Old Dukes car found in rubble.

[1969chargerrtse]

I saw this in my Hot Rod mag for this month.
Neat to see how Chargers are still considered something not for sale at any price.  Not to many cars hold that title especially worn out beat up  ones.  

[Brock Samson]

 looks to have a rear side marker... 

[Chris G.]

That pic is about as believable as balloon boy crossing the Denver sky.

[charger_fan_4ever]

Reminds me of this guy locally who has had a fy1 70 r/t sitting(rotting) away in his back yard since around 88-89. My brother and I both asked him numerous times over the years about selling it. Got so the last time we asked around 02 he said he'd put it in his will to let us have first chance. About 3-4 years ago when prices were pretty much at the peak the owner told another guy we know that the rotten R/t was worth around 100k as it sat. 

I've never actually seen it in person cause he never wants to show anyone now. Brother saw it in 89-90 and it already had rotted 1/4's,floors,trunk,roof. I'm sure frame rails are toast by now. He thinks its worth all this money and won't even lift it up off the ground, nevermind putting it in his barn.

[c00nhunterjoe]

i doubt thats a series car, the letters are monstrous

[skip68]

i doubt thats a series car, the letters are monstrous

     Those are numbers...not letters......     

[MoparManJim]

i doubt thats a series car, the letters are monstrous

     Those are numbers...not letters......     

He can't tell them apart 

[skip68]

Dam hillbilly's.   

[Todd Wilson]

i doubt thats a series car, the letters are monstrous

     Those are numbers...not letters......     

[Neal_J]

That pic is about as believable as balloon boy crossing the Denver sky.

I too call Fake.

[Mike DC]

 
Not sure what all the fuss is about. 



I don't see any attempts to claim it's a real TV series car (it isn't). 

And I don't see any reason this can't be a real pic/story.

[1969chargerrtse]

 
Not sure what all the fuss is about.  



I don't see any attempts to claim it's a real TV series car (it isn't).  

And I don't see any reason this can't be a real pic/story.

Thank you. That was the point, a interesting story about a 69 Charger is all it's saying.  It was just a blurb among other odd stories.  Again a great point about how loved 69 Chargers are.

[The70RT]

It's not for sale at any price so lets throw it outside and pile crap on it and use it for a shelf   If it had sat somewhere that long there would be a ton of dust on it too.

[Neal_J]

And I don't see any reason this can't be a real pic/story.

Here's one thought:  if the building in which the car was stored had falling in, woundn't you remove all the crap off the car BEFORE moving it?   I see no evidence that there was a previously a building about where the car sits in the picture.  So to me, this suggests the car was moved THEN crap added for extra effect.  I'm saying that's a staged photo.

Heck, this may be a real car in barn story. However, the breathless write-up and staged photo suggest are meant to suggest that someone found a genuine GL in a barn ("not for sale at any price").  

That dog, as they say, don't hunt.

[buie1289]

It's not for sale at any price so lets throw it outside and pile crap on it and use it for a shelf   If it had sat somewhere that long there would be a ton of dust on it too.

As far as shelves go, it's a pretty nice one. 

[Mike DC]

Imagine for a sec that the car is not a GL and it's not in a magazine blurb.  Maybe it's just an old Monaco or something. 

Would you guys still be so quick to call the story false? 





I just don't see what's so questionable here. 

It's an old Charger that's seeing the light of day for the first time in decades.  They often come out looking something like that.
         

[Mikesmoparperformance]

Cool Find!!

[teamroth]

i doubt thats a series car, the letters are monstrous

    Those are numbers...not letters......    

haha! good one chuck!   (smartass)

For the record it doesn't say the building fell down around/on it. It could be believed that there was a bunch of crap piled on it like we've seen numerous times and they just pulled it out as such no?

[69bronzeT5]

There's a bobcat in the background that could be used for tearing down a building or something

[1969chargerrtse]

Imagine for a sec that the car is not a GL and it's not in a magazine blurb.  Maybe it's just an old Monaco or something. 

Would you guys still be so quick to call the story false? 





I just don't see what's so questionable here. 

It's an old Charger that's seeing the light of day for the first time in decades.  They often come out looking something like that.
         

Again thank you for the common sense.  This is almost funny.  Almost. 

[mike r]

Hey guys,

              Could it be that is a stolen car? The thief had his fun years ago and ditched it in an old barn. Its not for sale at any price , because it cant be sold, its a stolen car    Or maybe like you said, it could be a scam. By saying its not for sale at any price only makes some people offer more $, some people think (everything has a price)

anyway, just a thought 

[MoparManJim]

There's a bobcat in the background that could be used for tearing down a building or something

Why is it that when something said, even typed in a mag, people always wonder off from what is really being said. It clearly says the building was falling in and being torn down which means they pulled the car out before it got damage  .  Maybe the person just doesn't want to sell it so that is why there for there is no price on it. When people read stuff for some reason they just start assuming things. When you read something, don't try to decode it just read it the way it is writen. 

Now, for the record, this car looks like one I saw in a mag back in 1998 to 1999 in a car mad and the place that had that car that I remember was Midwest Car Exchange. Those numbers on that car on here and the one I remember seeing in the mag back then look like the same numbers though.

[69bronzeT5]

There's a bobcat in the background that could be used for tearing down a building or something

Why is it that when something said, even typed in a mag, people always wonder off from what is really being said. It clearly says the building was falling in and being torn down which means they pulled the car out before it got damage  .  Maybe the person just doesn't want to sell it so that is why there for there is no price on it. When people read stuff for some reason they just start assuming things. When you read something, don't try to decode it just read it the way it is writen.  

Now, for the record, this car looks like one I saw in a mag back in 1998 to 1999 in a car mad and the place that had that car that I remember was Midwest Car Exchange. Those numbers on that car on here and the one I remember seeing in the mag back then look like the same numbers though.

I just don't see why people think it's fake/staged. That's why I mentioned the bobcat....the story about the building and stuff could tie together with the bobcat.

[The70RT]

There's a bobcat in the background that could be used for tearing down a building or something

Why is it that when something said, even typed in a mag, people always wonder off from what is really being said. It clearly says the building was falling in and being torn down which means they pulled the car out before it got damage  .  Maybe the person just doesn't want to sell it so that is why there for there is no price on it. When people read stuff for some reason they just start assuming things. When you read something, don't try to decode it just read it the way it is writen. 

Now, for the record, this car looks like one I saw in a mag back in 1998 to 1999 in a car mad and the place that had that car that I remember was Midwest Car Exchange. Those numbers on that car on here and the one I remember seeing in the mag back then look like the same numbers though.

Ok then let's go by what the article states - The car has been in storage for 20 years.

[MoparManJim]

Yes, lets go by what the article states, because some of you all are jumping to the assuming opinion because the car isn't for sale at any cost. 

Where does it say it was stolen or could have been stolen at? To what I can see it doesn't state or even mentions that at all  .

When I said before about my on teh record about the other car I saw in a car mag a decade ago, I said the numbers look the same, I didn't say it was the same car both only the numbers look the same though. Let me see here  the tv show went off the air in 1986, this car set for 20 years, and it's 09 now would be it sat from 1989. 4 years after the show went off the air.   

There's a bobcat in the background that could be used for tearing down a building or something

Why is it that when something said, even typed in a mag, people always wonder off from what is really being said. It clearly says the building was falling in and being torn down which means they pulled the car out before it got damage  .  Maybe the person just doesn't want to sell it so that is why there for there is no price on it. When people read stuff for some reason they just start assuming things. When you read something, don't try to decode it just read it the way it is writen. 

Now, for the record, this car looks like one I saw in a mag back in 1998 to 1999 in a car mad and the place that had that car that I remember was Midwest Car Exchange. Those numbers on that car on here and the one I remember seeing in the mag back then look like the same numbers though.

Ok then let's go by what the article states - The car has been in storage for 20 years.

[Forza]

Damn, some people will argue over just about anything.

[MoparManJim]

Damn, some people will argue over just about anything.

Who's argueing? 

[carolina charger]

 I'm in the rolling hills of NC and have never saw or heard of that car. Not saying its not a true story.

[rav440]

Damn, some people will argue over just about anything.

what do you mean ? almost anything ? or about anything in general mostly ?

[Charger440RDN]

Not for sale at any price? That's never true, everything has a price. If Donald Trump offered him $500,000 would it still not be for sale at any price? 

[Steve P.]

When I was a teenager I took care of a neighbors yard. She was rather old and alone. In the back yard was a 57' Belair rag top. The car had been there for years untouched. She had no garage or I would have made a point of getting it inside. She told me the car belonged to her son and that he was in the service. It had been many years since he had been home or even mentioned the car. I tried like hell to be it's new owner for about three years, but he would not budge. He said he wanted to restore the car once he was out. One night I heard fire trucks screaming through the neighborhood and ran outside. It was her house completely engulfed in flames and I watched a fireman carry her out through the front door. She later died at the hospital. A few days later I saw a car in front of the house and a guy standing there shaking his head. Figuring it was her son I walked over to offer my condolences. Yes, it was him. After a few minutes of BSing he asked if I was the Steve taking care of his mom. I said yes, He nodded his head toward the back yard and asked if I still wanted the Chevy. It had burned to the ground also.

My point is that we sometimes have no control over things and to bicker about these things. Sometimes resistance is futile.

[1969chargerrtse]

When I was a teenager I took care of a neighbors yard. She was rather old and alone. In the back yard was a 57' Belair rag top. The car had been there for years untouched. She had no garage or I would have made a point of getting it inside. She told me the car belonged to her son and that he was in the service. It had been many years since he had been home or even mentioned the car. I tried like hell to be it's new owner for about three years, but he would not budge. He said he wanted to restore the car once he was out. One night I heard fire trucks screaming through the neighborhood and ran outside. It was her house completely engulfed in flames and I watched a fireman carry her out through the front door. She later died at the hospital. A few days later I saw a car in front of the house and a guy standing there shaking his head. Figuring it was her son I walked over to offer my condolences. Yes, it was him. After a few minutes of BSing he asked if I was the Steve taking care of his mom. I said yes, He nodded his head toward the back yard and asked if I still wanted the Chevy. It had burned to the ground also.

My point is that we sometimes have no control over things and to bicker about these things. Sometimes resistance is futile.

Subject change time.  There was this silver 57 Chevy conv down the road from me sitting on a guys front lawn for years.  I would always stop by and ask if he would sell it.  Original owner, all complete.  I got "no" for years.  Many years later I ran into his son.  I sked if his dad ever parted with it?  He said yes.  I asked how much?  300.00

I have no point.

[mikepmcs]

That pic is about as believable as balloon boy crossing the Denver sky.

That made me giggle and was exactly my first thought when I saw the first pic and mag blurb.  My only offering on this subject is I don't buy the "not for sale at any price."

Now if you'll excuse me I need to go pile a bunch of debri on my car and call the Kennebec Journal. 
Daddy needs a new pair a shoes, you feel me? 

[tan top]

   never know what still hiding out there waiting to be discovered 

[Mike DC]

          
 
Hey guys, look at this liar's photo.

                               

Detroit never built any cars with a tree-through-the-hood option.  They also never sold any cars with a rust/patina finish like that.  And they never sold any cars without a hood either.  So this pic is obviously a fake.  The owner must have photoshopped it or staged it himself.  

I mean, geez .  .  .  I don't know why he wants us to believe that tree could take root & sprout right out of the engine block like that.  

[bull]

Of course it's real. Who would ever stage a fake photo? You can't. It's impossible.

[The70RT]

Ok, so the story is true. Now all he has to do is get John Snyder to authenticate it. Maybe a quick wash and it's Barret Jackson material. Some idiot would then give a life savings for it....whoops I forgot it's priceless  

[Brock Lee]

I would be more inclined to believe the building falling down on it story if there was a trace of damage. I once had the lense on my garage door opener fall on my car and it dinged it. Timbers falling should have cracked some glass or left some dents.

[Mike DC]

Ok, so the story is true. Now all he has to do is get John Snyder to authenticate it. Maybe a quick wash and it's Barret Jackson material. Some idiot would then give a life savings for it....whoops I forgot it's priceless

Where did anyone, at any time, ever imply that this was a Warner Bros GL?  

It doesn't challenge the accuracy of the story to tear down a claim that was never originally made.  

I would be more inclined to believe the building falling down on it story if there was a trace of damage. I once had the lense on my garage door opener fall on my car and it dinged it. Timbers falling should have cracked some glass or left some dents.

Did the guy claim the stuff on the car was the result of it LITERALLY falling onto the car while being stored?  He says it was in an abandoned building that was falling in.  That's all.

Maybe it fell through a hole that was gradually growing over the years.  Maybe the roof was gradually sagging down to the level of the car.  Maybe half the stuff was already lying on the car and the other half was piled on there temporarily in the process of moving other things right next to it.  People use the horizontal surfaces of cars for temporary counter-top-space every day. 


Why is everyone so stubbornly refusing to just use a little common sense when viewing this pic ? ! ?  


   

[brianz426]

When I was a teenager I took care of a neighbors yard. She was rather old and alone. In the back yard was a 57' Belair rag top. The car had been there for years untouched. She had no garage or I would have made a point of getting it inside. She told me the car belonged to her son and that he was in the service. It had been many years since he had been home or even mentioned the car. I tried like hell to be it's new owner for about three years, but he would not budge. He said he wanted to restore the car once he was out. One night I heard fire trucks screaming through the neighborhood and ran outside. It was her house completely engulfed in flames and I watched a fireman carry her out through the front door. She later died at the hospital. A few days later I saw a car in front of the house and a guy standing there shaking his head. Figuring it was her son I walked over to offer my condolences. Yes, it was him. After a few minutes of BSing he asked if I was the Steve taking care of his mom. I said yes, He nodded his head toward the back yard and asked if I still wanted the Chevy. It had burned to the ground also.

My point is that we sometimes have no control over things and to bicker about these things. Sometimes resistance is futile.

Subject change time.  There was this silver 57 Chevy conv down the road from me sitting on a guys front lawn for years.  I would always stop by and ask if he would sell it.  Original owner, all complete.  I got "no" for years.  Many years later I ran into his son.  I sked if his dad ever parted with it?  He said yes.  I asked how much?  300.00

I have no point.

Subject change +1
I have a very similar story about a 1970 Purple 383 Magnum 4spd. Conv Challenger (not an R/T). This rare car sat on the street in front of a guys house for about 5 or 6 years while 3 crappy Volkswagens sat covered in his driveway. Nice guy, I talked to him 4 or 5 times about the car. Not for sale, it just kept deteriorating. Then one day the car was gone. I knocked on the door (he remembered me) and asked him what happened to the Challenger. "Oh, a guy in a tow truck came by one day, and wanted to buy it to restore for his daughter (car was purple) so I sold it to him." When he told me he sold it for $500.00 I was too upset to ask him why he didn't call me. I just nodded and walked away.

[bull]

Ok, so the story is true. Now all he has to do is get John Snyder to authenticate it. Maybe a quick wash and it's Barret Jackson material. Some idiot would then give a life savings for it....whoops I forgot it's priceless

Where did anyone, at any time, ever imply that this was a Warner Bros GL?  

It doesn't challenge the accuracy of the story to tear down a claim that was never originally made.  

I would be more inclined to believe the building falling down on it story if there was a trace of damage. I once had the lense on my garage door opener fall on my car and it dinged it. Timbers falling should have cracked some glass or left some dents.

Did the guy claim the stuff on the car was the result of it LITERALLY falling onto the car while being stored?  He says it was in an abandoned building that was falling in.  That's all.

Maybe it fell through a hole that was gradually growing over the years.  Maybe the roof was gradually sagging down to the level of the car.  Maybe half the stuff was already lying on the car and the other half was piled on there temporarily in the process of moving other things right next to it.  People use the horizontal surfaces of cars for temporary counter-top-space every day. 


Why is everyone so stubbornly refusing to just use a little common sense when viewing this pic ? ! ?  


   

Why are you stubbornly refusing to consider that it might be staged?

[The70RT]

Ok, so the story is true. Now all he has to do is get John Snyder to authenticate it. Maybe a quick wash and it's Barret Jackson material. Some idiot would then give a life savings for it....whoops I forgot it's priceless

Where did anyone, at any time, ever imply that this was a Warner Bros GL?  

It doesn't challenge the accuracy of the story to tear down a claim that was never originally made.  

I would be more inclined to believe the building falling down on it story if there was a trace of damage. I once had the lense on my garage door opener fall on my car and it dinged it. Timbers falling should have cracked some glass or left some dents.

Did the guy claim the stuff on the car was the result of it LITERALLY falling onto the car while being stored?  He says it was in an abandoned building that was falling in.  That's all.

Maybe it fell through a hole that was gradually growing over the years.  Maybe the roof was gradually sagging down to the level of the car.  Maybe half the stuff was already lying on the car and the other half was piled on there temporarily in the process of moving other things right next to it.  People use the horizontal surfaces of cars for temporary counter-top-space every day. 


Why is everyone so stubbornly refusing to just use a little common sense when viewing this pic ? ! ?  


   

Why are you stubbornly refusing to consider that it might be staged?

I think we know he submitted the article now 

[Mike DC]

    
I'd never do a GL with 01's like that.    

     

[Tilar]

If you boys don't play nice I'm going to make you sit on the couch and hold hands till you can get along.    

The story may be true, but the picture is definitely staged. It looks awful clean to be sitting that long, the crap all over the top and leaning up against the sides when it's apparent the car hasn't been sitting in that spot for very long. Yeah I think it coulda been in a building they tore down. Maybe they sprayed the car off and put all that stuff on it to show the situation it was in. And it may have belonged to someones family member that is now dead and gone, which might explain why it's not for sale at any price.

[1969chargerrtse]

Boy do I miss the days you could delete a post.  You people are silly.

[Mike DC]

 
It just fails me to understand how a bunch of crap piled onto a musclecar signals a staged pic. 

This same logic would hardly allow a single picture in the entire "cars in barns" thing to qualify as legit. 

[NHCharger]

If I had removed that car from the barn I would have removed all the debris off it first to prevent further damage. That's probably why some think it's staged.
Maybe someone should check one of the G/L sites to see if there is anymore info available on this car. Hate to see this degenerate into a moparts type slap fight

[1969chargerrtse]

Someone should send this thread link to Hot Rod mag for next months letter section. They would get a kick out if it.  I didn't think twice about real or not real when I first saw it.

[MoparManJim]

Well Mike, all these people on here love to do is just jump and start assuming things  because a photo doesn't look right to them. I have seen cars being pulled out of buildings that wa falling in, and you would not belive the stuff that reamined on them or how the car wasn't all that dirty like some may thing it would have been. Just because a car sits for awhile in a building with maybe a hold in the building roof doesn't mean the car would be dirty. Just the flat areas like the hood, roof, truck area , might be dusty and alittle parts of stuff on them. 

So people can assume all they that want, but I have red what the article said and I'm not going to assume nothing. 

 
It just fails me to understand how a bunch of crap piled onto a musclecar signals a staged pic. 

This same logic would hardly allow a single picture in the entire "cars in barns" thing to qualify as legit. 

[bull]

This thread is pretty comical. How to Get Worked Up Over Nothing 101.

[Mike DC]

   
Exactly.  This is reaching Jerry Seinfeld levels of "much ado about nothing."



I don't even care whether the pic was really staged or not.  It's the collective reaction of the crowd that I find amazing.

[0X01B8]

I wonder if this photo could be a clue to a larger mystery / conspiracy that's totally under-reported by the mainstream media.   See, Denver Pyle's brain has turned up missing at the Arizona cryolab where he's frozen.  Ted Williams and Bo Shembeckler's brains are missing too.

I want some answers, dammit.

[bull]

There seems to be a lot of brains missing these days.

[Mike DC]

 


You might be onto something there.  


When I watch Dukes the GL seems to change from shot-to-shot in ways that physics don't allow.  Sometimes the car is rotating "back, and to the left" but the next shot it's going another direction.  It's almost like there's a conspiracy to cover up switched Generals.  Maybe the CIA altered the film footage before it got played on the air. 

.  .  .  And is it any coincence that Hazzard county is absolutely covered in grassy knolls?  


   

[grdprx]

This thread is pretty comical. How to Get Worked Up Over Nothing 101.

I'm surprised it's longer than 1 page! 

[skip68]

         
.  .  .  And is it any coincence that Hazzard county is absolutely covered in grassy knolls?  
 

   So, you think there was a second General Lee on the grassy knoll ? ? ?   

[bull]

         
.  .  .  And is it any coincence that Hazzard county is absolutely covered in grassy knolls?  
 

   So, you think there was a second General Lee on the grassy knoll ? ? ?   

I heard there were more than 200 of them, but that's a pretty crazy conspiracy theory.

[Back N Black]

How did i miss this thread! 

[whitehatspecial]

Not for sale at any price? That's never true, everything has a price. If Donald Trump offered him $500,000 would it still not be for sale at any price? 

Everything has a price!!! Even Dodge Chargers with an 01 on the doors.

[elanmars]

my guess is, some people don't believe everything they read? that's why they question it.

[The70RT]

Come on guys......this is crazy. If wanna post over nothing post here

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,42.msg703823.html#msg703823

[MoparManJim]

my guess is, some people don't believe everything they read? that's why they question it.

On that note, I wonder if they even belive in them selfs!

[squeakfinder]

I think this thread went to hell when it was mentioned how big the letters o and I were.

[skip68]

So now you think those numbers are letters ?        You may be on to something.   

[The70RT]

I thought I helped 

[elanmars]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthony-kretowicz/3459125949/

^another car found in rubble. third gen!!

[The70RT]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthony-kretowicz/3459125949/

^another car found in rubble. third gen!!

Jackpot.....

[brianz426]

Boy do I miss the days you could delete a post.  You people are silly.

I AGREE

[brianz426]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthony-kretowicz/3459125949/

^another car found in rubble. third gen!!

The pictures on the link in this thread make this entire post tolerable.
Thanks