Ebay seller advice wanted

41husk · October 13, 2009, 06:28:04 PM

My first ever Ebay selling experiance is ending in a short 3 hours and it appears I won't meet my reserve. My 68 that I set the reserve at 20k is only at $16,200. I have had 3 bids and 5 questions answered, most am I interested in a trade. I thought at that reserve this turn key nice example would be gone at the end of auction. My question is, if it does not meet the reserve (and that is the very lowest I would sell it for) Is it worth relisting and should I lower the reserve when I WOULD NOT let it leave my garage for less than the reserve on it now?

69bronzeT5 · October 13, 2009, 06:30:30 PM

I'd relist it or maybe consider lowering the price a bit.

mauve66 · October 13, 2009, 06:30:46 PM

hard economy for cars right now, you didnt leave a link for anyone to look at the car, alot of serious money people just wait till the last 5 mins to bid

41husk · October 13, 2009, 06:40:53 PM

I have some pics on the cars for sale on here, and I am not real good with the posting things from other sites, but the item # is 330366110919 if that helps at all. I won't lower the price! I have more in the car than what the reserve is.

mauve66 · October 13, 2009, 06:44:09 PM

Quote from: 41husk on October 13, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
I have some pics on the cars for sale on here, and I am not real good with the posting things from other sites, but the item # is 330366110919 if that helps at all. I won't lower the price! I have more in the car than what the reserve is.

nothing personal, but most of us do

squeakfinder · October 13, 2009, 06:48:19 PM

Is it this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330366110919&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2F__%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3841.m39.l1313%26_nkw%3D330366110919%26_sacat%3D%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

charger_fan_4ever · October 13, 2009, 06:49:44 PM

If it does not sell and $20k is the bare minimum I'd relist with starting bid of $20k with no reserve and mark no reserve in the heading. You could also add a buy it now price.
Starting bid 20k and a buy it now 25k.

squeakfinder · October 13, 2009, 06:51:02 PM

There's still a couple hours, then the sniper's will come out. It could still go up another 1 or 2 thousand.

41husk · October 13, 2009, 06:51:45 PM

I know! I know I have three I have done from projects and as we all know, if we truly sat down and added up all the money and didn't even consider our time, we would all probably be in deep depression

This is my first time selling on ebay, and have seen cars I did not think were near my car get bidded higher.

Nacho-RT74 · October 13, 2009, 06:53:17 PM

just wait untill get what you want, simply like that

you can relist. Maybe the right person will begin the search of his dreamed car next week

41husk · October 13, 2009, 06:54:54 PM

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on October 13, 2009, 06:49:44 PM
If it does not sell and $20k is the bare minimum I'd relist with starting bid of $20k with no reserve and mark no reserve in the heading. You could also add a buy it now price.
Starting bid 20k and a buy it now 25k.

Yes thats my car, thanks charger_fan_4erever, That sounds like good advice. What does it cost to relist?

charger_fan_4ever · October 13, 2009, 07:00:52 PM

I've only bought and sold parts on ebag. Its my last resort for selling or buying. Cost will be about the same to relist as your initial listing.

I wonder what E-bag's cut would be on $25k :S
When you listed did it tell you what the selling fees would be ?

captnsim · October 13, 2009, 07:05:53 PM

20k calls for better pic's in the listing. Poor shot (should be shot's) of the interior, engine bay, and no underside shots. Some pic's are a bit out of focus, fingers in the frame. Good Pic's will sell your car.

bill440rt · October 13, 2009, 07:23:33 PM

From my observation experience (I've only bought/sold parts on eBay as well), selling a vehicle on eBay is a risky situation. There's only a 10-day window, and sometimes buyers are leery making a big time purchase sight-unseen. It might sell, it might not.
The best selling point in an auction, IMHO, is good, clear photos! 3 out of your only 10 photos are from like 20 feet away, and your finger is partially blocking another. As a potential buyer, I'd want to see MORE close ups of the car. I cannot tell from your photos what the gauges look like, the undercarriage, the suspension, the fuel tank, etc. There are no close-ups of the grille, and no photos of the trunk area or trunk floor.
Does any documentation come with the car? What does the fender tag read?

Please don't take my reply as nit-picking, but these are little things that mean a lot in an auction. Especially if you want it to reach $20K. If it doesn't sell, you can try re-listing it with more/better photos and additional info to improve on your auction.

Another tip: Get the word out! Don't rely just on eBay. MCG offers free ads to subscribers. Try Hemmings, Moparts, here at DC.com, or any other Mopar related website you can get your hands on. It may not be overnight, it takes patience nowadays to sell a classic car sometimes.
Good luck!

Charger RT · October 13, 2009, 07:37:40 PM

That was wild looking at the auction. first thing I caught was your charger was built the same day as mine at the same plant. Yours was built first my vin ends in 902.

The others are right better pictures more description more history if you know more the car is 41 years old. I have never sold a car on ebay I bought one once and have sold quite a few parts. Some times just a week can make a big differance on sale price. I once had a carb up for a week at 14.99 with no bidders. I was moving so it was everything must go and relisted it at 9.99 and it sold for 30 some dollars. go figure any of the bidders could have had it a week earlier for 14.99. if it doesn't sell tonight go look at others listings and see how the pictures are done and how they are written and copy the format of the good ones.
Tim

chargerboy69 · October 13, 2009, 07:38:21 PM

I have been a member of E-Bay since 1999. I have sold hundreds of items on E-Bay, including cars. I have a camper on there now. Here are the things working against you. First, you have zero feedback. People are not sure they can trust someone that is new. Second, are your pictures. You are allowed twenty-four pictures, use them. And to be honest, the pictures you have are not all that good. Take all new pictures and super-size them through E-Bay. Third, you mention the Buy It Now price is $25,000.00. That might be high at this time in the car market. Run the car again without a reserve. Sometime near the end of the auction have friends or family bid on the car for you (hell yes I do that). That way you make sure you get what you want. I do not know why (and E-Bay has the stats to back it up) no reserve auctions usually bring more money.

Here is my auction. Look at the difference. I have good quality pictures a potential buyer can super size.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360197482319&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT

I know I am harsh, but changing your ad completely might help you sell the car. If you want further advise or need help trying to make a better ad just PM me and I will help you. But then again, it may sell this time and prove me all wrong.

Good luck with your sale.

Tim

41husk · October 13, 2009, 07:42:56 PM

I don't think any one is harsh. I appreciate any advice. I will not post a no reserve auction and have people place false bids. I think that is much what is wrong with our hobby. I will probably repost and have some one who can use a camera take Pics of every thing. Thanks all for all the advise.

moparsons · October 13, 2009, 07:53:18 PM

Shill bidding is wrong.Not only morally, but probably leagally as well.

Charger440RDN · October 13, 2009, 07:53:52 PM

Quote from: chargerboy69 on October 13, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
Sometime near the end of the auction have friends or family bid on the car for you (hell yes I do that).

So shill bidding really happens on Ebay?? NO!!

I have sold cars on Ebay before and you should be prepared to not get paid when the auction is won. You have too many people that like to play on the computer and run the bidding up with no intentions of paying. This happened to me several times. Have you ever watched an auction won on Ebay and then see it relisted a week later? Some of the same cars have been on ebay for months because winners don't pay up.

Quote from: 41husk on October 13, 2009, 06:51:45 PM
This is my first time selling on ebay, and have seen cars I did not think were near my car get bidded higher.

Believe me most of those cars you saw bidded high were not paid for either

41husk · October 13, 2009, 08:08:43 PM

Thanks I guess I assume the best in people. I did not want to use Ebay and was advised on here to do so for nothing more than advertisement. I have a car I love, that no one could build for 20k, so maybe I should relist once and then look at another way to get the Daytona clone

Charger440RDN · October 13, 2009, 08:25:24 PM

Oh I'm sure there are some good buyers on ebay, just seems like more bad than good. I guess I'm just bitter toward ebay now.

Hopefully you will have better luck than me.

41husk · October 13, 2009, 08:39:21 PM

Thanks, I hope some thing good comes of the auction. I have some one coming down to look at my 73. I don't believe the 73 is close to the car my 68 is

Blown70 · October 13, 2009, 09:25:16 PM

Quote from: 41husk on October 13, 2009, 08:08:43 PM
Thanks I guess I assume the best in people. I did not want to use Ebay and was advised on here to do so for nothing more than advertisement. I have a car I love, that no one could build for 20k, so maybe I should relist once and then look at another way to get the Daytona clone

Allan, I know I suggested that you used ebay if nothing else to get the word out/advertisement.... I think you did that. Personally I would use a few more pictures, Underside esp. and maybe a few inside the trunk....and offer to email more if needed. The no feedback can hurst some, but again not everything.

I may also say this..... how important is the Clone to you. What I mean by the retorical question is this..... I got rid of 2-70 Challengers for less than what I paid, why? I wanted a 69 that was down the road from me......so I was willing to take a slight loss to get what I wanted... I am NOT suggesting you do this, however, I know if I could even get close to selling something to get hotrod98 (larrys) 71 Red Cuda, I would lose some money in a heartbeat, becasue I want that car BADLY...

Just my thoughts, I REALLY hope that works out for both of you.

Tom

charger_fan_4ever · October 13, 2009, 09:51:45 PM

Quote from: chargerboy69 on October 13, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
Sometime near the end of the auction have friends or family bid on the car for you (hell yes I do that). That way you make sure you get what you want.

This is why when there is something i want to bid on, I only bid once and that is in the last 20 seconds. I set a max amount I'm willing to pay and place that bid when there are seconds left. Threw years of buying I realized early on the early you bid and more often you bid the amount just gets bid up(usually by shell bidding)

oldcarnut · October 13, 2009, 10:16:35 PM

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Quote from: chargerboy69 on October 13, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
Sometime near the end of the auction have friends or family bid on the car for you (hell yes I do that).

Something I like to do when looking at bidding on something is to check the current bidders. You can see what kind of percentage that individual bidders bid with a particular person to see if that's whats going on.

For another suggestion, my best results have been when you should time your listing to end the auction on Sunday or Saturday night. I try to list that way because more people are likely to be at home and can watch or bid when otherwise you lose people that may be at work etc. during the week and can't get access to up their bids. I know our workplace and some others have ebay and similar site access denied even if you have a computer. If you start it on the right day depending on how many days you list for, you can cover 2 weekends for more exposure. Just my experience that works for me. I listed a 31 Ford Roadster twice and never made reserve and had it half the price of similar. It did get the car noticed enough for someone to trade a 70 Chally and cash for it which was more than what I was trying to sell it for. Then there is always Craigslist. It costs nothing but your time to filter through all the scam artists.

41husk · October 14, 2009, 07:39:36 AM

Thanks, for all the help, yes, I have Ebay and my pm's blocked here at school. I think if it stops raining here I will bring the car into school get it up on the lift and have some one better with a camera take some pics of the bottom of the car, trunk, interior etc. and relist on Saturday. I got several calls on both cars just parking them in front of a grade school near my home. I have also been getting some autamated calls from 702 area code since listing it on ebay. The call says they are a marketing Co. that can help me sell my car. Anyone have any experience with this? I sold a 72 at Gateway, a classic car consignment place, but that took months in a good economy.

Nacho-RT74 · October 14, 2009, 09:59:15 AM

I would keep the Reserve price and set the Buy It Now option maybe a little bit higher. Remember the Reserve price sets the price at the FULL OFFER made by buyer once met, and not with the minimun required to met the Reserve.

That means if you set the Reserve in $18K and somebody offers $19K once, you'll get the full $19K and not $18010 for example

aussiemuscle · October 15, 2009, 01:04:58 AM

make sure you ahve enough difference between listed price and buy it now. i see some morons having it the same on both

i listed my pontiac firebird only to ahve a zero feedback idiot put a bid on last minutes then not pay. i relisted it only to sell it 3 days later locally.

41husk · October 16, 2009, 11:49:16 AM

Tom, I hope you don't think I was some how upset that you suggested Ebay. Infact, I have two messages from people who wanted to know if the car was still available and if they could come look at it. I cant get to Ebay on here only the message sent to ebay to my email. I will contact both of them right after school and hopefully move a car or two. If not I will take some of the advice on here and relist the car next week. Ebay says I have 90 days to relist and if it sells they will give me adiscount

Blown70 · October 16, 2009, 11:54:42 AM

Quote from: 41husk on October 16, 2009, 11:49:16 AM
Tom, I hope you don't think I was some how upset that you suggested Ebay. Infact, I have two messages from people who wanted to know if the car was still available and if they could come look at it. I cant get to Ebay on here only the message sent to ebay to my email. I will contact both of them right after school and hopefully move a car or two. If not I will take some of the advice on here and relist the car next week. Ebay says I have 90 days to relist and if it sells they will give me adiscount

Not at all buddy... just a tough market. My point was only that its a great avertising tool too, and seems its doing that...

I just want to see you get the car (daytona clone) that you want.....

Tom

moparstuart · October 16, 2009, 12:05:56 PM

Quote from: 41husk on October 16, 2009, 11:49:16 AM
Tom, I hope you don't think I was some how upset that you suggested Ebay. Infact, I have two messages from people who wanted to know if the car was still available and if they could come look at it. I cant get to Ebay on here only the message sent to ebay to my email. I will contact both of them right after school and hopefully move a car or two. If not I will take some of the advice on here and relist the car next week. Ebay says I have 90 days to relist and if it sells they will give me adiscount

my buddy in perry missouri showed interest in the 68 , I sent him pictures and you email address

41husk · October 16, 2009, 12:40:27 PM

Thanks Stuart one of the guys who messaged me through Ebay was from MO and the other IL. I won't know who it is until I get to the computer at the Mopad were I can access Ebay. I put My cell and e mail in the ad, but every one seems to want to send questions through Ebay rather than calling or e mailing direct

472 R/T SE · October 17, 2009, 04:51:48 PM

Some examples of what I've done in the past.

Use Photobucket to host your pictures. It's free & you can post as many as you want. Remember, there's no such thing as too many pictures. Video is nice too as well as free.
What pictures you take is important too. I take pictures of the trunk channels & where the quarter is spot welded inside the door. If any metal was replaced it helps to show how it was done.
-subframe pictures
-bottom of doors
-inside trunk lid lip
-inside the trunk (the rear quarters), you can tell a lot about a car from that area alone.
All the places that are known for rusting.
I always start my 7 day auctions around 9-10am Pacific time on either a Saturday or Sunday.

More than any thing I don't expect to sell a car through ebay. It's more of an advertising tool for me.
You wanna get bidders riled up, end the auction half way through.

You'll get a mailbox full of PM's, DAMHIK.

A year or two ago I had my Challenger advertised for $38k & folks were beatin' down my door. Most were scared off by the dash pad having cracks. I replaced the pad, corrected the color of the top & stripe & dropped the price 4k & all I heard was crickets. It's a tough market right now.

Congrats on Larry's Daytona. I would have liked to score it too.

gtx6970 · October 17, 2009, 08:18:57 PM

Nice color combination.

would you be interested in a trade. I have a few parts I would like to get rid of

41husk · October 18, 2009, 09:01:01 AM

Thanks gtx6070, but the only reason I am selling this car is to buy Larry's Daytona Clone. I have approval from my credit union for the loan if I can't sell it in the alloted time, but the payments will make things real tight until I do move one of the cars. I can live with that my, biggest concern is garage space. I only have room indoors for 3 cars. I love them all and really don't want any of them stored outside. I will be happy to sell you the 68 or 73 and I will make you a real good deal if you buy both

Blown70 · October 19, 2009, 12:01:37 AM

Quote from: 41husk on October 18, 2009, 09:01:01 AM
Thanks gtx6070, but the only reason I am selling this car is to buy Larry's Daytona Clone. I have approval from my credit union for the loan if I can't sell it in the alloted time, but the payments will make things real tight until I do move one of the cars. I can live with that my, biggest concern is garage space. I only have room indoors for 3 cars. I love them all and really don't want any of them stored outside. I will be happy to sell you the 68 or 73 and I will make you a real good deal if you buy both

I would be HAPPY TO STORE one of your cars.....

or the Daytona

41husk · October 24, 2009, 04:22:04 PM

I have taken some more pics and I think I am going to try No reserve start it at 19k with a 25k buy it now

41husk · October 24, 2009, 04:25:04 PM

I have about 24 new pics lots of under the car

captnsim · October 24, 2009, 04:37:42 PM

Those two pics look great

If the rest are as good you should do way better.

Good luck

41husk · October 24, 2009, 06:09:57 PM

Thanks! I think if it doesn't sell, I will take out a loan for the ballance and drop either the 68 or 73 off at one of the local classic car consignment places and see if they can move it. That way it will still free up a spot in the garage

moparstuart · October 24, 2009, 07:33:45 PM

good luck buddy got my finger crossed for you

68charger383 · October 24, 2009, 09:19:04 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330371164329&ru=http://motors.search.ebay.com:80/330371164329_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

I read your ebay ad and it got me confused. You might want to clarify this:

Fresh QQ1 Blue paint new white vynil top, 383 4 barrel, 727 on the colum, 8 3/4 rear with 3:23 gears, original engine and rear, transmission was swaped out by the 2nd owner in 1981.

You might want to clarify this sentence. I'm reading this to mean that the original motor, tranny and rear were removed by the 2nd owner in 1981.

If this was the case, then what engine, tranny and rear is in the car now.

I'm guessing you meant to say the engine and rear are NOM and the tranny is not.

Good luck, I'm sure you'll sell it this time!

472 R/T SE · October 24, 2009, 10:26:48 PM

I would have snuck a pic or two of the '73 in there as well.

Blown70 · October 25, 2009, 12:14:26 AM

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on October 24, 2009, 10:26:48 PM
I would have snuck a pic or two of the '73 in there as well.

and mention you have another car avial...

those pics you put on here look much better, I am sure that will help.. Going to check the ad, but if you got some of the underside I am sure this will go for you

Pulling for you and getting that Daytona in the garage...

Tom

41husk · October 25, 2009, 08:50:12 AM

Thanks I do have one pic with all three but I am sure if I say I have other mopars available, I will get flooded with calls for the Convertible.

Blown70 · October 25, 2009, 02:09:29 PM

Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2009, 08:50:12 AM
Thanks I do have one pic with all three but I am sure if I say I have other mopars available, I will get flooded with calls for the Convertible.

Hahahah True, very true.....

41husk · October 25, 2009, 03:53:27 PM

I revised the drive train wording and added that I have another Charger for sale. Thanks for all the help and advise. Now Go BID !!!!!!

68charger383 · October 25, 2009, 04:13:04 PM

Here's my advice for some changes to the ad.

The fact that you have "0" history hurts you on ebay.

I would add to your ad that you are only selling this car only because you are going to buy a daytona clone. Add that you also are selling the super bee. This way people will think the car is good and without issues and your only selling to buy something else and not because the car has issues.

If you know, put a link to the parts needed to fix the headlights and an estimate of the cost.

You mention fresh QQ1 paint, tell a little about any work that was done prior to painting the car. If no work was required, even better, tell that. Tell the price paid for the paint if it was high, shows the car has plenty of money sunk into it. Looks like you painted the tail panel and have fresh bumpers, play up that.

Mention it's a dependable car ready to go to the cruise night and describe a long uneventful trip you took in the car. People want to know the car is reliable. Tell if the electrical, windshield wipers etc. work.

Motor looks stock, play that up, original air cleaner, valve covers, its an "H" code, play up the fact that it is a 383 330 Horse Big Block car.

You have enough cars to know the spots you'd want to see close up if you were buying this car. Take some close up shots of each 1/4 behind the rear tire, under each door, the rear window. All the shots you have on the auction showing the rust areas are 20 footers.

Describe the stuff done and the amount spent. That shows you did a lot of work to the car and the price is justified. Don't list engine repairs made, then the car seems like it isn't reliable.

41husk · October 25, 2009, 04:25:18 PM

Thanks, I will try to ad to the description, unfortunetly, the first auction had my camera work with the thumb featured often. For the shots I used I took the car to school and had a student from the computer/photo class take those pics. It would be at least Wednesday or Thursday before I can get more photos.

moparstuart · October 28, 2009, 01:00:01 PM

did my buddy from perry / monroe city area call you . I talked up the car to him and he seemed really intereested

41husk · October 28, 2009, 05:55:07 PM

No Stuart, never contacted me

moparstuart · October 29, 2009, 10:21:09 AM

are you sure ? he sounded like he talked to you and knew it was on ebay ?

41husk · October 29, 2009, 12:07:00 PM

I had talked with some one about comming to see the car. I don't know if that was your guy, but I told him I was available all weekend and left my phone #and then never was contacted

If he is interested feel free to give him my Phone # 618 558-7278

moparstuart · October 29, 2009, 12:34:42 PM

ok i fired him off an email

41husk · October 30, 2009, 08:13:45 AM

Thanks! I have a couple of PMs on here today but I can't open them here at school

Maybe one PM is a member saying they need my address to send payment for the BEE and the second, telling me they are buying the 68. OK Im an optimist

68charger383 · October 31, 2009, 11:25:22 AM

Fingers crossed that its going to get sniped within the last 10 seconds of the auction.

Polygon · October 31, 2009, 11:52:00 AM

Your second ad is good.
One more thought. Tell how long YOU have owned it. The longer the better. any paperwork from the previous owner, or older pictures BEFORE it was painted?

Other ideas already posted here, a YOU TUBE video of it starting, or driving around.

Money is tight now, 6 hours to go, no bids at $19,000. Tough market today.

Charger440RDN · October 31, 2009, 12:23:03 PM

Quote from: Polygon on October 31, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
Money is tight now, 6 hours to go, no bids at $19,000. Tough market today.

It is tough right now for a lot of people to justify spending money on a car they don't NEED, that will just be a toy. A muscle car is a luxury not a necessity. Yes money is very tight right now, it's tough to get some banks to loan even $5,000 these days even if you have good credit. Plus home equity lines of credit have dried up. Most people don't have $25,000 just laying around either.

41husk · November 02, 2009, 12:29:26 PM

I understand money is tight. I am taking one of the cars to a consignment place. They offer financing through some place ?? I got approved to borrow over 25k on the Daytona clone. I told my credit union the car will be available around the end of December. I was told it will take about 15 minutes to sign the paper work and get the check. If some one wants a car this is the time to get it and financing is available if you want it.

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Ebay seller advice wanted