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New LED 68 Taillights!

Started by Hemidog, October 03, 2009, 02:23:18 PM

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Hemidog


bull

Those look pretty cool. You can/could also get an LED wafer that went behind the stock lense but I haven't seen those lately.

A383Wing

There's another thread here somewhere....somebody is-has already made them for the 69-70 Chargers as well....it's one big flat LED light panel that fits behind the lens. They are in the stage to make them for the 66-67 Chargers as well

Here is video of the 2nd Gen lights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoKJ6AvGqM

Here is his ebay store  http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Restore-a-Muscle-Car-LLC

Hemidog

Quote from: A383Wing on October 03, 2009, 07:42:53 PM
There's another thread here somewhere....somebody is-has already made them for the 69-70 Chargers as well....it's one big flat LED light panel that fits behind the lens. They are in the stage to make them for the 66-67 Chargers as well

Here is video of the 2nd Gen lights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoKJ6AvGqM

Here is his ebay store  http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Restore-a-Muscle-Car-LLC


Yep, and Autodynamics are making them too.

Received a message from the auction:
"No, we don't.

But before you say "forget it if I can't see them in action," please look at our feedback. Skim over the various feedback from LED tail/parking/backup lights we've sold. Hope that will provide you with some confidence.

If not, no hard feelings. We understand."

Forget it then  :rotz: I'm not gonna spend $140 on lights I havent seen in action, good feedback or not.

68charger383

Quote from: A383Wing on October 03, 2009, 07:42:53 PM
There's another thread here somewhere....somebody is-has already made them for the 69-70 Chargers as well....it's one big flat LED light panel that fits behind the lens. They are in the stage to make them for the 66-67 Chargers as well

Here is video of the 2nd Gen lights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoKJ6AvGqM

Here is his ebay store  http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Restore-a-Muscle-Car-LLC


I think Norway Charger was the first one to do the LCD upgrade:  
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,9936.0.html

I'm more concerned with the "you may need to upgrade to an LCD flasher" why don't they know this by now?
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2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10

A383Wing

Electronic flasher is only $10 at Schucks....I got them in most of my cars...nice steady flash with any load on the system...I don't have LED's in any of my cars...

dkn1997

Quote from: Hemidog on October 04, 2009, 08:17:36 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on October 03, 2009, 07:42:53 PM
There's another thread here somewhere....somebody is-has already made them for the 69-70 Chargers as well....it's one big flat LED light panel that fits behind the lens. They are in the stage to make them for the 66-67 Chargers as well

Here is video of the 2nd Gen lights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoKJ6AvGqM

Here is his ebay store  http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Restore-a-Muscle-Car-LLC


Yep, and Autodynamics are making them too.

Received a message from the auction:
"No, we don't.

But before you say "forget it if I can't see them in action," please look at our feedback. Skim over the various feedback from LED tail/parking/backup lights we've sold. Hope that will provide you with some confidence.

If not, no hard feelings. We understand."

Forget it then  :rotz: I'm not gonna spend $140 on lights I havent seen in action, good feedback or not.


I gambled and ordered these.   They got here today and I put in one side.  haven't tried the signals yet, I was just playing around with the brakes and park lights.  It's like looking into the sun.  The difference is huge!  

you can't even buy new replacement lenses for under 200.  for 150 you get these new lenses with LED's.  That's a pretty good deal in my book.


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dkn1997

far away view
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dkn1997

and the video. besides how bright they are, notice how much quicker they come on when my 5 year old puts his foot to the pedal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_eSLshI6s0
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A383Wing

I would be interested in seeing what the "light" difference is when the parking lights are on and then step on the brake.

dkn1997

Quote from: A383Wing on October 09, 2009, 08:16:37 PM
I would be interested in seeing what the "light" difference is when the parking lights are on and then step on the brake.

it's huge.  cameras always do a lousy job (at least in my hands) of capturing the true effect of any lights, headlights, tailights....

These things are so bright
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bull

Thanks for the review. :2thumbs: Looks like they're worth the money to me. And I love the NY accent. ;D

dkn1997

Quote from: bull on October 09, 2009, 09:11:58 PM
Thanks for the review. :2thumbs: Looks like they're worth the money to me. And I love the NY accent. ;D

christ, I really do sound "ny"  :RantExplode:  ....  I'm not even from the city, I grew up in the suburbs
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Silver R/T

I saw these before, not sure about these. They just don;t look right imo and I prefer stock ones
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dkn1997

Quote from: Silver R/T on October 09, 2009, 10:39:11 PM
I saw these before, not sure about these. They just don;t look right imo and I prefer stock ones

They sure don't look stock, but I'll take brighter and less delay time any day of the week.  it's packed out here in the metro NY area and everyone's in a big f'ing hurry.... the more visible I am the better. 
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Khyron

hmmmmmmmm, not sure if I like the 69 ones.


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METROID

Very nice I really like the brightness and the faster reaction time. I'd have to say though if I made the swap I would miss the slow dieing of those tail lamps but then again we never get to see them turn off anyway.

dkn1997

Quote from: A383Wing on October 09, 2009, 08:16:37 PM
I would be interested in seeing what the "light" difference is when the parking lights are on and then step on the brake.

from your lips to gods ear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWKGw6gD9vk
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dkn1997

Quote from: Hemidog on October 03, 2009, 02:23:18 PM
These look pretty good!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390100875945&_trksid=p2759.l1259

I've asked him about a demonstration video...

That guy should pay me. I just made his demonstration video for him.   :icon_smile_big:
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Hemidog

Quote from: dkn1997 on October 10, 2009, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Hemidog on October 03, 2009, 02:23:18 PM
These look pretty good!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390100875945&_trksid=p2759.l1259

I've asked him about a demonstration video...

That guy should pay me. I just made his demonstration video for him.   :icon_smile_big:
They look really nice! maybe i'll buy a pair after all..
I don't see why he wouldnt make a vid or a picture of them in action, It would probably make them sell better.

dkn1997

Quote from: Hemidog on October 10, 2009, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: dkn1997 on October 10, 2009, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Hemidog on October 03, 2009, 02:23:18 PM
These look pretty good!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390100875945&_trksid=p2759.l1259

I've asked him about a demonstration video...

That guy should pay me. I just made his demonstration video for him.   :icon_smile_big:
They look really nice! maybe i'll buy a pair after all..
I don't see why he wouldnt make a vid or a picture of them in action, It would probably make them sell better.

I don't know how he's able to sell them for this price when lenses alone are 85 bucks more.  wasn't someone selling the LED wafers that go into the lenses for 450.00 a while back?
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bull

Quote from: dkn1997 on October 09, 2009, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: bull on October 09, 2009, 09:11:58 PM
Thanks for the review. :2thumbs: Looks like they're worth the money to me. And I love the NY accent. ;D

christ, I really do sound "ny"  :RantExplode: 

Yup. Especially to a guy from Oregon. :icon_smile_big:

Tilar

Quote from: bull on October 10, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: dkn1997 on October 09, 2009, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: bull on October 09, 2009, 09:11:58 PM
Thanks for the review. :2thumbs: Looks like they're worth the money to me. And I love the NY accent. ;D

christ, I really do sound "ny"  :RantExplode:  

Yup. Especially to a guy from Oregon. :icon_smile_big:

And after spending close to 30 years in Texas...   :hah:  I have some friends in New York and I'm always making fun of the way they talk... Course they do the same with me.  :lol:


I think I actually like the lights.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



charger2fast4u

those tail lights are pretty nice. some people just don't know how to do business. yea he's a good seller but with anything a demonstration seals the deal. i can only imagine how many sales he let slip because of not having a demonstration. anyone else do the light upgrade that norway charger did or have a demo of his lite up? i'd really like to see how his looks compaired to the ones in ebay ad.

dkn1997

Quote from: charger2fast4u on October 12, 2009, 05:32:58 AM
those tail lights are pretty nice. some people just don't know how to do business. yea he's a good seller but with anything a demonstration seals the deal. i can only imagine how many sales he let slip because of not having a demonstration. anyone else do the light upgrade that norway charger did or have a demo of his lite up? i'd really like to see how his looks compaired to the ones in ebay ad.

Norways use @200 led bulbs.  Mine use 25.  His look more natural, like a bulb on steroids.  light fills the entire lense.  with mine, they look a bit more bling where you can see the individual bulbs.  for someone concerned with looking stock, the ones norway used would fit the bill a lot better albeit with double the pricetag (I think they are 300)  
I'm no expert, but i'd say that norways use smaller led's and more of them.  Mine are almost too bright and if his has 8x the amount of the same exact led's, you could get a sunburn off of it.  Here is a pic of his.  Notice how they look just like the pics I posted of my old bulbs on the drivers side...just much much brighter.  also, his appear to focus the light all in the center of the lens where mine have some in the center and some on the outside edge.  clearly his cost more because there are more led's.
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charger2fast4u

thanks for posting the picture of norways any chance you have one taken in the dark to?


dkn1997

Just an update...

from what I read before putting these bulbs in, I knew I would need a new LED flasher.  since I still have the fronts as standard 1157 bulbs for now and the hood turn signals, my old flasher was still working...but slow.

I bought an LED flasher and installed it and it made a really big difference. signals start flashing immediately and at the rate of a new car. 

I wanted to pass along some info though. When I plugged my new fancy-pants flasher in, I got nothing!  nothing lit up or flashed at all.  I noticed my new flasher had a wire hanging off of it too.  I grounded that and still got nothing.

since the packaging didn't come with any instructions, I contacted the vendor (same company and vendor who made these tailights) and he told me something interesting:  he said that on a lot of old cars this happens and that the wires need to be swapped on the flasher harness.  I didn't want to cut up the wiring, so I made jumpers out of some spade terminals and it worked. 
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8WHEELER

Is the LED Flasher unit pretty much mandatory with these new LED lenses?

Maybe its just the fact that its just a newer car, but I run after market LED brake
lights in my 95 Dodge Ram, and both trailers I have, are loaded with LED lights, one
trailer has 15 running lights, and 4, four inch brake lights, and all light are extremely
bright, and the turn signals work just the same as before changing and adding all the
LED lights.

Just curios   :scratchchin: 

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

dkn1997

mine were flashing a bit slower so that's why i made the change.  maybe it was just a 40 year old flasher causing it... I have heard mixed opinions as to whether or not it's necessary.  for a few bucks, i like what I got.
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70yell500

dkn1997,

I just installed these same LED taillights on my 68 Charger and the difference is like night and day!  If anything, it's a matter of being safer on the streets and letting everyone know you're going to turn left or right so they can see you and back off!  I need to get the LED Flasher next and was hoping my local auto parts would have the LED flasher needed for these taillights, looks like I'm out of luck.  Do you have the contact info for the vendor to get the correct LED Flasher?

Thanks
Eddie
Bronze '68 Charger
1970 Charger Resto-Mod
1970 Charger Black Beauty 440
1968 Charger 318 (soon to have 383-4speed)

bakerhillpins

Quote from: dkn1997
he said that on a lot of old cars this happens and that the wires need to be swapped on the flasher harness.  I didn't want to cut up the wiring, so I made jumpers out of some spade terminals and it worked.

I suspect that it's because the wires are/were randomly inserted because it doesn't matter which direction current flows to the light bulbs. Standard bulbs don't care about polarity but LEDs do. LEDs are diodes which only allow current to flow in one direction. Backwards and no current flows so no light.

Quote from: dkn1997 on December 19, 2009, 12:31:56 PM
mine were flashing a bit slower so that's why i made the change.  maybe it was just a 40 year old flasher causing it... I have heard mixed opinions as to whether or not it's necessary.  for a few bucks, i like what I got.

Typically flashers operate using a cheap metal "switch" that when heated up by the current flow causes the metal to deform, it curls and breaks the connection. When it cools down it springs back to close the "switch". This process repeats and causes the lights to flash...
The big kick (besides brightness) on LEDs is that they use MUCH less power and therefore draw less current. As a result the cheap metal switch meant for higher current conditions takes longer to heat up, deform, and break contact. So it appears to blink slower. The LED versions use a thinner piece of metal or may even do it electronically now.. where it monitors the current, when it is cut back it blinks faster. to warn of a burned out bulb.

The Lights look freaking cool!  :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:


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the reflection area is being killed...


but looks A LOT BETTER than the squared housing adaptations




I don't think the outer ring did need to be filled though... maybe for more stockish look... just an opinion


I still think HIDs and LEDs are killer for the rest of drivers. I try to drive on traffic on back of a new SUV with those newer multiple LEDS and those got me blind, getting tired my view
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Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

dkn1997

Quote from: 70yell500 on January 14, 2010, 07:14:27 PM
dkn1997,

I just installed these same LED taillights on my 68 Charger and the difference is like night and day!  If anything, it's a matter of being safer on the streets and letting everyone know you're going to turn left or right so they can see you and back off!  I need to get the LED Flasher next and was hoping my local auto parts would have the LED flasher needed for these taillights, looks like I'm out of luck.  Do you have the contact info for the vendor to get the correct LED Flasher?

Thanks
Eddie
Bronze '68 Charger

allintown is the sellers name on ebay, linky to his ebay store;
http://stores.ebay.com/allintown__W0QQ_sacatZallintownQQ_sidZ42012976?_nkw=led+flasher&submit=Search
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70yell500

dkn1997;

Thanks for the info, just ordered one of those flashers.  Glad to be back on this site, a great source of information on our beloved Chargers!  Thanks again for the quick reply and getting me moving forward on my current project car.
-Eddie
1970 Charger Resto-Mod
1970 Charger Black Beauty 440
1968 Charger 318 (soon to have 383-4speed)

dkn1997

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