"THE NORTHEAST OHIO DUKES" stunt show...

[69bronzeT5]

For the love of god, one is enough but.... Yes I realize some of the videos show the same jump. I guess these guys don't understand "don't try this at home"

http://www.youtube.com/user/CNH01320

[ZSmithersCharges]

I don't even know where they're getting them from I scour Ohio craigslist all day everyday...

[Daytona R/T SE]

Looks like fun to me...

[Landonsrt]

Didnt we discuss this video a month or so ago? Just seems like a longer, more theatrical version..

[ZSmithersCharges]

I think it has been brought up before now that you mention it.  I almost want one of them to get hurt so the city says, "no more fellas".

[Landonsrt]

I think it has been brought up before now that you mention it.  I almost want one of them to get hurt so the city says, "no more fellas".

DITTO

[Neal_J]

That was AWESOME!!!~

[RD]

That was AWE... nevermind.. it was stupid.  Sorry, I like tv shows, but to go and watch a reinactment of impersonators and watch the GL die, just doesnt constitute a "good time" for me.

to be honest, i wish all these threads would just go away.  out of sight, out of mind.

[tan top]

    nother wrecked

[Mike DC]

It's one Dukes fan that has been doing this a couple years in a row now.  He started off jumping a parts-car left over from a resto project but I think he bought another one since then. 

I wish he would stop it too.

[MoparManJim]

I think it has been brought up before now that you mention it.  I almost want one of them to get hurt so the city says, "no more fellas".

DITTO

3x that   

What would be strange, scary, but yet funny for us to see is the car fall apart before it even gets to the dirt hill  , another is have the thing blow a tire/s just as it is about to leave the ramp or should I say dirt hill. 

[MoparManJim]

That was AWE... nevermind.. it was stupid.  Sorry, I like tv shows, but to go and watch a reinactment of impersonators and watch the GL die, just doesnt constitute a "good time" for me.

to be honest, i wish all these threads would just go away.  out of sight, out of mind.

I guess then you are all for them killing chargers? it sure sounds like it with that last line you said there. I do agree with you that it is stupid for them to keep doing it.

[bigred68]

 I know this person, actually pretty well. The Chargers that he has destroyed doing these jumps hardly qualify as cars at all. They're complete pcs. of crap with almost NOTHING worth salvaging.(Although, I guess some might? say that there are some salvageable parts on those cars?) http://www.cglfc.com/main_frame_cglfc.html  That being said...Ray,PLEASE stop doing this. You have children to raise. They do not want to come visit you in a convalescent home until you turn 80. YOU ARE NOT A STUNTMAN MY FRIEND. PLEASE STOP. Even the BEST have sometimes not walked away from these jumps your doing.

[MoparManJim]

Look up AMD 

[RD]

That was AWE... nevermind.. it was stupid.  Sorry, I like tv shows, but to go and watch a reinactment of impersonators and watch the GL die, just doesnt constitute a "good time" for me.

to be honest, i wish all these threads would just go away.  out of sight, out of mind.

I guess then you are all for them killing chargers? it sure sounds like it with that last line you said there. I do agree with you that it is stupid for them to keep doing it.

no, that is not what i said.  I said i wished "these" threads would stop popping up (no hit on the posters btw, i like ya guys).  if i dont know about it, then it wont sicken me (as much).  just because they post the aftermath video here will not stop the yahoos from continuing the destruction of a iconic musclecar legend.  i just disliike very much being reminded that they are continually destroying the cars that I love.  that is it, nothing more.

will the posts stop? nope, but this will be the last one i post in.

[aussiemuscle]

Man, that was a bad landing. don't these guys know how to make a stunt jump? how long until someone gets killed?

[ZSmithersCharges]

Man, that was a bad landing. don't these guys know how to make a stunt jump? how long until someone gets killed?

I would say not soon enough but I would never wish that on anyone.  Tempting however.

[Landonsrt]

There is no way in hell those cars are worse off than mine is. That one was totally salvageable. Well, not now. Just another meaningless death of a great car!

[Red Ram]

Even if there was no destruction of a muscle car...it's still completely stupid. Someday this TV show will be washed from the minds of the people. Don't know if I'll live to see the day!

[Mike DC]

If you find a time when nobody remembers Dukes anymore, then there are probably no musclecars around at all. 

[LoneStar Mopar]

Okay! So they can break away from authenticity by using and jumping a P.O.S. 90s model car for the cop car jump, but they have to use the charger for the General Lee jump? Why not use a P.O.S. 90s car for the GL jump. With the bad lighting and I assume drunken state that most of those people are in a GL painted 90s model caprice will do just fine. 

[ZSmithersCharges]

If you find a time when nobody remembers Dukes anymore, then there are probably no musclecars around at all.  

I'm gonna claim nuetrality here but   If ever there is a time so far off in the future where Dukes is forgotten unfortunately our whole culture probably went with it.  As much as everyone hates the show for the jumps our cars recognition is holding hands with fingers laced with the shows popularity.  Now theres both sides to that arguement but without that show I know a lot of you wouldn't be here today with your chargers.  Hell you might even be GM guys  

[ZSmithersCharges]

Okay! So they can break away from authenticity by using and jumping a P.O.S. 90s model car for the cop car jump, but they have to use the charger for the General Lee jump? Why not use a P.O.S. 90s car for the GL jump. With the bad lighting and I assume drunken state that most of those people are in a GL painted 90s model caprice will do just fine. 

I agree with this as well!

[Mike DC]

Me too.  If it was my show there might be an orange car flying with a 01 on the side, but it wouldn't be a Charger. 

[Landonsrt]

Make it a mustang. Theres millions of them!

[RamchargerMopar]

that was awesome show another vid!

[MoparManJim]

Hey guys, check this out http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=24215&start=15   

[ZSmithersCharges]

Hey guys, check this out http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=24215&start=15    

He wants 500 bucks for the last one that was jumped.  Thats not bad... I'm just wondering if anyone here is crazy enough to save it  

Oh and by the way I tried to sign up to that website to flame that guy for being a fag but I have to wait for the admin to grant me access 

I love how jump fans throw out random numbers when trying to explain how much money it would cost to fix the cars.  It needed rear quarters a trunk pan with braces and floorboards with braces.  How much does this all add up to in random number heaven for them? 50 and 25 thousand were the numbers these geniuses quoted for these parts.  Granted the car needed more misc pieces than what I stated it would not even cost a quarter of either of those two numbers if the buyer did the work themselves such as many of you guys have.  I just think the whole thing is stupid, the guy spends time buying fixing and painting these cars to make them "jump worthy" why not just go the whole 9 yards and finish the resto you started?...

[RD]

ooo ggrrrr i hate that guy.. its too far gone.. gee, glad the guy who found his general in the pond didnt think so.

what a douchebag... hey jim.. link this thread, i want him to know that i called him a douchebag.

he doesnt love his chargers, he loves the money he gets for jumping his chargers to a crowd of 10,000 spectators.  If he loved his chargers, he would be losing money on the jumps each year.. that is love.  He loves money.. where is that BULLSHIT smiley when you need it.

[ZSmithersCharges]

ooo ggrrrr i hate that guy.. its too far gone.. gee, glad the guy who found his general in the pond didnt think so.

what a douchebag... hey jim.. link this thread, i want him to know that i called him a douchebag.

he doesnt love his chargers, he loves the money he gets for jumping his chargers to a crowd of 10,000 spectators.  If he loved his chargers, he would be losing money on the jumps each year.. that is love.  He loves money.. where is that BULLSHIT smiley when you need it.

AGREE.  Perfectly said.

[MoparManJim]

ooo ggrrrr i hate that guy.. its too far gone.. gee, glad the guy who found his general in the pond didnt think so.

what a douchebag... hey jim.. link this thread, i want him to know that i called him a douchebag.

he doesnt love his chargers, he loves the money he gets for jumping his chargers to a crowd of 10,000 spectators.  If he loved his chargers, he would be losing money on the jumps each year.. that is love.  He loves money.. where is that BULLSHIT smiley when you need it.

Yea, he's already flaming me kinda, not like it's dang first time though  . 

The guy that has the charger that was found in the pond has more respeack for chargers. 

What gets me is, this guy says it's not worth fixing but yet he will fix it up to jump it though and he tells me I have afew screws loose  . I would say if it was not worth fixing up then it's not worth jumping either 

[ZSmithersCharges]

Hes a moron... I don't know why inbreeding goes on in this country anymore... i thought we were beyond that.

[69bronzeT5]

He loves money.. where is that BULLSHIT smiley when you need it.

[MoparManJim]

He loves money.. where is that BULLSHIT smiley when you need it.

Well, now Cody, I, David are getting flamed over there because we don't agree with the... well you can insert any word you like right here   

But I'm going to borrow a line from Marty from Back To The Future and that is "He's an A-hole!"

[69bronzeT5]

Frickin' idiot redneck

[Mikesmoparperformance]

Well Maybe they fix this one up for the next jump.
if they make it a ramp to ramp jump they can jump more times then ones!

When do then stop jumping Chargers

[Charger440RDN]

Me too.  If it was my show there might be an orange car flying with a 01 on the side, but it wouldn't be a Charger.  

How about jumping an early 1990's ford Thunderbird? It could resemble a charger from the side if painted orange.............OK maybe not  

1. It's a 2 door car

2. Rear wheel drive

3. A piece of crap nobody would miss and not worth anything

[ZSmithersCharges]

Thank you guys for fighting the good fight this moron is being backed into a corner and more members on the forum are starting to get the balls to speak up too.  The admin hasn't approved my login yet but you can bet just as soon as he/she does OH ITS ON LIKE DONKY KONG 

[LoneStar Mopar]

Here's another question. If these were factory Hemi cars would they be too far gone and therefore jumped? Propably not, well if that is the case then THEY ARE NOT TOO FAR GONE!! Yes I understand that there is a difference between a 318 car and a Hemi car, but don't just use the easy out as saying they are too far gone when reality is they propably aeren't.

[ZSmithersCharges]

Here's another question. If these were factory Hemi cars would they be too far gone and therefore jumped? Propably not, well if that is the case then THEY ARE NOT TOO FAR GONE!! Yes I understand that there is a difference between a 318 car and a Hemi car, but don't just use the easy out as saying they are too far gone when reality is they propably aeren't.

The other guy on the other forum is using that excuse as we speak... "well if it was a hemi it would  be different" NO IT WOULDN'T aside from the motor mounts EVERYTHING is the same(almost) if a Hemi is saveable than a 318 is too because everything is the same so a 318 body IS a hemi body and vise versa.  You should look at the guys pictures, at first you'll go HOLY CRAP.  But then once you actually start thinking about it and what the pieces cost like the full floors from amd, its really not as far gone as he claims it to be.

[MoparManJim]

Here's another question. If these were factory Hemi cars would they be too far gone and therefore jumped? Propably not, well if that is the case then THEY ARE NOT TOO FAR GONE!! Yes I understand that there is a difference between a 318 car and a Hemi car, but don't just use the easy out as saying they are too far gone when reality is they propably aeren't.

I tryed point out that all chargers are the same really, all the differents are is just afew items onboard them is all. But look at the guy last reply over there  to the follow member "Traveler".

[LoneStar Mopar]

What forum or website are you all debating on? I would like to see what the other sides arguments are.

[MoparManJim]

What forum or website are you all debating on? I would like to see what the other sides arguments are.

http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=24215

[ZSmithersCharges]

What forum or website are you all debating on? I would like to see what the other sides arguments are.

http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=24215

Beat me to the punch 

[LoneStar Mopar]

Thanks going to check it out!

[MoparManJim]

What forum or website are you all debating on? I would like to see what the other sides arguments are.

http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=24215

Beat me to the punch 

Bang.. I guess you got it 

[ZSmithersCharges]

What forum or website are you all debating on? I would like to see what the other sides arguments are.

http://www.cglfc.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=24215

Beat me to the punch 

Bang.. I guess you got it 

 

[Mike DC]

                                   
You could run a '71 HemiCuda convertible through a compactor and turn it into a cube, and somebody would probably insist on "restoring" it.  But that still doesn't mean it's actually restorable in any realistic sense.

[LoneStar Mopar]

Darn, the pics are blocked here at work. I will check it out again tomorrow at home. Still read the thread. I agree with the guy on the statement that people who let their chargers rot into the ground are guilty for killing them too. Other than that I fail to see much of his logic.

I like how he said he will find every last junk charger he can and will jump them until they are gone. This guy sounds dangerous to the hobby. I assume as the truly junky chargers are getting more scarce the higher his expectations will get as to what is a "restorable" charger. Especially when he is making $$$ by doing it. He sounds like the type of person that would jump a perfectly restored charger as long as he made money off of the deal.

It is like on a truck forum I am on. Alot of those guys part out perfectly restorable vintage trucks just because they can make a few more bucks off of them that way than by selling them as projects. They will do it as long as there is one more left to do it to and they can make a dollar. They truly dont care about the vehicles or the hobby at all; just their pocketbook!!

[Steve P.]

Fact 1) Anything can be fixed. It may NOT be worth the time and money, but it can.

Fact 2) He owns the car and it is his to do what he wants with it. It's NOT my taste, but it's NOT my choice.

Fact 3) You will ALLLLLLWAYS have people on 2 sides of a line. Why push what won't gain you anything?

Fact 4) Someone made money on parts the car needed and the owner made money on his stunt. In this day and age I would say that's a good thing. Besides, when there are only a few thousand 1969 Chargers left those of you that own one will have very rare cars. Who would want a 1 of 2000 left car??

[LoneStar Mopar]

My grandfather used to have a rare car. One of like 200 made. Back in the 90s he said that only 10 were known to still exist. When I asked him if he wished more of them had made it thru the years he said no. He said he wished his was the only one that hadn't been destroyed. I thought it was an extremely selfish outlook to have.  As far as its their car to do what they want with . That is true it is theirs to do as they wish, thank god we live in a free country. That doesn't mean others dont have the right to voice their opinion as to what those people are doing with their cars.

[RD]

plus, it wont be their car forever... no one is immortal.  the more you smash, the less there are for future generations.

[MoparManJim]

plus, it wont be their car forever... no one is immortal.  the more you smash, the less there are for future generations.

Thats my whole point the dang time, Thank you for saying it!   

At least someone see's what I was been trying to say but they said it awhole lot better then I was though.

[Mike DC]

 
The future of the Charger hobby will not hinge on whether or not a few more rough shells get wrecked at car shows instead of rotting away in the woods.  It hinges on new generations of kids remaining interested + continued aftermarket support.

[Bob]

 
The future of the Charger hobby will not hinge on whether or not a few more rough shells get wrecked at car shows instead of rotting away in the woods.  It hinges on new generations of kids remaining interested + continued aftermarket support.

That is the simplest answer I have ever read when it comes to one these type topics. Good answer.

[TylerCharger69]

 

[MoparManJim]

I don't want to make anyone upset. 

[Steve P.]

Jim, you've been around since back in 05', you should know that this same kind of thread comes up often enough that the BEATING A DEAD HORSE smileys rings true.

[MoparManJim]

Jim, you've been around since back in 05', you should know that this same kind of thread comes up often enough that the BEATING A DEAD HORSE smileys rings true.

Just to make it clear, I edited my reply above to what he was originally referring to. 

Steve, just because my register says 05 doesn't mean I been here that whole time bud. I just came back to the board last Dec. That is almost a year now. I know it looks like I been here sense 05 but I haven't been though. 

I would also like to add something here also, and I don't want to make no one mad, but it seems to me that when the dead horse smiley comes up, folks that posts them has no interest in the subject at all kinda but just rather just want to post something in the thread though. 

Also, to the member that I posted my earlier comment to, I'm sorry for being so harsh at you, I didn't intend to be that harsh though, I'm tired of the dead horse thing when folks are having a talk about something though. 

[RD]

 
The future of the Charger hobby will not hinge on whether or not a few more rough shells get wrecked at car shows instead of rotting away in the woods.  It hinges on new generations of kids remaining interested + continued aftermarket support.

True, but attrition with the destruction of chargers will limit future generations from being able to partake in this hobby.  The more rare the car becomes, the more specific the car collector.  It will no longer become (and in some cases it has already) a hobby where people from all tax brackets can participate, but instead, just the elite rich ones.

[Charger440RDN]

Look at the Fast and furious movies and how many new charger fans it created. it introduced the charger to a new generation that didn't grow up with dukes. I was pissed when they destroyed that black 70 charger for no reason. But if you think about it, that charger was the star of the movie even in the brief scenes it was in. The Charger was sacrificed for a cheap thrill but the movie overall may have created lifetime Mopar fans out of the young viewers, kind of like dukes of hazzard did.
 
When I hear kids talk about the movie they only talk about the Charger and how they want one one day. So some good did come from these fast & furious movies. Even though the movies sucked overall. I still hate to see any charger destroyed for any reason.