Muscle Car Wars: Camaro outsells Mustang & Challenger for the 4th month in a row

[68charger383]

I think you can get the SS Camaro, equivalent to the perfromance of the SRT8, for the price of the Challenger R/T $32,000-$36,000. The SRT8 is $42,000-$46,000.

[Landonsrt]

I test drove a 2SS Camaro tuesday. It had leather, premium stereo, 6 speed manual, HID headlamps with halos. Brembo brakes, special edition wheels, sunroof, extra gauge cluster in the console. Pretty much all options. Sticker price was $36,900.00 with a $2,000.00 dealer mark up. So $38K. Why pay extra for a heavier, slower car??

[ZSmithersCharges]

This about sums it up, these prices are in the build your own sections of the respective automakers web pages.  None of these prices are with extra options just base models of the different selections add about $1000 for shipping to your dealership to all prices and there you have it.  Camaro wins flat out.

Camaro Pricing:

LS
304-hp 3.6L V6 engine
EPA est. 29 MPG hwy.2
18-inch Heritage steel wheels
StabiliTrak with traction control
     MSRP¹: Starting at $22,680  

Camaro 1LT
Foglamps.
6-way power driver seat.
18-inch painted-aluminum wheels
     MSRP¹: Starting at $23,880  

Camaro 2LT
19" painted aluminum wheels.
Leather-appointed seats with heated
Boston Acoustic® premium nine-speaker sound system
     MSRP¹: Starting at $26,875  

Camaro 1SS
4 piston Brembo® brakes.
426-hp 6.2L V82
20-inch Sterling Silver painted aluminum wheels3
     MSRP¹: Starting at $30,745  

Camaro 2SS
Leather-apppointed seats with heated front seats
Bluetooth® wireless technology4
4 pack auxiliary gauge cluster.
USB port
     MSRP¹: Starting at $33,745

Dodge Challenger Pricing:
   
   SE E Package   $22,945
   SE G Package   $25,740
   R/T F Package   $30,945
   R/T J Package   $32,880
   R/T Classic   $34,405
   SRT8   $42,645

[Landonsrt]

Went by a dodge dealership before we went to look at the Camaros. They had a used R/T challenger with 10K asking $36,000. All dodge dealers are on crack! They had a classic Challenger in the showroom asking $38,000!

[ZSmithersCharges]

I don't know why Chrysler doesn't impose a maximum price policy that only lets them go an approved amount of the sticker price like other automakers.  It doesn't just hurt the dealership to overprice obviously it hurts the automakers too.  Less sold by dealers less sold overall. 

On another note the sticker on a GTR is 72k our local dealer wanted 112k... the one up the street from them was selling for sticker price... some dealerships just have NO BRAINS.

[Ponch ®]

So are camaros being marked up too?

[bull]

So are camaros being marked up too?

A few posts above it says they mark the Camaro up by $2,000. The dealer markup on the Challenger is typically quite a bit more than that from what I've seen. Plus the base price is higher.

[JT01]

Ive had 12 camaros and my favorite are the 70-73s not much of a fan of the 67-69s because there are so many but anyway i hate to rag on the new camaro I personally dont like it and I dont know how they could outsell the mustang because all the Chevy lots sround my area cant get rid of them and when I look at camaros on ebay there are so many new ones on there that are not selling.

[Charger440RDN]

Ive had 12 camaros and my favorite are the 70-73s not much of a fan of the 67-69s because there are so many but anyway i hate to rag on the new camaro I personally dont like it and I dont know how they could outsell the mustang because all the Chevy lots sround my area cant get rid of them and when I look at camaros on ebay there are so many new ones on there that are not selling.

It's the complete opposite where I'm at, the chevy dealership has had 2 camaros since they came out and the dodge dealership has had maybe 3. Kind of weird, as the best Chevy, the lots should be overflowing with them. I think I read something where GM doesn't want to flood the market with camaros to keep demand up. I guess maybe that only applies to certain areas of the country.

[1969chargerrtse]

I don't understand why...if its based on looks.
Im not just saying this because I am a Mopar guy.....maybe the new Camaro has good performance and pricing, but when it comes to the look/design of it...I really think GM dropped the ball. That is one of the ugliest looking cars I have seen, I love the retro look of the Mustangs and Challengers. I personally would rather have a new Charger over the new Camaro.

Jason

I think the challenger is the best looking of the 3 pony cars, but chrysler screwed up by having it share a platform with the charger, a FULL SIZE FAMILY SEDAN!! The challenger is just a little to large right now, that is the only drawback. When they redesign it, the chally needs to have it's own platform and lose about 800lbs.

I know back in 1970 the first challenger shared the B-body platform and it was also bigger than the camaro & mustang even then. The only advantage is that tall people like me, 6ft 2' can fit in it, I do like that.

It's all personal preference. I happen to like the looks of the Camaro and Mustang (2005-2009) but I hate the size of the Challenger. The 1970 E Body cars did share a lot with the B Body cars but they weren't the same platform (they were shorter).

Troy

[bull]

I think I read something where GM doesn't want to flood the market with camaros to keep demand up.

If that were true the demand for the new Challenger would be huge.

[Landonsrt]

So are camaros being marked up too?

A few posts above it says they mark the Camaro up by $2,000. The dealer markup on the Challenger is typically quite a bit more than that from what I've seen. Plus the base price is higher.

I was told by the salesman that that dealer marks everyone up $2000. Some dealers may charge more but that was their standard. That was at Rick Hendrick Chevrolet.

[ZSmithersCharges]

So are camaros being marked up too?

A few posts above it says they mark the Camaro up by $2,000. The dealer markup on the Challenger is typically quite a bit more than that from what I've seen. Plus the base price is higher.

I was told by the salesman that that dealer marks everyone up $2000. Some dealers may charge more but that was their standard. That was at Rick Hendrick Chevrolet.

Its to pay for the shipping and the pre sale maintanence that they do to the cars which includes detailing in most cases, fluid fills and just standard checks to make sure everything is functioning properly.  Every dealership marks them up to pay for that and the ones that dont include it in the price or take it as a loss to sell the car.

[Landonsrt]

no, thats called a dock fee. Thats not why they are marking them up the extra $2,000. PDI charges are usually around $500.00.

[ZSmithersCharges]

no, thats called a dock fee. Thats not why they are marking them up the extra $2,000. PDI charges are usually around $500.00.

Well you just said they were tacking on 2000 dollars not what it was called  so I gave you my input Hmm well then I guess ill default to my original deffense answer, "Yo dog we gotta eat too!"  Either way there not asking for half as much as Dodge so I'm not really going to fault them.  Its still an affordable sports car for the guy whos not a doctor and I can appreciate that.  Just wish Dodge was on the same page like they used to be with the Challenger:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZwUsAd5_yQ.

[Landonsrt]

I completely agree that its cheaper. They can call it a destination charge or whatever. Bottom line is they (dodge and chevrolet) are marking them up because of demand! I just dont see the point of price gouging the challenger as much as they have.

[ZSmithersCharges]

I completely agree that its cheaper. They can call it a destination charge or whatever. Bottom line is they (dodge and chevrolet) are marking them up because of demand! I just dont see the point of price gouging the challenger as much as they have.

[Charger440RDN]

I really hope they increase production of the Challenger because you never know when this Chrysler-Fiat fiasco is going to end. Then the whole company may be gone. They need to get as many of these Challengers on the lots as possible. To compete with the camaro they have to come down on the prices of the SRT models.

[ZSmithersCharges]

I really hope they increase production of the Challenger because you never know when this Chrysler-Fiat fiasco is going to end. Then the whole company may be gone. They need to get as many of these Challengers on the lots as possible. To compete with the camaro they have to come down on the prices of the SRT models.

The prices I posted on the SRT8's was from their site, so not far enough 

[68charger383]

Challenger was second to hit the street. They had the new car appeal over the mustang and could get away with the false collector BS that they did in 2008 to mark up the cars. In 2009 until the Camaro came out, they could have continued the unrealistic price that they are charging.

Once the Camaro came out, they should have or most businesses would have dropped the prices of the challenger to under cut the price of the new Camaro. Unless they are making a killing on the cars at their current prices, the sales volume between the other cars in the same market shows the challengers are way overpriced. Since sales are so low, it is almost required that they drop the price to try and increase demand.