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Started by xx29440charger, November 20, 2009, 10:00:55 AM

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Mikesmoparperformance

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1966 Dodge Charger 383 CI


BB1

Ford already has a new/old Retro 69 Shelby Mustang.

I saw it at SEMA, this thing is too cool.

http://allfordmustangs.com/forums/2005-talk/186370-new-retrobuilt-1969-shelby-gt500-mustang-week-2009-a.html
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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Cooter

Rear fender needs to match the size of the front please...Other than that, I give it Two thumbs up!
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

moparstuart

 I love the new mustanges  but that is    :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:


  fron the side it looks like a challenger front end and some strange import rear 1/2
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GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

BB1

Common Stuart, I'd buy one in a second.

Maybe I'm becoming a more of a ford fan these days.  :scratchchin:

Got to admit Ford has been doing alot right in the last 5 years.

This picture is from a real 69 GT500, the new one looks almost dead on.

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vancamp

I like the shelby, now if chrysler could do a little to the challenger or a new charger and get it in the mid 20's on price

Just 6T9 CHGR

Chris' '69 Charger R/T



RD

sorry if i am a cynic or a pessimist, but chrysler / fiat really doesnt give a shit about what we want.  they will produce what will make them money, and fulfilling middle (and later) something men's dreams and fantasies wont make them the money they want.

so.. piss on them.  I got my chargers.. this new chrysler (or fiat), can kiss my red, white and blue ass.
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

BB1

 :iagree:   At least ford has some good innovation and American retro styling.


:puke: chrysler/fiat
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miller time

I would buy it only if they named it something else.
Charger name ends 36 or so years ago, and "fudging" it up now doesn't make too much sense to me.
Car makes need to move, making these body styles from the 60s and 70s doesnt make sense!
Driving a 10 challenger doesn't make you look cool, you look like a poser.
By the way, I'm waiting form my freakin flying car still!!!!
:soapbox: :horse:

Charger440RDN

One thing you have to give Ford credit for is the fact that they never dropped their pony car, while GM killed the Camaro and chrysler killed the Challenger. The original Challenger had a very short run which some people forget 70-74

Mike DC

 
Porsche has been making a 911 variant of some kind since the muscle era. 

Levi's still sells 501 bluejeans. 



I don't find anything inherently goofy about car brands doing modern examples of 40yo products.  But it does go over better when it's an uninterrupted 40-year run and the years in the middle are unique parts of the legacy too. 

 

Ghoste


bull

Quote from: Charger440RDN on November 20, 2009, 08:37:44 PM
The original Challenger had a very short run which some people forget 70-74

And still others forget about the late '70s/early '80s Challengers.


Ghoste

Pimping a name in hope isn't an isolated thing for the car makers.  The Mustang II, the late 80's Nova.

bull

Quote from: Ghoste on November 21, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
Pimping a name in hope isn't an isolated thing for the car makers.  The Mustang II, the late 80's Nova.

I don't think anyone has pushed it to its most embarrassing extreme more than Chrysler though, especially during the past 3-4 years. Rumble Bee, Super Bee, Daytona (cars and trucks), Power Wagon, Charger, etc.

Ghoste

No, but then again IMO, they had a larger and greater legacy to mine.

dkn1997

that new "gt500" makes me want to  :puke:  I have never seen such a hodgepodge mismatch.  from the beltline down it's perfect. up top it's as bad an abortion as you will ever see.

the hood is all wrong and the roofline is all wrong. I think the hood needs to be flatter, not look like a quansit hut from ww2.  I don't know how to fix that roof line though... it's 100% wrong for that old mustang body kit.
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miller

Quote from: dkn1997 on November 22, 2009, 10:26:43 AM
that new "gt500" makes me want to  :puke:  I have never seen such a hodgepodge mismatch.  from the beltline down it's perfect. up top it's as bad an abortion as you will ever see.

the hood is all wrong and the roofline is all wrong. I think the hood needs to be flatter, not look like a quansit hut from ww2.  I don't know how to fix that roof line though... it's 100% wrong for that old mustang body kit.

Then get the convertible.

Such an example would be my cousins new 2010 gt-500 (which my uncle bought for him of course, being 15 and having a gt-500 as your first car... some people have all the luck).  :shruggy:

2005 Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster Custom - Maggie
2012 370Z NISMO - Courtney
1979 Corvette L-82 - Lilly
1969 Dodge Charger R/T Clone - Vanessa

TK73

Daimler F-ed up Chrysler.

Ford "retros" the '05 Mustang ant it SELLS LIKE CRAZY.  Daimler had their chance, they could have made a Charger instead of reissuing the Coronet. They then release a cool retro Challenger YEARS later...

2008 I was waiting for the '09 Challenger to hit the dealers, it was delayed so I waited and waited and waited... went and bought a new Mustang...

After watching Chrysler over the last few years I would not buy anything from them now.
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


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      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
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aussiemuscle

Quote from: bull on November 21, 2009, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: Charger440RDN on November 20, 2009, 08:37:44 PM
The original Challenger had a very short run which some people forget 70-74

And still others forget about the late '70s/early '80s Challengers.


So true

:hah:
Quote from: miller timeCharger name ends 36 or so years ago

FastbackJon

How come this guy doesn't work for Chrysler...?? This thing is slick!






"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




dkn1997

Quote from: FastbackJon on November 23, 2009, 03:46:37 AM
How come this guy doesn't work for Chrysler...?? This thing is slick!








problem is the general public doesn't know what that is.  everyone knows a camaro or mustang.  not too many people even know what the challenger and barracuda were.  lets face it, it's john q public with his 6 cyl. plane job that sells most..people who buy that model pretty much know nothing about cars.

thats why they won't make a retro 71 ish sattelite
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vancamp

Quote from: FastbackJon on November 23, 2009, 03:46:37 AM
How come this guy doesn't work for Chrysler...?? This thing is slick!







also plymouth is no more wouldnt be right calling it a chrysler road runner, i agree its sharp but like was said only mopar die hards would understand it, also they would probaly shoot themselves in the foot again by overpricing it like the challenger.

HPP

It is an interesting thought, but  can't happen because of the scale of economy in manufacturing. To build a car at a low price point requires you build a large volume of them to hit profit margin. While we like to think we are a large sized group willing to spend cash, the sale of two door units over the last decade says otherwise. Heck, conduct a straw poll at your local grocery store for one hour, one afternoon. If you find 10-15% of that sampling that would be willing to buy a 2 door coupe, I'd be surprised. And within that group you will find even less that would be willing to drop the coin on a retro Charger. The only way of building specialty cars with limited interest is to crank the price way up to achieve margin with fewer units.

stripedelete

Quote from: HPP on November 23, 2009, 10:47:24 AM
It is an interesting thought, but  can't happen because of the scale of economy in manufacturing. To build a car at a low price point requires you build a large volume of them to hit profit margin. While we like to think we are a large sized group willing to spend cash, the sale of two door units over the last decade says otherwise. Heck, conduct a straw poll at your local grocery store for one hour, one afternoon. If you find 10-15% of that sampling that would be willing to buy a 2 door coupe, I'd be surprised. And within that group you will find even less that would be willing to drop the coin on a retro Charger. The only way of building specialty cars with limited interest is to crank the price way up to achieve margin with fewer units.
:2thumbs:

And don't split your retro market with two entries.  One at a time.

It's hard to evolve a car that has already evolved.  The Mustang II was Ford's way of saying, "we are all out of ideas". 

When the ponys get tired, introduce the retro charger.



375instroke

Quote from: bull on November 21, 2009, 03:04:09 PM

And still others forget about the late '70s/early '80s Challengers.


Isn't it funny that that car was worth more than a Hemi Challenger when it came out.

Charger440RDN

Quote from: bull on November 21, 2009, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: Charger440RDN on November 20, 2009, 08:37:44 PM
The original Challenger had a very short run which some people forget 70-74

And still others forget about the late '70s/early '80s Challengers.



             :eek:              :puke: :puke: :puke:

Troy

I'd buy a new car because it appeals to me - not because of what it's copied from. I'm personally tired of parking next to new Mustangs, Challengers, and Camaros with the window stickers and temporary tags still on them at shows and cruises.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Ghoste