Dodge Charger 440 cam help?

[ChargerMad]

hi folks,need a bit of help on rebuild no2, at present have trw L2355f plus 30s,h beam rods steel crank,eddy performer heads ,tm7 intake. around 9.5 comp,have facility for both hydraulic or solid valve train, 750vac sec ,headers ,  2 1/2 exhaust, electronic dizzy, 323 rear gears. need something high performance street /strip . Cant afford build no3, welcome any suggestions thanks dan

[Purple440]

Hi Dan, what is your stall at?  Stock?  Auto or manual trans?

[ChargerMad]

automatic mate, stock stall convertor may go high stall but prefer to keep the car for streetability. What do you think?

[femtnmax]

I suggest do searches on this website and cuda-challenger website.  Also look at proven engine combo section of each of these websites.  Lots of good examples.

[SeattleCharger]

 K-58  lunati
   maybe at least 2500 stall if you can   

[ChargerMad]

 A few people have mentioned the k58 also  lunati voodo 268  cam, the cam i was running in build 1 was comp extreme282/290   .520  .540ex 110 lsa .The 346 heads didnt work with it hence now the eddys.   DAN  .

[firefighter3931]

A few people have mentioned the k58 also  lunati voodo 268  cam, the cam i was running in build 1 was comp extreme282/290   .520  .540ex 110 lsa .The 346 heads didnt work with it hence now the eddys.   DAN  .

What happened with the XS282S....that's an excellent cam. 

Not exactly right for your combo....you need more gear and stall to make it work properly. 



Ron

[Purple440]

automatic mate, stock stall convertor may go high stall but prefer to keep the car for streetability. What do you think?

I was going to say Engle K-56 but I just hit their website and their cams are in a PDF and the grind#'s have changed, or I'm looking wrong??  Has anyone else seen this?   

I would say the Engle grind# EP-20HYD but normally I'd say the K-56 which doesn't look like it exists anymore.  Ron, have you seen their website lately?

- Doug

[ChargerMad]

hi ron , the xs282 cam i still have with only 150 miles on it,  the heads werent up to it,but the gears and stall was not helping matters as you say.   Ive swung to eddy heads and  going for zero deck  .been told over cammed on no1 build it  sounded the nuts but had a lot of issues with a faulty 3000 stall, things went from bad to worse . I now know the combo must be matched ( live and learn ) If i reuse this cam what sort of gears should i be running and stall for steetability thanks dan 

[firefighter3931]

automatic mate, stock stall convertor may go high stall but prefer to keep the car for streetability. What do you think?

I was going to say Engle K-56 but I just hit their website and their cams are in a PDF and the grind#'s have changed, or I'm looking wrong??  Has anyone else seen this?   

I would say the Engle grind# EP-20HYD but normally I'd say the K-56 which doesn't look like it exists anymore.  Ron, have you seen their website lately?

- Doug

Doug, i heard that Engle Cams was sold recently. It looks like they no longer list the K-series hyd cams on the website. That would be a mistake on the part of the new owners if that's the case. 

I guess the best way to confirm would be a phone call....


Ron

[firefighter3931]

hi ron , the xs282 cam i still have with only 150 miles on it,  the heads werent up to it,but the gears and stall was not helping matters as you say.   Ive swung to eddy heads and  going for zero deck  .been told over cammed on no1 build it  sounded the nuts but had a lot of issues with a faulty 3000 stall, things went from bad to worse . I now know the combo must be matched ( live and learn ) If i reuse this cam what sort of gears should i be running and stall for steetability thanks dan 

Dan, the XS282S is perfect for the e-heads and a zero deck shortblock. I specced that cam for VegasMike's build which is almost identical to yours. read about it here :

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6000.0.html

Dynamic makes a nice 10in converter that would work just fine with that cam and they are very streetable. I have the dynamic 9.5in unit in mine and it drives real well on the street....feels very close to a stock unit until you mash the pedal....then all hell breaks loose !   

As for gears....a set of 3.91's would be the ticket. With a 28in tire the cruising rpms on the hwy are reasonable but the fun factor in town increases exponentially ! 



Ron

[ChargerMad]

thanks all , thanks ron im going to go for that set up, i was recommended that cam  but after a few issues heads ,converter and rear gears i was  leaning away from the cam but you learn the hard way .  Ive crane rockers 1.5 will they be ok on the eddys , should i fit the matched springs from comp or keep with the eddy springs dan

[firefighter3931]

thanks all , thanks ron im going to go for that set up, i was recommended that cam  but after a few issues heads ,converter and rear gears i was  leaning away from the cam but you learn the hard way .  Ive crane rockers 1.5 will they be ok on the eddys , should i fit the matched springs from comp or keep with the eddy springs dan

Dan, the crane 1.5's are perfect....they fit the RPM head like a glove. Excellent valvetrain geometry and alignment with the valve stems.  The stock e-heads springs are fine with that cam and a 1.5 rocker ratio. If you had 1.6 rockers the accelerated valve action would necessitate a stouter spring but for your setup it's good to go...as is 

All you really need to make this work well is a good quality converter (Dynamic 10in) and a set of 3.91's for the 8 3/4. 


Ron

[ChargerMad]

thanks ron,. great help. Will keep all posted on the build and fire up  thanks all dan

[Purple440]

automatic mate, stock stall convertor may go high stall but prefer to keep the car for streetability. What do you think?

I was going to say Engle K-56 but I just hit their website and their cams are in a PDF and the grind#'s have changed, or I'm looking wrong??  Has anyone else seen this?   

I would say the Engle grind# EP-20HYD but normally I'd say the K-56 which doesn't look like it exists anymore.  Ron, have you seen their website lately?

- Doug

Doug, i heard that Engle Cams was sold recently. It looks like they no longer list the K-series hyd cams on the website. That would be a mistake on the part of the new owners if that's the case. 

I guess the best way to confirm would be a phone call....


Ron

I emailed them and Doug said the K-56 is still available, and they're working on the website.  I kinda ripped them for putting everything in a PDF, and he said they're still working on the website.

- Doug