Guess I'm the newest victim of photo theft.....

[Hemidoug]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-BARN-FIND-ALL-S-MATCH-383-A4-PLATINUM-IRID-CALL_W0QQitemZ230397417989QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item35a4c19a05

Guess who's burnout pic he used in his ad.....

[69bronzeT5]

Saw that before.....wasn't positive if it was your car or not....I couldn't see the Hemi emblem. It's getting pretty common unfortentley. I've seen on two cases in 1 week somebody on Cuda-Challenger get their car "for sale" on Ebay when they weren't selling it. I just saw a website last week where they were using Mr Angry in their rental car section. I sent Mike a heads up about it. They got rid of the picture though and replaced it with that black '68 sitting on the street.....

http://www.earlyrides.com/comingsoon.html

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Sucks dont it?

[moparstuart]

 that guy is here in missouri and doesnt have a great rep anyway .

  he is the one who  BB1  ed bought it rough 68 from .
 

[rt green]

well, at least he thought your burnout was nice

[69bronzeT5]

Sucks dont it?

You get perks

[ChgrSteve67]

Welcome to the club.

[teamroth]

Funny blurb taken from their words on the auction......

Spotting Fraud: On a few occasions overseas scam artists have used our images and descriptions to attempt to pass our cars off as their own and dupe buyers into sending deposits. Usually these deals are too good to be true, and for good reason. Scammers will typically not be able to answer questions about the car, have a very low "buy it now" price and will ask for a deposit. Once you send the deposit they are never heard from again. If you spot one of our vehicles or any other vehicle for sale with suspicious terms DO NOT send the alleged seller money and please notify us immediately. We will contact eBay security about any fraud we see, whether for our cars or others.

[SG1022]

THAT is a basket case

[tan top]

knew i seen that picture somewhere    think they got it from the burnout page over on moparts

good picture

[R2]

wow,,,that car is rough,,,,,,,

sounds like he wishes his car looked as good as yours,,,guess it's flattering,,,,but a bit bothersome he would use your pic.....
I would email the guy,,,,and tell him to remove it,,,,or report him to ebay.....

[Charger440RDN]

This isn't the first time he has used that picture in this add either, this car has been on ebay for a few months now off and on. How much will it cost to bring THIS car back from the dead? I'm guessing at least $20-25K

[BB1]

Old M&M at it again. 

[MGBRingo]

Here is what he said when I asked him about the picture.

That photo is to only show what that car would have looked like from the factory. I think anyone with a shred of common sense can identify this. If you're not buying, then please find something better to do with your time.

Thanks,
Shawn

[bull]

wow,,,that car is rough,,,,,,,

sounds like he wishes his car looked as good as yours,,,guess it's flattering,,,,but a bit bothersome he would use your pic.....
I would email the guy,,,,and tell him to remove it,,,,or report him to ebay.....

Or copyright the photo and tell him you get 10% commission on the sale price for helping him sell it. Actually after his A$$clown email demonstration above I'd just tell him to stick it and take the picture down.

[BB1]

Here is what he said when I asked him about the picture.

That photo is to only show what that car would have looked like from the factory. I think anyone with a shred of common sense can identify this. If you're not buying, then please find something better to do with your time.

Thanks,
Shawn

And it begins.... That shawn guy is a snake oil salesman, and so is his whole bondo crew. 

[Hemidoug]

This isn't the first time he has used that picture in this add either, this car has been on ebay for a few months now off and on. How much will it cost to bring THIS car back from the dead? I'm guessing at least $20-25K

Shit.....you guys are lucky. The parts that are available now a days is a God send. I did mine when none of this stuff was available. There was a big gulf between affordable and good! Now it's just the labor. That car would be a good car for a back half.....but as a creampuff it's days are way over....

He probably got it from my Car Domain profile....I'll think about it...I don't really see any harm and it's not worth the battle....

[RD]

doug, principle here i believe. this guy is a known f***stick and you should give it to him minus KY.

[SG1022]

doug, principle here i believe. this guy is a known f***stick and you should give it to him minus KY.

I concur

[wayfast1500]

If he were using my time/hardwork/money to advertise something to make him money and sent a smartass email like that to me especially after having a paragraph making him look like a hypocrite I would definatly go after it.  If I emailed him and he apologised and offered to take it down and didn't have that paragraph I'd most likely let it slide.

[MGBRingo]

I guesss it never ends with him.  Here is his follow up e-mail to me.  I ahve said very little to him other than he is using someones picture.

He like you is probably some asshole who I've never met and lives out his fantasy of possibly owning one of these cars through ranting on forums with the select few who do actually own what you only dream about owning. You spread your hateful nonsense in order to feel some sense of purpose. I get it. You're not the only person I've met during my time who acts out such childish behavior. For every nay sayer you send me, I can show you someone who truly appreciates what I've done for them. Here is one undeniable fact, I publish thousands upon thousands of photos of cars every single month so that buyers can truly understand and know what they are purchasing. I do this because I have been in that position where I have purchased cars from scum bags who have the same attitude as yourself. There is a reason I publish the amount of information that I do so that morons like you can never come back and make stupid comments such as "snake oil salesman". I'd bet money that guy has never even spoken to me let alone purchased anything. Just stick to what you're clearly focused on and that is gossiping with the rest of the girls at the beauty salon. When you can actually pull your fat ass away from your monitor for more then two seconds and make a buck, then give me a call. Until then, stop wasting my time.

Thanks,
Shawn

[Hemidoug]

OK...now I'm pissed....how does one contact Ebay about using false photos?

Here  is what I sent him via Ebay...

Hi,
I came across your auction from a friend. He recognized the car and thought I should have a look. Apparently you got a picture of my restored car mixed up with the pictures of that obvious basket case. I can understand the appreciation you may have for my vehicle, which was restored by me over a 10 year period, however I must request that you not associate a photo which I own, of a car which I own, with your auction. Please remove it ASAP.  

[Hemidoug]

OK...so he sent me this....

Doug,

While I appreciate you contacting me, I would request that you
give me a call so that we can better validate this. Your friend has been
emailing very disruptive and obnoxious emails so I'm not certain as to who
I am dealing with here. This wouldnt be the first time that I have dealt
with forum geeks who have too much time on their hands. Like I said, you
are welcome to call me any time and I will gladly discuss this with you and
if in fact you are the person who owns this car then I have no problems
with removing the photo. I would also like to add that I would do this out
of common courtesy. The photo was found online and is not copyrighted and
would fall under "public domain". I thought the photo complimented this
year and color scheme very nicely which was my reason for using it. Again
though, I would appreciate a call and we can discuss it
further.

Thanks,
Shawn
816.308.0351

-mmautoclassics




So I sent him this....

Thanks for your considerate response. I'd be willing to call, however I don't see how that would satisfy the validity of my claim. Maybe some youtube links would be a better to validate my claim. I can understand your desire to illustrate the color scheme and I agree it is one of the sharpest ones, however I must request that you find another photo of another car. Thank you for your understanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXIGLrGZiU8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnf4i-iecT8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMbpRO2Tmp0

Trust me....it's my car.




I'll post his responce...

[Hemidoug]

Here is what he wrote back...

Yea Doug, after I sent that email I went ahead and looked up your username. Your unwillingness to call is a bit troubling but none the less, I can see that it is your car. I will try and login through eBay to change it but again, I am only doing this out of common courtesy. I would appreciate it if you could tell whoever your friend is to stop contacting me. I get that he is bored and feels the need to play hall monitor but he needs to do that on his own time and keep me out of that loop. Like I stated, your photos are not copyrighted and they would essentially fall under public domain seeing as they are published all over the net. Beautiful car either way and it looks as if you did an excellent job.

Thanks,
Shawn


So I guess I'll just keep an eye on it....just don't hassel the guy for a while...if he doesn't honor my request we'll turn the dogs of war on him...

[BROCK]

Just curious:  What validity, if any, is there to the "public domain" comment?

I admit, I collect pictures - gigs n gigs worth.  But, not to repost or publish. 

i would never do what the seller did, either.  Glad he respected your wishes!

[AKcharger]

... When you can actually pull your fat ass away from your monitor for more then two seconds and make a buck, then give me a call. Until then, stop wasting my time.

Thanks,
Shawn

I'm sorry  Ringo...I actually thought that part was pretty funny

[Blown70]

I have met RINGO, as he is in Fargo, and let me tell you nothing but a very nice honest, and certainly would think he could buy any care "if" he wanted, he certainly is not punk kid trolling internet board........

Shawn while not know to me, purdy much proved with his comments what he is about and his character.....

[Charger440RDN]

Sounds to me like MM autoclassics is HLPAG-South, The only difference is MM doesn't sell shiny orange turds dressed as the General Lee 

[472 R/T SE]

Typical auction for those folks.  90 pictures of the car's body & 4 of the rear undercarriage.   Only thing missing is the beauty queen they usually use.

[Hemidoug]

Typical auction for those folks.  90 pictures of the car's body & 4 of the rear undercarriage.   Only thing missing is the beauty queen they usually use.

In this case the beauty queen was my car.....

[hemi68charger]

doug, principle here i believe. this guy is a known f***stick and you should give it to him minus KY.

I agree... But, just use a bat when you "give it to him"........... Not as messy and intimate..... 

[bsakal]

Wow that car is a piece! Not your car Doug! 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Just curious:  What validity, if any, is there to the "public domain" comment?

I admit, I collect pictures - gigs n gigs worth.  But, not to repost or publish. 

i would never do what the seller did, either.  Glad he respected your wishes!

Where's Ryan when you need him?  There is a thing called Internet Copyright Law.....you took the pic, you posted it, your car....its copyrighted  Public Domain crap went out in the 80's

Heres a few articles from a quick Google search

http://onlinepublishingresources.suite101.com/article.cfm/copyright_infringement_and_web_content

http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html

http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds2-2/weblaw.html

http://www.pdimages.com/law/10.htm

[squeakfinder]

Picture's still on the auction. 

Don't see why he needs a phone call. With caller I.D. that would just give him your number. In reading his emails he seems a bit moody.

[Hemidoug]

Picture's still on the auction. 

Don't see why he needs a phone call. With caller I.D. that would just give him your number. In reading his emails he seems a bit moody.

Exactly the reason I DIDN'T call....don't want the scumbag finding my home address.

[Blown70]

Picture's still on the auction. 

Don't see why he needs a phone call. With caller I.D. that would just give him your number. In reading his emails he seems a bit moody.

Exactly the reason I DIDN'T call....don't want the scumbag finding my home address.

if you dial *67 (not sure if that is right) before you call his number it will not show up on his ID.... please check what the * number is though for your phone area. 

Tom

[The70RT]

 

Just curious:  What validity, if any, is there to the "public domain" comment?

I admit, I collect pictures - gigs n gigs worth.  But, not to repost or publish.  

i would never do what the seller did, either.  Glad he respected your wishes!

Where's Ryan when you need him?  There is a thing called Internet Copyright Law.....you took the pic, you posted it, your car....its copyrighted  Public Domain crap went out in the 80's

Heres a few articles from a quick Google search

http://onlinepublishingresources.suite101.com/article.cfm/copyright_infringement_and_web_content

http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html

http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds2-2/weblaw.html

http://www.pdimages.com/law/10.htm

Yeah call the idiot and tell him about what Chris posted. I wish Chris ran the ClassicOldsmobile.com site. Some asshat still has my pics under his user I.D. over there. I only posted 4 pics in the gallery and he put his user name under all my pics as if it is his car. Both of us are showing the same pics. I contacted the admin and they never responded and it's been a year or so. I then posted a thread about it and everyone didn't understand why I was pissed.

[MGBRingo]

This is really pretty funny to me.  I mean for the way he reacted to my simple statment that he was using a friend's picture.

I did not abuse him like he did me.  Believe me, I don't operate that way.  I am 61 years old and know a little about Chargers having owned mine since 1981.  I priced a brand new one in 1970 when I graduated from college, before he was born, I am sure.

His reaction does tell me a LOT about his character.  I would never buy anything from him and I hope none of you would either.  If he reacts to my simple question like that, think about how he would react to a problem you had with what he sold you.  He wouldn't care about customer service. 

I am done with him and won't stir up any more dust.   

Good luck on getting your picture removed.  Let me know if I can help any more.       

Ron

[Hemidoug]

Whelp...had to report his ass to EBay...he couldn't do this the easy way, so now we do this the hard way! You guys can hassle the crap out of him now!!!!! Have fun!