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Is WM23H1AXXXXXX necessarily a Super Bee?

Started by Pouria, September 30, 2009, 11:38:27 AM

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Pouria

September 30, 2009, 11:38:27 AM
Hi;
I recently saw a 71 Charger in my area and the owner insists that it is a Super Bee! The VIN is WM23H1AXXXXXX and the car is repainted andd has the Super Bee stripes on it! I know that 71 Super Bee comes with WM23 but does it mean all WM23s are Super Bee? I strongly doubt about its being a Super Bee at all!

Pouria

Ghoste

#1
September 30, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
Yes it is a Super Bee.

hemi68charger

#2
September 30, 2009, 11:40:07 AM
Nope,,, it's a Superbee...........

www.71superbee.com

Is it for sale? I'd like to replace the one I used to have.

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

rcapooch

#3
September 30, 2009, 11:52:20 AM
Yes it is. I have a 71 Bee, and I researched the WM23 vin before I bought the car.  :D

Pouria

#4
September 30, 2009, 12:35:24 PM
Thanks for your fast and clean replies. He may want to sell it but I live in Iran ;) Actually I never have thought to see a Super Bee around, I am happy to know that we have one in Iran.

Pouria

hemi68charger

#5
September 30, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: Pouria on September 30, 2009, 12:35:24 PM
Thanks for your fast and clean replies. He may want to sell it but I live in Iran ;) Actually I never have thought to see a Super Bee around, I am happy to know that we have one in Iran.

Pouria

Well, shot then... If I get redeployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, I'll just swing by and take a look............  A Superbee in Iran, that's a first for me........
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

6bblgt

#6
September 30, 2009, 04:34:40 PM
A 340 '71 SuperBee is a rare car with only 320 built for USA + any built for EXport & CANADA.

JohnnyBee

#7
September 30, 2009, 05:48:33 PM
All Super Bee's from 1968-1971 started with WM
In 1968 you could only get a Coupe (21)
For '69 and '70 21=Coupe and 23=Hardtop
And for 1971 only 23 Hardtops on Super Bees

So WM23H1= Super Bee, Hardtop, 340, Year 1971

1971 Chargers used a W
M = Super Bee
23 = Charger 2 Dr. H/Top
H= 340 4bbl V-8 275hp

I think the Bee you are looking at is this one:


Tilar

#9
October 24, 2009, 03:41:22 AM
Nice car.  :2thumbs:
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.


68charger383

#10
October 24, 2009, 09:33:59 AM
Very nice car, I like that driveway even more.
1968 Charger 383(Sold)
2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10

Nacho-RT74

#11
October 24, 2009, 09:41:11 AM
well still needs a good body and paint job, but the car looks really nice. I like the "matched" interior with exterior, just that the local upholstery job could it be made better. Still good try and good idea :thumbs:

the Sedans 75 and later side mirros looks nice too on it. They are not sporty like the Cup kind ones, but still nice.

the exhaust are a little bit tiny :s

manual car ? or just a pistol grip on to auto shifter ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Pouria

#12
October 24, 2009, 01:47:21 PM
It is a manual car having A833 on it from factory. The owner says only 39 manuals are made in 1971 with 340 Super Bee! Is it true?

71superbee

#13
October 24, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Only 39 340 4speed 71 Super Bees.... Thanks to John Bober for this info @ 71superbee.com

Production Numbers of '71 Super Bee 
Number Motor Option Transmission 
2,889 383 Magnum HD automatic 
766 383 Magnum 4-speed 
203 383 Magnum 3-speed 
268 340 4bbl HD automatic 
39 340 4bbl 4-speed 
69 440 Six Pack HD automatic 
30 440 Six Pack 4-speed 
26 440 4bbl (no trans. breakdown) 
13 426 Hemi HD automatic 
9 426 Hemi 4-speed

hemi-hampton

#14
October 24, 2009, 02:53:26 PM
The 383 was standard motor on this car, The 340 was a extra cost option. Most people payed a extra cost option to upgrade to a bigger motor like a 440, 440+6 or Hemi on most other Mopars, Nobody really wanted to pay extra to downgrade to a 340 hence the low production #'s on such a car. And even though the 440 was not a option on this particular car at least 3 (figure from 10 years ago) are known to exist. It maybe would lower your insurance going from a big block to small at that time. LEON.

rcapooch

#15
October 24, 2009, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: 71superbee on October 24, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Only 39 340 4speed 71 Super Bees.... Thanks to John Bober for this info @ 71superbee.com

Production Numbers of '71 Super Bee 
Number Motor Option Transmission 
2,889 383 Magnum HD automatic 
766 383 Magnum 4-speed 
203 383 Magnum 3-speed 
268 340 4bbl HD automatic 
39 340 4bbl 4-speed 
69 440 Six Pack HD automatic 
30 440 Six Pack 4-speed 
26 440 4bbl (no trans. breakdown) 
13 426 Hemi HD automatic 
9 426 Hemi 4-speed




How many were Export cars ?

69CoronetRT

#16
October 24, 2009, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: rcapooch on October 24, 2009, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: 71superbee on October 24, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Only 39 340 4speed 71 Super Bees.... Thanks to John Bober for this info @ 71superbee.com

Production Numbers of '71 Super Bee 
Number Motor Option Transmission 
2,889 383 Magnum HD automatic 
766 383 Magnum 4-speed 
203 383 Magnum 3-speed 
268 340 4bbl HD automatic 
39 340 4bbl 4-speed 
69 440 Six Pack HD automatic 
30 440 Six Pack 4-speed 
26 440 4bbl (no trans. breakdown) 
13 426 Hemi HD automatic 
9 426 Hemi 4-speed




How many were Export cars ?

Export numbers are unknown
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

rcapooch

#17
October 24, 2009, 04:52:05 PM
The reason i asked, My fender tag is coded as an export car.

hemi-hampton

#18
October 25, 2009, 01:20:54 AM
Lets see a Pic of tag? LEON.

rcapooch

#19
October 25, 2009, 01:44:01 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on October 25, 2009, 01:20:54 AM
Lets see a Pic of tag? LEON.

Go to cars for sale, go down to 71 superbee, click on the photobucket link, there is a couple of pictures of my tags.

hemi68charger

#20
October 25, 2009, 08:09:08 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on October 24, 2009, 02:53:26 PM
... And even though the 440 was not a option on this particular car at least 3 (figure from 10 years ago) are known to exist. It maybe would lower your insurance going from a big block to small at that time. LEON.

Yeap. I've seen one. A white one down in the Broward County area of Florida during the NEBA days ( the best cruise spot in South Florida during the 80's, hamburger joint on the corner of US 1 and Sunrise Blvd). There was also an Autumn Bronze one for sale, IIRC, on ebaymotors a few years ago.......

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Brock Samson

#21
October 25, 2009, 10:33:37 AM
Yes climbing insurance rates for Big Block cars was the reason for the 340 inclusion in '71, 1,681 Plymouth Road Runners were made with this engine mid Yr. Intro and fairly rare. they begin with "RM" in the Vin.

tan top

#23
June 27, 2010, 05:18:17 AM
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

hemi68charger

#24
June 28, 2010, 09:54:50 AM
Nice pictures.. Love the color............ Not sure if you're going to get in trouble with the local government, but that American flag on the lower rear valance might get some attention..  :icon_smile_cool:

Not too many classics over there for a car show, no?...........  At least it's dry over there, don't have to worry about rust...........
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69*F5*SE

#25
June 28, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
Now that is a complete trip that it's over in Iran.  Great looking Superbee.   :yesnod:

69*F5*SE

#26
June 28, 2010, 11:19:48 AM
Oops!  double post.

hemi68charger

#27
June 28, 2010, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: 69*F5*SE on June 28, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
Now that is a complete trip that it's over in Iran.  Great looking Superbee.   :yesnod:

Back in '71, the Shah and the US were allies (us older guys remember the Shah of Iran),,,,,,,,,, so no embargo then.. Importing American cars probably happened frequently..........
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69*F5*SE

#28
June 28, 2010, 12:56:51 PM
I'm 44 so I remember the Shah when I was much younger.  Yeah, you're right, we were allies then and cars had to have crossed over.  He sure got his hands on a nice one.  Not the Shah, the new guy.   :lol:
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