I think this guy had the right approach ...

[jb666]

[Silver R/T]

Smart guy

[RECHRGD]

Hell yes!!!!!!

[Charger440RDN]

This would be the perfect solution to Guantanamo Bay, instead of arguing about where to put them, they should put pigs blood on all of them and then execute them. Problem solved.

[68X426]

Pork... bringing peace to the world in so many ways.

[The70RT]

Now you go into convenient stores and they smell like swine.....go figure.

[Arthu®]

I find the fact that it suggests that because of this there was no muslim extremist attack for the next 42 years highly debatable. I highly doubt it's the case...

Arthur

[mikepmcs]

They are actually still debating this one and it doesn't say it's false.

I'm sure it didn't happen exactly like the above posting that's been circulating for some time... but here is a little history on what they can decipher.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

[Arthu®]

I wasn't questioning whether the execution happened or not, not even if there hasn't been a Muslim extremist attack for 42 years afterwards. I just doubt the two have a direct connection.

Arthur

[Silver R/T]

well....we could always try the same in the Iraq/Afghanistan and see what happens. Of course we have what's called "foreign policy" .....

[Landonsrt]

I agree with his tactics. Why in the hell do americans BITCH about interrogations tactics when terrorists (mostly Muslims) will behead people with a rusty knife or slaughter women for looking at other men?? I dont see their people marching and holding rallies for the injust treatment of our people!!! The only time they march is when they are carrying around dead, half naked soldiers for parade!!

Where are everyones priorities when it comes to our safety or justification?

[Arthu®]

I agree with his tactics. Why in the hell do americans BITCH about interrogations tactics when terrorists (mostly Muslims) will behead people with a rusty knife or slaughter women for looking at other men?? I dont see their people marching and holding rallies for the injust treatment of our people!!! The only time they march is when they are carrying around dead, half naked soldiers for parade!!

Where are everyones priorities when it comes to our safety or justification?

I would be careful with that discussion. While I can understand your point of view somewhat, but what would separate us (if there is such a thing as us) from them? Just pretending for a moment that these wars are actually about establishing new democracies and bringing peace with honor to those regions. Wouldn't we need to give the better, more humane, example? Wouldn't it otherwise not just fuel the grounds for a new generation even further?

[Mike DC]

    
Does the general public actually disagree over this stuff?


When you subtract the bullshit from the media and from washington, I think most real people (on both sides) have a fairly uniform opinion about what we should & shouldn't be doing to the bad guys.  IMHO this is a fabricated wedge issue more than a real problem.  




All that stuff about "these (liberals/media morons/etc) wanna blame us for being too rough on the bad guys!"  .  .  . IMHO it's the talking heads fabricating an issue more than a real issue.  

Even the stuff about busting Bush & Cheney for okaying torture . . . that's still not the PUBLIC disagreeing about our guidelines for treating the bad guys.  It's still just a bunch of political maneuvering in washington to gain leverage over one side or the other.

   

[Arthu®]

   
Does the general public actually disagree over this stuff?


When you subtract the bullshit from the media and from washington, I think most real people (on both sides) have a fairly uniform opinion about what we should & shouldn't be doing to the bad guys.  IMHO this is a fabricated wedge issue more than a real problem.  




All that stuff about "these clowns wanna blame us for being too rough on the bad guys!"  .  .  . IMHO it's the talking heads getting ratings more than real problems. 

Even the stuff about busting Bush & Cheney for okaying torture . . . that's still not the PUBLIC disagreeing about our guidelines for treating the bad guys.  It's still just a bunch of political maneuvering in washington to gain leverage over one side or the other.

   

So what is this uniform opinion exactly? So that I know if I agree or disagree...

[Mike DC]

The vast majority of real live breathing american people that I hear taking about this, they seem to share a lot of roughly similar feelings:  


The bad guys are enemy soldiers and should be treated as such.  The majority of americans seem to feel that the bad guys are not due the kind of "due process" legal rights that we would demand our own citizens recieve, since the bad guys aren't US citizens and it's not our soil.  Obviosly it's a wartime situation and it's not our duty to extend all the luxuries of a peacetime govt.  But I think american people still mostly seem to feel we should not be torturing & unnecessarily abusing people for its own sake because that makes us no better than who we are fighting.  

IMHO the majority of the american public seems to be okay with torturing a bad guy for information if american military or american public lives clearly hang in the balance. At least hypothetically speaking.  But the public still seems uneasy about that kind of action from our side when faced with real world instances of it, because it's no secret that info gained under these kinds of circumstances is unreliable at best.  These particular details about the public's opinion are possibly the most divided/murky areas.  

The prospect of US forces transferring captured bad guys over to foreign parties, so THEY can torture them for us . . .  that issue has not been very high on the public's collective radar.  I can't really guess what the prevailing common opinion would be about that.  



My apologies to anyone who thinks I'm seriously mistaken.  This is just what I personally think is the "feeling in the air" here.

[mikepmcs]

I wasn't questioning whether the execution happened or not, not even if there hasn't been a Muslim extremist attack for 42 years afterwards. I just doubt the two have a direct connection.

Arthur

Arthur,
My response was not even directed at yours, sorry for the miscommunication. I was just responding in general to the original post by Jeff, I actually didn't even read any posts prior to responding.  I was curious to see if it had been debunked is all.

I echo Mike BTW, although, he is much more articulate than I.  I'm more of the "kill em all and let whomever sort em out" mentality. I've tried to be more the other way lately, after all, who doesn't want to just have everyone get along, but alas.......... I am what I am.    I imagine this will get locked here pretty quick cause it is going down the forbidden road. So....


INB4DALOC    

[0X01B8]

This is also from motifake.com.

[bull]

It's like this, people want to have their cake and eat it too. They'll get all offended when they find out you hunt and kill animals but then two hours later they're in Sizzler eating chicken and steak. Or they get all upset when people cut trees down to make lumber and their protest signs are made out of wood and paper. They get their panties in a wad over Hummers that get 12 mpg so they demand electric cars that run on electricity stored by hazardous batteries and recharged by coal-burning electric generators. People are dumb.

[Tilar]

I agree with his tactics. Why in the hell do americans BITCH about interrogations tactics when terrorists (mostly Muslims) will behead people with a rusty knife or slaughter women for looking at other men?? I dont see their people marching and holding rallies for the injust treatment of our people!!! The only time they march is when they are carrying around dead, half naked soldiers for parade!!

Where are everyones priorities when it comes to our safety or justification?

The problem is that our laws make no concessions for common sense, and there are people that work at keeping it that way. Black Jack Pershing was right on the money with this one.

[mikepmcs]

They get their panties in a wad over Hummers that get 12 mpg so they demand electric cars that run on electricity stored by hazardous batteries and recharged by coal-burning electric generators. People are dumb.

I got 15mpg in mine. I used to get flipped off daily in my Hummer by someone in a jeep/volvo/subaru it always seemed.  My dually gets 9mpg and everyone hoots and hollars when I drive that thing down the road. WTF? 

[Mike DC]

Why the hell to Americans bitch about interrogations tactics when terrorists (mostly muslims) will behead people with a rusty knife or slaughter women for looking at other men?

This is what i was getting at. 



I never seem to hear real, living, breathing citizens doing much bitching about the fairness of US military interrogation tactics.   

I just hear a lot of politicians trying to use it as ammunition against their opponents (either direction), and I hear a lot of media personalities indignantly railing about what a huge problem it is.   

[Landonsrt]

It's like this, people want to have their cake and eat it too. They'll get all offended when they find out you hunt and kill animals but then two hours later they're in Sizzler eating chicken and steak. Or they get all upset when people cut trees down to make lumber and their protest signs are made out of wood and paper. They get their panties in a wad over Hummers that get 12 mpg so they demand electric cars that run on electricity stored by hazardous batteries and recharged by coal-burning electric generators. People are dumb.

AMEN my brother!!!!!

[268RTs4ME]

In Poplar Bluff, Mo. the Va Hospital is the John J, Pershing Va Medical Center, he was mean enough to get a hospital named after him,  I go there to see my shrink, because of this mopar problem I have and the war.