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Engine knocks

Started by Chargerfreak, September 28, 2009, 03:23:53 PM

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Chargerfreak

Hello all.

When i start my car it sounds perfect. Than after driving a while and it's warm/hot and i turn the car off and wait a minute and start again it's knocking a while. The knock also follws the rpm's.

Is this a typical lifter gone bad?

It' a 383.

Chris.

Chargerfreak


ipstrategies

I am no mechanic..
but I have always thought knocking sound (lower end of engine)
tapping type sounds top end (lifters )  and my 383 lifters tap some when I first start if it has been sitting for a while.

I am sure someone will post some ideas? 
1971 Dodge Charger SE 383 Magnum
1999 Dodge Durango 5.9
1995 Chrysler LHS

y3chargerrt

Knock with engine rpm sounds like bottom end to me. Hows your oil pressure cold and hot?

frederick

Alsways very difficullt to tell over the internet.

But is it knocking at
engine speed = crankshaft, bearing problem
1/2 engine speed = camshaft, lifter rocker etc problem
faster than engine speed, look at ancillaries; alternator, waterpump, etc

Would it be possible to make a video of it?

Chargerfreak

Ok, will check these things this weekend.

You also kept in mind that it only happens when warm and started.. And then it fades away again after a while..??

Thanks already,
Chris.

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Chargerfreak

Ok first this: oil pressure cold is 55 psi and warm little over 60..

Also had my engine checked a while ago, and they tested compression and came up with this.

1 - 9          2 - 9,5
3 - 9,5       4 - 10
5 - 9          6 - 9,5
7 - 10,5      8 - 10

The guy who checked my engine also wrote on the list:

Maybe valves to tight. Engine is noisy, collapsing piston or bearing and lots of underpressure.


Chris.

Chargerfreak

O and by the way, video or sound is difficult for me to post. Still i think it's a hydraulic problem since it only occurs when the engine is turned off when warm and then started.. Mechanical problem would make the sound all the time right?

Chris.

twinscrew698

Just by chance ,make sure torque converter bolts are tight!
That will resemble a knock also!

Tilar

So will a cracked flex plate.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Chargerfreak

But it doesn't knock all the time.... :shruggy:

Chris.

twinscrew698

That will do it also! Cracked flex plate and or loose converter!!

Tilar

Put it in gear with just a slight load on the engine and see if the knock goes away.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



firefighter3931

Quote from: Chargerfreak on October 03, 2009, 08:12:28 AM
O and by the way, video or sound is difficult for me to post. Still i think it's a hydraulic problem since it only occurs when the engine is turned off when warm and then started.. Mechanical problem would make the sound all the time right?

Chris.


It sounds like one or more of your lifters are bleeding down when the engine is warm.  :Twocents:



Ron
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Chargerfreak

Thanks all!

I still think lifters too. Is there a way to tell for sure? Before i just go replacing them? And to determine the side, just listening?

Still will check flex plate, and torque conv. bolts too.

Again thanks,
Chris.

Sublime/Sixpack

I find that an automotive stethoscope helps in pin pointing noises.
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

Tilar

If it is a flex plate or loose converter bolts, the knock will go away if you put it in gear, put your foot on the brake and bring it just a little above an idle.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.