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1968 Barn find. original Black!

Started by XS29J, November 01, 2009, 06:17:39 AM

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XS29J

My son wants to  put a Black top and black interior or Black with Red butt stripe and interior...It is original Black with White top and GREEN interior....odd.

tan top

 :o   unusual  combo ,   :scratchchin:  think if it were mine would return it to stock color combo  :yesnod: , but having said that , i went with a black top on mine  :shruggy::think:
 
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NHCharger

We need more details. BB or SB? Matching #'s?  More pics please.

If it's a SB or missing the drivetrain I'd say do what you want.
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moparguy01

if it were mine and a #'s car I would make it original just because its a weird combo.

bull

Quote from: moparguy01 on November 01, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
if it were mine and a #'s car I would make it original just because its a weird combo.

It's not a huge deal for someone to change out the top so I'd be more tempted to go with a black top myself. I'd keep the interior the original color though.

dkn1997

Quote from: bull on November 01, 2009, 09:00:08 AM
Quote from: moparguy01 on November 01, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
if it were mine and a #'s car I would make it original just because its a weird combo.

It's not a huge deal for someone to change out the top so I'd be more tempted to go with a black top myself. I'd keep the interior the original color though.

:iagree:
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dodgecharger-fan

Quote from: dkn1997 on November 01, 2009, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: bull on November 01, 2009, 09:00:08 AM
Quote from: moparguy01 on November 01, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
if it were mine and a #'s car I would make it original just because its a weird combo.

It's not a huge deal for someone to change out the top so I'd be more tempted to go with a black top myself. I'd keep the interior the original color though.

:iagree:
+1 That's the route I'm going with my 69 Charger. The original top was dark green. I'm going with white. Everything else will go back to the stock colour combo: F8 with a white interior.

Troy

Cool! Another black 68 with a white top. Mine has a white interior though - I'm not sure I'd keep the green stuff. What are the rest of the specs?

Troy
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rav440

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4cruzin

Thats a cool find for sure and a unusual color combo.  I always wonder what people were thinking when they order this stuff?   :silly: 
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Brock Samson

Yup, all of the above - I'm sure overall I'd want a 3xBlk too.. or maybe a red gut... but more pics and I wonder if you'd share what it set you back?...  :shruggy: and the circumstances of it's comming to light...  :popcrn:

Silver R/T

green interior...eww. All black sounds good to me
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Mike DC

 
IMHO the original green interiors had to be the result of illicit drug use.  In my mind they represent an exception to any & all guidelines about preserving originality. 



jaak

Man everyone dogs green interiors... I think I'm the only one who likes 'em. I know I will probably never have another 2nd gen, but I'd like to have a White 68 with green vinyl top and green interior (guy I know had a car like that).
Anyways good luck with your project, and looking foward to seeing your progress.

Jason

Mike DC

 
I don't even hate green on these cars, so much as I hate the particular shades of green that the factory picked in those days.



I used to have a mid-1990s Jeep Cherokee with a shade of dark metallic green that I liked so much more.  The shade was mostly green but it had a dash of deep blue thrown into it.  It didn't look so much like olive drab camo green. 


Blown70

Nice I am guessing H, is getting in to mopars of his own now... SWEET..... :2thumbs:

The70RT

I bet they didn't make that many combo's. But yeah triple black would be the what most want.
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68RT440

id keep the odd combo. thats what im doing on mine. mines a 68 r/t, original black with green top/interior. not the greatest combo but sure is unusual
1968 Charger R/T, matching numbers 440/727, black with green top and interior, currently getting restored by me

bull

So, any more pics of the car? What kind of shape is it in overall?

nakita7

Quote from: jaak on November 01, 2009, 02:26:02 PM
Man everyone dogs green interiors... I think I'm the only one who likes 'em. I know I will probably never have another 2nd gen, but I'd like to have a White 68 with green vinyl top and green interior (guy I know had a car like that).
Anyways good luck with your project, and looking foward to seeing your progress.

Jason

You're not the only one. Love green interiors, but then, green is my favourite colour, so maybe I'm biased.

With this car, tough call. I love them stock, but then, certain combos are just not cool IMHO, and I think that's the case with this one. Change it up to something cool and let the next owner 'restore' it in the future.  :Twocents:

Alaskan_TA

I LOVE the oddball color combination cars. IMO, if you change it, you will blend in with all the others. Keep it unique.  :cheers:

XS29J

Put some stock 14" road wheels on to get rid of scubs..   

XS29J

The car is unbeleivably clean, nice floors and trunk to. Going to look for Build sheet today, nothing in the back seat....

XS29J

It is a 383-2bbl column auto, PS, AM radio. Think we are going to just do the interior and vynil top and keep the original paint for now. Don't need to get into another resto that seems to never get done. I like looking/driving cars with original paint anyway, you don't have to worry about Dings/dents and scratches. The photo of the tail panal show a different color between taillights?  Is it supposed to be FLAT BLACK???

XS29J


hemigeno

Quote from: XS29J on November 02, 2009, 07:21:59 AM
The photo of the tail panal show a different color between taillights?  Is it supposed to be FLAT BLACK???

Should be Organosol, which is a rough textured black AFAIK.

Charger440RDN

Quote from: XS29J on November 02, 2009, 07:21:59 AM
It is a 383-2bbl column auto, PS, AM radio. Think we are going to just do the interior and vynil top and keep the original paint for now. Don't need to get into another resto that seems to never get done. I like looking/driving cars with original paint anyway, you don't have to worry about Dings/dents and scratches. The photo of the tail panal show a different color between taillights?  Is it supposed to be FLAT BLACK???

I agree it's a lot more fun to have the car on the road than to have it sitting for 3 or 4 years for a resto. Nice charger  :2thumbs:

Blown70

Cannot wait to see that screaming up and down 17    :2thumbs:  I may have to come investigate that one further.... :scratchchin:

472 R/T SE

Quote from: XS29J on November 01, 2009, 06:17:39 AM
My son wants to  put a Black top and black interior or Black with Red butt stripe and interior...It is original Black with White top and GREEN interior....odd.


I would walk wheel right past a row of red, blue & black rides' to check out that car if it was brought back to original color combo.

Like both my cars, all black Chargers are a dime a dozen.   :Twocents: It would be original & unique restored the way it came from the factory. 

bull

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on November 02, 2009, 07:28:45 PM
Quote from: XS29J on November 01, 2009, 06:17:39 AM
My son wants to  put a Black top and black interior or Black with Red butt stripe and interior...It is original Black with White top and GREEN interior....odd.


I would walk wheel right past a row of red, blue & black rides' to check out that car if it was brought back to original color combo.

Like both my cars, all black Chargers are a dime a dozen.   :Twocents: It would be original & unique restored the way it came from the factory. 

Well, I know what you're saying but the only time I typically see any 2nd gen Chargers is at Mopar-only car shows so I don't know if "dime-a-dozen" really applies. I'm happy just to see one.

472 R/T SE



Curtis, I just think the color combo is over done with Chargers' and if you would have painted your car the factory shade my money says you'd agree with me.  Maybe if you went to more shows than what Oregon has to offer. 

If you notice I said "Like my cars".  It's a rare occasion to see a black or red car that came that way from the factory.   :Twocents:
The minute I typed "dime a dozen" I knew you would be the one to say some thing before the night was over. 

My opinion, I don't like some of yours either.    ;)

XS29J

  The Flip side of the black 68 above..
1969 White with Black top and BLUE interior...

bull

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on November 02, 2009, 09:56:41 PM


Curtis, I just think the color combo is over done with Chargers' and if you would have painted your car the factory shade my money says you'd agree with me.  Maybe if you went to more shows than what Oregon has to offer.  

If you notice I said "Like my cars".  It's a rare occasion to see a black or red car that came that way from the factory.   :Twocents:
The minute I typed "dime a dozen" I knew you would be the one to say some thing before the night was over.  

My opinion, I don't like some of yours either.    ;)

It's the other way around. That is, if I agreed with you I would have painted it green. ;) Certain things are popular for a reason, mainly because a lot of people like them. But then if I really wanted to run with the crowd I would have purchased a Camaro or Rustang. By that measure I don't consider a black Charger to be running with the crowd. In the end we all get to do what we want with the cars we own.

Blown70

Quote from: XS29J on November 02, 2009, 10:42:17 PM
 The Flip side of the black 68 above..
1969 White with Black top and BLUE interior...

:popcrn: :popcrn:  You on a car buying spree,  details...... :drool5:

XS29J


tan top

Quote from: Blown70 on November 02, 2009, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: XS29J on November 02, 2009, 10:42:17 PM
 The Flip side of the black 68 above..
1969 White with Black top and BLUE interior...

:popcrn: :popcrn:  You on a car buying spree,  details...... :drool5:

nother  three color combo :coolgleamA:
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Blown70

Quote from: XS29J on November 02, 2009, 11:48:30 PM
its a trade...


Really been thinking about what car I have to make into 'tona clone... maybe I should just buy another one..... :shruggy:  you got any..... :D

XS29J8

Quote from: hemigeno on November 02, 2009, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: XS29J on November 02, 2009, 07:21:59 AM
The photo of the tail panal show a different color between taillights?  Is it supposed to be FLAT BLACK???

Should be Organosol, which is a rough textured black AFAIK.

I always thought 68 Chargers used a coat of black unbuffed lacquer  paint on the tail panel, 69 and later used the organosol ???

Great find XS29J!

XS
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68charger383

I'd switch out the original interior to black or white. I'd probably go with the white!

I think people will see the green interior and just guess that you painted your green car black.  :lol:

Good luck with both cars.
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hemigeno

Quote from: XS29J8 on November 04, 2009, 09:50:44 AM
I always thought 68 Chargers used a coat of black unbuffed lacquer  paint on the tail panel, 69 and later used the organosol ???


Got me thinking there, so I dug out the Engineering Illustration for 1968 tailpanel treatments.  That graphic shows Organosol inside the trim boundary - except for the St. Louis plant which used a low gloss enamel instead.  Similar to what they did in '69.

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Quote from: hemigeno on November 04, 2009, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: XS29J8 on November 04, 2009, 09:50:44 AM
I always thought 68 Chargers used a coat of black unbuffed lacquer  paint on the tail panel, 69 and later used the organosol ???


Got me thinking there, so I dug out the Engineering Illustration for 1968 tailpanel treatments.  That graphic shows Organosol inside the trim boundary - except for the St. Louis plant which used a low gloss enamel instead.  Similar to what they did in '69.

[/thread hijack]


Agreed. I'm guessing that it would not be a problem to post a partial photo of the engineering illustrations in question. If it's protected then please delete.

Dan
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hemigeno

Quote from: Dans 68 on November 04, 2009, 11:04:57 AM

Agreed. I'm guessing that it would not be a problem to post a partial photo of the engineering illustrations in question. If it's protected then please delete.

Dan

Thanks for posting that, Dan.  That's exactly what I found too.  

I don't think such documents are overly protected by Chrysler when isolated things pop up like this, but I heard from Barry Washington (DC.com member Alaskan T/A and also the guru behind Hamtramck-Historical.com) a year or so ago that Chrysler still considers the Engineering Illustrations like that to be their copyrighted information.  His website had uploaded a TON of great info just like that and was asked to take it down by Chrysler's barrister department.  

If you took the pic or made the scan, I certainly have no problem with it being posted although that's still Troy's ultimate decision.  If it's watermarked and swiped from another website (I'm guilty of that too, so not trying to preach here), it's better to get permission and cite the source when posting - even if the watermark has been carved out.

Thanks again for posting it - I didn't have the time/opportunity to do so myself.

:2thumbs:

Boy, we're really getting off topic here!!!   :P

Dans 68

Quote from: hemigeno on November 04, 2009, 11:26:57 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on November 04, 2009, 11:04:57 AM

Agreed. I'm guessing that it would not be a problem to post a partial photo of the engineering illustrations in question. If it's protected then please delete.

Dan

Thanks for posting that, Dan.  That's exactly what I found too.  

I don't think such documents are overly protected by Chrysler when isolated things pop up like this, but I heard from Barry Washington (DC.com member Alaskan T/A and also the guru behind Hamtramck-Historical.com) a year or so ago that Chrysler still considers the Engineering Illustrations like that to be their copyrighted information.  His website had uploaded a TON of great info just like that and was asked to take it down by Chrysler's barrister department.  

If you took the pic or made the scan, I certainly have no problem with it being posted although that's still Troy's ultimate decision.  If it's watermarked and swiped from another website (I'm guilty of that too, so not trying to preach here), it's better to get permission and cite the source when posting - even if the watermark has been carved out.

Thanks again for posting it - I didn't have the time/opportunity to do so myself.

:2thumbs:

Boy, we're really getting off topic here!!!   :P

Yep, I swiped it from Barry's site a long time ago for my own edification.  ;)  Barry is a good man. And it will be nice once all the Engineering Drawings get into print.

And going off topic is sometimes how most of the educating gets done.  :icon_smile_cool:

Dan
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Alaskan_TA

Well, thanks for the mention guys, but I did not have any '68 Charger drawings.


Chrysler sold the reproduction rights to all the drawings, that is why they asked me to pull them from HH. They did not come right out & tell me that at the time, but it would have been nice to know.

In essence, they did not want to have the folks with the reproduction rights competing with a "free" source.

Barry

Dans 68

I would have sweared on a Bible you did, Barry.  :scratchchin:  Hmm, I will have to think hard on where I got the image then. And you don't get mentioned enough in my mind. Thank you for all the good work!

Dan
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XS29J8

Quote from: hemigeno on November 04, 2009, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: XS29J8 on November 04, 2009, 09:50:44 AM
I always thought 68 Chargers used a coat of black unbuffed lacquer  paint on the tail panel, 69 and later used the organosol ???


Got me thinking there, so I dug out the Engineering Illustration for 1968 tailpanel treatments.  That graphic shows Organosol inside the trim boundary - except for the St. Louis plant which used a low gloss enamel instead.  Similar to what they did in '69.

[/thread hijack]

Thanks for the great info Geno and Dan, can't argue with documentation like this! I must have had all St Louis cars thru the years as they all were a very thin layer of flat paint on the tails. The organasol that Rich Costello in St Louis sprayed on my Charger is way to textured compared to the original 68 Chargers I have owned thru the years. Anytime I touched up the tail panel, we always used lacquer but this was in the early and mid 70's...............of course we all thought acrylic enamel or lacquer was the bees knees back then heh heh

Steve (also sorry for the hi-jack) :2thumbs:






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xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: Dans 68 on November 05, 2009, 12:19:55 AM
I would have sweared on a Bible you did, Barry.  :scratchchin:  Hmm, I will have to think hard on where I got the image then. And you don't get mentioned enough in my mind. Thank you for all the good work!

Dan

The source of your image may not want "credit"... I have it too in my archives, but it was provided to me with an understanding it was for my own documentation.  If/when the documents are reproduced, I will gladly buy a legit copy...

XS
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