Aftermarket Transmission

[Troy]

They also told me that I could buy a transmission for my car and when I upgrade to a 440 all I will need is a big block torque converter not a whole new transmission

Find a new shop!

Troy

[dodgecharger72]

HAHA it does sound like I need a new shop. And thank you very much for extending your expertise RD. I am looking for an old 727 as we speak

[lisiecki1]

They also told me that I could buy a transmission for my car and when I upgrade to a 440 all I will need is a big block torque converter not a whole new transmission

they're full of it.....a trans for a small block will not mate to a big block, no if's and's or but's about it.  and I built my 727 using the same book listed above for around 500 dollars in parts, and i'll put it up against anything you could buy from TCI for twice the price.


edit:  i see i'm late to this topic......

[dodgecharger72]

Haha it's monday don't worry about it    And is that $500 for the tranny and parts or $500 for just parts?  And how complicated and involved was your rebuild?

[lisiecki1]

it was 500 for parts, i would think you can pick up a decent case for 100 or less, which still puts you hundreds of dollars ahead of the curve!  The rebuild sounded a whole lot more ominous than it really was.  I used Alto clutches, Kolene steels, Kevlar bands (next time i'll use red racing bands, i wanted to give the kevlar a try), a bolt in sprague, and a trans-go tf-3 valve body kit (which lets you set the valve body up your choice of 3 ways), and I believe I used a 4.2 lever, and a billet low/reverse piston.  I also made a couple of modifications to the case that were in the Carl Monroe book that was recommended to you earlier (Pick it up, excellent tool!).

[dodgecharger72]

Wow that sounds pretty impressive. How many hours did that rebuild take you?

[lisiecki1]

Wow that sounds pretty impressive. How many hours did that rebuild take you?

including all disassembly, cleaning, and painting it was probably around 8 hours total.  Building the 727 gave me the confidence to rebuild the trans in a friends honda, which was really cool because it was so much more involved, but his car runs like a top now

[dodgecharger72]

Thats pretty fast. And you're happy with the way it runs now?

[lisiecki1]

Thats pretty fast. And you're happy with the way it runs now?

VERY.

[dodgecharger72]

How mechanically inclined are you? I feel pretty comfortable around cars although I have never really messed with transmissions before

[lisiecki1]

How mechanically inclined are you? I feel pretty comfortable around cars although I have never really messed with transmissions before

i started building motors with my dad when i was 8, and I work as an engineering designer, so I'm fairly mechanically inclined.....I was worried about my first transmission build too, but the 727 is a very simple setup.  If you follow the book (I recommend reading through it first to familiarize yourself with everything) you shouldn't have any problems.  Plus, there are a good number of people on here that can answer any questions you may have during your rebuild.

[dodgecharger72]

You can bet I will be buggin all of you guys once my rebuild starts      

[dodgecharger72]

Is a new valve body mandatory for a rebuild?    Or is that just for better performance

[lisiecki1]

mostly performance related, but you can buy a transgo kit and use your old valve body and set it up however you want it....great kit....there's a TF3 kit in mine, Full manual, very firm shifts.

[Belgium R/T -68]

i started building motors with my dad when i was 8, and I work as an engineering designer, so I'm fairly mechanically inclined.....I was worried about my first transmission build too, but the 727 is a very simple setup.  If you follow the book (I recommend reading through it first to familiarize yourself with everything) you shouldn't have any problems.  Plus, there are a good number of people on here that can answer any questions you may have during your rebuild.

Looks like I found myself a transmissionbuilder for my Hemi Challenger.

Per

[lisiecki1]

i started building motors with my dad when i was 8, and I work as an engineering designer, so I'm fairly mechanically inclined.....I was worried about my first transmission build too, but the 727 is a very simple setup.  If you follow the book (I recommend reading through it first to familiarize yourself with everything) you shouldn't have any problems.  Plus, there are a good number of people on here that can answer any questions you may have during your rebuild.
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Looks like I found myself a transmissionbuilder for my Hemi Challenger.

Per
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I'm sure there are others on here with greater knowledge than myself, but I'd definately build you a good one Per!  Always happy to help! 

[dodgecharger72]

Alright sounds good. Not sure if I will start buying the parts now or start looking for an old tranny first but. Depends on my paycheck

[lisiecki1]

Buy the book first, there
Are 727s from different years that have larger input shafts and other things of that nature, it'll give you an idea of what to avoid and what is better overall for your application.

[dodgecharger72]

Oh yeah I almost forgot about that lol       What tools will I need for this?  do they transmission stands or something of that nature to mount it on

[lisiecki1]

i built mine on a work bench.....and I was able to build all the specialty tools i needed for the job also.

[dodgecharger72]

Alright I am gettin pretty excited for this rebuild     I just need to get this damn thing rewired. This month and maybe next months paycheck are going to the wiring harness, distributor, plug wires, and electronic ignition conversion

[lisiecki1]

if it's going to go behind some decent power you might also consider a deep pan and filter assembly 

[dodgecharger72]

It's going behind a mildly built 360. Would that warrant the deep pan anf filter?

[lisiecki1]

i would think you can get by with a stock pan and filter on that, but use a good quality external trans cooler, it will improve the life of the trans.

[Tilar]

It's going behind a mildly built 360. Would that warrant the deep pan anf filter?

I thought you were putting a 440 in it? You know they have a different bell housing pattern than a 360...