trust me on this one

sorry mate, i know i have taken up somewhat a defense on her part.. but trust you why?  if you have first hand experience, then dont you think you should explain your reasoning?

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here is what i found.. wow look at all that room!!!    come on guys, this engine can go in there.  I imagine most are just irked that she wants to put it in this car instead of their own.

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/featuredvehicles/b_body/1977_dodge_charger_daytona/photo_06.html

[Ghoste]

I think "she" is a "he" but I agree with you on the room.  It's still not going to be a drop in swap in my opinion.  But let us not forget the many many vehicles that found Hemis between their fenders back in the day.  All those Willy's coupes and what have you never had Hemi K-frames or suspensions designed with that load in mind.
But it'll be an undertaking.

[G-man]

Im not against a Hemi not going in my car... Im just wondering why stick a hemi in a damn oldsmobile made by chrysler and accidently leaving CHaRGER on it. If your gonna do that, may-aswell stick a LS49 Chev motor in it, cost less and still be 'unusual' and it will make huge power to and probbably fit a lot easier.

[RD]

Im not against a Hemi not going in my car... Im just wondering why stick a hemi in a damn oldsmobile made by chrysler and accidently leaving CHaRGER on it. If your gonna do that, may-aswell stick a LS49 Chev motor in it, cost less and still be 'unusual' and it will make huge power to and probbably fit a lot easier.

well i guess i dont see it as "wasting" a hemi.  wasting a hemi would be leaving it in a storage unit for 20 years.  it doesnt matter what car the engine goes in, as long as it goes in a car.  this fictitious concept of a hemi cannot be in anything 75-78 B body is bullshit in my opinion.  it can be in anything that anybody wants to be in.  The only issue as i see it is motor mounts, radiator inlet/outlet in regards to the old style waterpump housing, some removal of electrical stuff from the "lean burn" era, and a brake booster.  there are absolutely no other modifications that will need to be taken into consideration when putting a hemi engine in that car.  it was a big block 400 car to begin with, so driveshaft length is not an issue (though a upgraded 2790 shaft maybe nicer, it is not needed).

and frankly G-Man, putting a chevy motor in a mopar is just as WRONG AS TWO BOYS SMOOCHING IN CHURCH ON SUNDAY. IF YOU DO IT, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL. 

[Cooter]

I think "she" is a "he" but I agree with you on the room.  It's still not going to be a drop in swap in my opinion.  But let us not forget the many many vehicles that found Hemis between their fenders back in the day.  All those Willy's coupes and what have you never had Hemi K-frames or suspensions designed with that load in mind.
But it'll be an undertaking.

Your leaving out a VERY important detail there Ghost....Those Hemi's in those Willy's coupes you refer to weren't done with STREET driving in mind. Most were done just this side of dangerous...They were stuffed in there for one purpose "back in the day"..Going fast in a straight line..Even the ones today are not stock chassis', they in fact, tube chassis $150K vehicles...But, a HEMI IS in a Willy's...

[G-man]

Im not against a Hemi not going in my car... Im just wondering why stick a hemi in a damn oldsmobile made by chrysler and accidently leaving CHaRGER on it. If your gonna do that, may-aswell stick a LS49 Chev motor in it, cost less and still be 'unusual' and it will make huge power to and probbably fit a lot easier.

and frankly G-Man, putting a chevy motor in a mopar is just as WRONG AS TWO BOYS SMOOCHING IN CHURCH ON SUNDAY. IF YOU DO IT, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.  

I dont go church sundays (first day of the week). I go on Sabbath the day blessed, halowed and rested on. But yes 2 boys smooching....  

Well people stick hemis in chevies, now they wanna stick it in a chrysler badged oldsmobile... that car is more or less an 'old' car not a classic muscle car so who cares what motor you stick in it. It aint worth jack.

The engine is worth more than the car so I dont see how smart it is putting that in.

[Steelshanks]

The engine is worth more than the car so I dont see how smart it is putting that in.

Pretty sure you could say that about a lot of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gen with Hemi's in them.

At any rate, I think he should put it in that car or save it for another car. Turning around and selling it or trading it off would probably burn some bridges.

[Ghoste]

I only use the Willys as an example of making a Hemi fit where it was never meant to go.  I'm still not saying that making it go in a 77 Charger would be easy just that it can most cerainly be done.

[Lizey]

ok, so as long as I dont plan on drag racing the thing I dont need all these upgrades? I mean the whole car needs to be rebuilt as it is so it could be a good idea and my cousin has done this kind of thing before  (460 in his '79 Mustang, dont ask me how that works ive never seen it) so he knows about putting engines in cars that shouldnt have them, i figure ill ask him as well... but value isnt the thing here I know this car isnt worth jack I could sell my Jetta Wolfsburg for more id bet but the cars been in the family since almost new so ok so the Hemi could go in something else, something better, yes im aware of this... but thats the thing I dont want it to so in reality, what all should I do to this thing so that once it's in im not going to rip my car in half??

[Ghoste]

I would worry more about getting it in there and then doing suspension and braking upgrades to deal with it.  The fundamental unibody design there is about the same as the earlier B-bodies so there is no reason to think you are going to "rip the car in half".  That said, subframe connectors are a good idea for all of us.

[Lizey]

I would worry more about getting it in there and then doing suspension and braking upgrades to deal with it.  The fundamental unibody design there is about the same as the earlier B-bodies so there is no reason to think you are going to "rip the car in half".  That said, subframe connectors are a good idea for all of us.

ok yeah i suppose that would be helpful I wont be driving the snot out of this car but Id like to know im not going to torque something if I decide to give it hell one day pulling out of school or something

[Ghoste]

Any healthy engine is going to cause pretty much any unibody car to flex in places we don't want it to under the right (wrong?) conditions.

[Lizey]

enough to damage it?

and to be honest to all of you a healthy 440 sounds better and better as time goes on...

[Ghoste]

If you turn the car over and look at the floors, you will see a pair of structural members going to either end of the car at the sides.  If you notice, they don't meet in the middle under the passenger compartment.  The same twisting effort that makes one side of the car lose traction easier than the other or makes the car want to go sideways or causes a need for heavier leaf springs on one side or the other or a need for the battery in the trunk located over one side of the axle is at work here.  Look at pictures of a lot of drag cars as they leave the line and you'll notice one side is coming up higher than the other.  This same twisting motion is going on through the entire car and that point in the middle where there are no structural longitudinal members is the easiest place for it to twist the car.  Eventually that twisting begins to take a "set" in the vehicle and handling deteriorates, cracks form the "C" pillar behind the rear side glass and so on.  It would take a pretty strong engine and a pretty flimsy car to literally rip it in half but yes, permanent damage will result over time.

[Lizey]

If you turn the car over and look at the floors, you will see a pair of structural members going to either end of the car at the sides.  If you notice, they don't meet in the middle under the passenger compartment.  The same twisting effort that makes one side of the car lose traction easier than the other or makes the car want to go sideways or causes a need for heavier leaf springs on one side or the other or a need for the battery in the trunk located over one side of the axle is at work here.  Look at pictures of a lot of drag cars as they leave the line and you'll notice one side is coming up higher than the other.  This same twisting motion is going on through the entire car and that point in the middle where there are no structural longitudinal members is the easiest place for it to twist the car.  Eventually that twisting begins to take a "set" in the vehicle and handling deteriorates, cracks form the "C" pillar behind the rear side glass and so on.  It would take a pretty strong engine and a pretty flimsy car to literally rip it in half but yes, permanent damage will result over time.

but for just street driving, im not going to be drag racing the thing, will that still damage it significantly?

[Ghoste]

It shouldn't, no.  Keep in mind that I'm giving you an opinion here without being 100% on the condition of your car and the exact layout of the reinforcing parts of the unibody subframe.  You are going that far though, spend the little bit of extra money, weld in a set of connectors and get peace of mind and better handling at the same time.

[Lizey]

It shouldn't, no.  Keep in mind that I'm giving you an opinion here without being 100% on the condition of your car and the exact layout of the reinforcing parts of the unibody subframe.  You are going that far though, spend the little bit of extra money, weld in a set of connectors and get peace of mind and better handling at the same time.

its a rust free California car and what would set of connectors run me?

[defiance]

They're probably not available for your car, (not sure on that), so you'd just get some square tubing (I think 3x3 is common) and weld it in.  Sometimes that requires cutting on the rear floorboards to fit and then welding it all back together tight..  So getting them is inexpensive, but getting them installed is a bit more inolved.  If you're not pretty good with a welder you'll have to have it done, and I really have no idea how much that would be...

[bordin34]

Magnum Force should have connectors for your car, but they are bolt on. You car is basically a 73/74 Charger with different body panels, the subframe and unibody should be almost identical. Check car domain somebody has a Hemi in a 73.
Hemidoug about that 440...

[Cooter]

Lizey, I guess if you've got the "balls" to go for it and have someone there that knows how things should be installed, that 426 Hemi isn't gonna "Rip the car" apart...It's "Only" making around 425-490 HP so a healthy 440 would do that much..The big thing is getting in good with your install guy/gal and get it in there....I would like to see when done...
You WILL have your work cut out for you though...I know EXACTLY what you are talking bout with a 460 in a Mustang, as I have one in a 1970 Maverick and THAT's a whole lot harder to install than a Mustang...

Good luck..

[bordin34]

I found the Hemi 73 Charger maybe you can ask this guy for help.
http://rides.hotrod.com/ride/1001676/73hemi/1973/dodge/charger/index.html

[squeakfinder]

 Get a Hemi or a 440 in there and you won't be able resist stomping on it.

I welded my subframe connector's in myself, but if you do go through with this and decide to have connectors put in you might talk with people who install exhaust systems for a living. Being that these guys are used to welding overhead.

 But as stated, get the engine in the car first. And then see what else needs to be done later.
If one side of the front of the car noticeably lifts higher than the other under hard acceleration. And your passenger door all of a sudden doesn't want to close properly you'll know something needs to be done to the car, or your driving habits.

[ACUDANUT]

 A guy named Lizzy ? Put the Hemi in a REAL muscle car. A 77 Charger is down right Ugly.

[no318]

I have a 440 that I put into a dodge magnum that has been there for years.  No subframe connectors.  No problems. 

[Khyron]

enough to damage it?

and to be honest to all of you a healthy 440 sounds better and better as time goes on...

see my other post..... You can get more power for a lot less money with a 440. Now don't get me wrong, a Hemi is a nice motor, if you want to fine tune it all the time. hemis need maintenance. Believe it or not I had a choice this go around on my motor.... and I picked the 440.....ish motor

[Ghoste]

But if you got the Hemi for free, then what?   

[Khyron]

Im gonna piss a lot of people off by saying this.... I would shelf it till it was worth a lot more, or sell it to finance a hell of a stroker kit / heads/ and ram air intake for my 440

and still have money left over

[mauve66]

has anybody seen or remember the 4th gen daytona winged chargers???

[Lizey]

A guy named Lizzy ?

pronounced: "Lie-Zee"

and i guess what it comes down to, me being a teenager with a minimal income, is im going to get it in there and ill see... if I notice that one sides lifting or whatever, ill get connectors and other stuff done as time goes on

that aside, other than new mounts what will it take to get this thing in there?

[Hemidoug]

Your biggest problem is exhaust and brakes...I don't believe 71-74 B body exhaust stuff will work. The brake booster needs to be offset to clear the valve covers. You will need a custom radiator. You will need to figure out the powersteering combo/brackets, ect. Then there is the wiring, upgraded fuel lines (yes, needed). May need a BB trans mount.......

I don't know what condition the motor is in, but if it was yanked out of a car and sat around for any length of time, I would budget in some freshening for the motor...

[RD]

Your biggest problem is exhaust and brakes...I don't believe 71-74 B body exhaust stuff will work. The brake booster needs to be offset to clear the valve covers. You will need a custom radiator. You will need to figure out the powersteering combo/brackets, ect. Then there is the wiring, upgraded fuel lines (yes, needed). May need a BB trans mount.......

I don't know what condition the motor is in, but if it was yanked out of a car and sat around for any length of time, I would budget in some freshening for the motor...

good points doug, but to make this somewhat of a reality check.. the stuff you mentioned is exactly the same stuff that any guy putting a big block motor where a small block motor was, would have to do too.

LI-Zee "the guy" sorry about that from earlier (thought it was lizzy too), it can be done.  Nothing in life worth fighting for is ever easy, but the end product is always well worth it.  If you do this, the knowledge and fun gained from it is irreplaceable.  Good luck either way.

[Daytona R/T SE]

A guy named Lizzy ?

other than new mounts what will it take to get this thing in there?

Roughly....$20,000.

[Hemidoug]

Your biggest problem is exhaust and brakes...I don't believe 71-74 B body exhaust stuff will work. The brake booster needs to be offset to clear the valve covers. You will need a custom radiator. You will need to figure out the powersteering combo/brackets, ect. Then there is the wiring, upgraded fuel lines (yes, needed). May need a BB trans mount.......

I don't know what condition the motor is in, but if it was yanked out of a car and sat around for any length of time, I would budget in some freshening for the motor...

good points doug, but to make this somewhat of a reality check.. the stuff you mentioned is exactly the same stuff that any guy putting a big block motor where a small block motor was, would have to do too.

LI-Zee "the guy" sorry about that from earlier (thought it was lizzy too), it can be done.  Nothing in life worth fighting for is ever easy, but the end product is always well worth it.  If you do this, the knowledge and fun gained from it is irreplaceable.  Good luck either way.

'Cept for the exhaust, brake booster/bracket, and custom mounts.......he did ask....

Don't forget all the nit pickey stuff that you run into when doing custom work....throttle cable too long/short, pulley miss matches, custom parts that are not custom enough to fit...wiring bugs, steering column issues, oil pan issues, hood clearance issues.......

Being different isn't easy...be prepaired for the long run....it is going to take some work but it is possible

[mauve66]

A guy named Lizzy ?

other than new mounts what will it take to get this thing in there?

? no way dude

Roughly....$20,000.

[Daytona R/T SE]

A guy named Lizzy ?

other than new mounts what will it take to get this thing in there?

Roughly....$20,000.

? no way dude

You're right ...probably closer to $25,000

[RD]

25k? ur joking

[Hemidoug]

25k? ur joking

If you're talking a fresh motor then I'd say 3k all said and done. If the motor needs work your talking another 8-10 grand done right. Then you need to dig into the trans...

[RD]

8-10 grand for a motor? not where i come from and that is done right.  as for the trans.. um... i got that part covered

as for lizey.. i can cover that for him too (cheaply and done right).

[Hemidoug]

Whatever....just know it ain't gonna be a walk in the park....and when you are talking Hemi the price and the complacation just quadrupled....Hemi's ain't wedges....

[RD]

 

[squeakfinder]

   Oh come on, this is good stuff. Don't stop conversing now.

[Hemidoug]

   Oh come on, this is good stuff. Don't stop conversing now.

What's left to say? I don't know what experience he has doing engine swaps but I can tell you how much I have...I've been doing this kind of stuff for the better part of 30 years..in everything from putting turbo Daytona motors in Horizons to stuffing big blocks into vans and all the muscle car stuff in between....but I don't know what I'm talking about....

[squeakfinder]

  Never said you didn't know what you were talking about. I started 16 years ago with a full size Blazer and 9 inch lift and 38 inch tires and 4:56 gears. Then I crammed a 231 buick V-6 into a CJ-2.
After selling that stuff off I had the money to work on my first 68 Charger.

[squeakfinder]

 
Sorry Doug, It was kinda funny watching you argue with somebody.

[Lizey]

ok...now if I go 440 am i still looking at all these problems??

[Hemidoug]

Look, the kid wants to know what is involved...why not learn from someone who has been down this road....that's all.

[squeakfinder]

 
I agree with you Doug. As far as a 440 is concerned, if the car was a 400 You may have to make some changes on the exhaust because the RB block is wider.

[Hemidoug]

ok...now if I go 440 am i still looking at all these problems??

You still need some of the same stuff, but you don't have to worry about moving the brake booster, the exhaust manifolds already exist along with the entire system. You still have to get BB radiator, pulleys/brackets, accessories, and mounts but ALL of those things are readily available.

Look, I'm not trying to talk you out of doing what you want to do, I'm just trying to tell you up front so IF you go down this road you won't be supprised. Customizing is just that....customizing.

[Lizey]

ok...now if I go 440 am i still looking at all these problems??

You still need some of the same stuff, but you don't have to worry about moving the brake booster, the exhaust manifolds already exist along with the entire system. You still have to get BB radiator, pulleys/brackets, accessories, and mounts but ALL of those things are readily available.

Look, I'm not trying to talk you out of doing what you want to do, I'm just trying to tell you up front so IF you go down this road you won't be supprised. Customizing is just that....customizing.

well as much as I want to put a Hemi in it,
that hemi will be there forever...

so i figure ill 440 my '77 and down the road find a '69 to slap the Hemi in

[mauve66]

yes there are things that HAVE to be done but it won't take 20-25 GRAND, thats just pure bullsh$t.  he's not talking about making the hemi a 572 or restoring the car completely , he's taking about dropping the block into the car and driving it to the grocery store

radiator/fans $500 max
motor mounts $250 max
check the rings bearings and timing chain on the motor $500 max
maybe another $500 if they ALL need replacing
throttle cable $50
headers $500
fuel lines can stay, he won't be able to run the motor hard cause the rearend won't take it, probably just an 8.25, he's looking for WOW factor not a strip mauler
shift brake booster $???
even if thats a grand we're still less than $4000.00
the car was a b block so the front end will still hold up, if its old and wore out it had to be replaced anyway, thats not part of the equation
the brackets and pulleys are available used and new so maybe another grand if you dont look hard

[Hemidoug]

That's up to you..everyone has a dream. Just know that Hemis eat a lot of wrenching, oil, fuel, and money....and that's no lie. That's what made them rare cars to begin with....not everyone can keep up with them.

[mauve66]

and a single 4 bbl intake with a modern carb is alot easier to live with now than they were in the old days, timing and compression and ignition will make it all more livable, remember the first years of the hemi it was just a de-tuned race motor with points

[Troy]

Ok, here's my take. Regardless of what is possible, the mistake I see is throwing money at something that isn't a priority (or, better, a dream). I have found myself many times thinking "I could fix that up into something neat" knowing that I have (or can get) cars that I dream about. I think many of us get sidetracked by endless projects that end up being a waste of time, energy, and money when we could have been working towards a goal. I'm not talking about fixing or parting another car to make money to get what we want either. If the ultimate goal is to have a 69 Charger (Hemi or not) then all efforts should be focused on that. The 77 probably makes a great driver and it's cheap. Leave it that way or you'll have a torn apart pile of a car spread over every square inch of work area - probably waiting on more money to buy parts with. When/if it finally gets on the road it won't be worth any/much more than when you started so it's (mostly) useless as a means of funding the dream. The work experience would be valuable I guess but general mechanical knowledge can be had just by maintaining the car in its stock configuration.

Troy

[RD]

dude, do whatever you want, but do us all a favor and dont bring up putting a hemi in a 75-78 b body again or this crap will happen all over again.

i wonder if ray barton said he was going to put a hemi in a 77 daytona if you all would pretty much tell him it wasnt worth it either?  with that.. RD is signing off of this ludicrous topic.

[Khyron]

o.k....... Im out

is Lizey dutch for mustanghater?

[Daytona R/T SE]

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[Daytona R/T SE]

Personally, I kinda like the later B-Bodies

I'd wouldn't mind having a Magnum.

Here's Lizey's description of his car:


1977 Dodge Charger SE
360 c.i. V8
4 Barrel Carb.
Torqueflight (A727)? Automatic 3-Speed Transmission
Dual Exhaust
Cragar Wheels
White W/ Creme Vinyl Top
SUNROOF!!!  
All Power Options

Could be a cool cruiser, I'd fix it up a little and cruise it just the way it is...

Put the hemi away for a later project...when you can afford to do it right.

[ACUDANUT]

 it's kind of fun "listening" you all. He still has yet to take possession of "said Hemi". I'll believe it when I see. If your just a kid and want a killer car, sell it and have a fun Charger to show off in.

[Cooter]

Believe me ACudanut, it's kinda fun to "Listen" to you as well....





So? He can't have ANY fun in a 1977 Hemi Charger? None? At all?

[Hemidoug]

it's kind of fun "listening" you all. He still has yet to take possession of "said Hemi". I'll believe it when I see. If your just a kid and want a killer car, sell it and have a fun Charger to show off in.

I agree...it makes for some good bench racing.....the proof is in the pudding so to speak...

[JB400]

How did this project/ idea work out?

[Lizey]

Long story short I couldn't get the Hemi. The motor/tranny are out of it now waiting to be rebuilt, I'm sticking with the 360 but I'm still debating finding a different transmission...don't know if I'm a big fan of the 3 speed for what I'll be using the car for. Everything is currently sitting in my Grandparent's garage while I am away at school.