J code B5 C500 on Ebay

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   what a machine   , think the owner is / was   a member on here ,  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Hemi-Charger-500-4-Speed-Matching-s_W0QQitemZ140348184505QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item20ad6757b9&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

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[richRTSE]

  I love that car! It's absolutely beautiful! I am a bit confused though. Maybe this car has been discussed before, but here is my question...I know some of the early 500s had the XS vin instead of XX. My September 29th car has XS on the fender tag but does have the XX on the vin tag. It also has the A11 code which this blue car does not. Do the XS vin cars not have the A11 code? And is Galen's 559 a legit number?

[PocketThunder]

I love that car! It's absolutely beautiful! I am a bit confused though. Maybe this car has been discussed before, but here is my question...I know some of the early 500s had the XS vin instead of XX. My September 29th car has XS on the fender tag but does have the XX on the vin tag. It also has the A11 code which this blue car does not. Do the XS vin cars not have the A11 code? And is Galen's 559 a legit number?

I was just thinking the same thing as that was the first thing i looked for.  It was built 4 days before my car and i had the XX vin and A11 on the tag.   

[richRTSE]

I guess I needed to read a little closer, I just answered my own question. I read Galen's note:

NOTE: The dash VIN and fender tag do not identify this vehicle as a real Charger 500, this is the only 500 I
have found that is not identified by VIN or fender tag, only by the VON and assembly as a Charger 500.

[PocketThunder]

I guess I needed to read a little closer, I just answered my own question. I read Galen's note:

NOTE: The dash VIN and fender tag do not identify this vehicle as a real Charger 500, this is the only 500 I
have found that is not identified by VIN or fender tag, only by the VON and assembly as a Charger 500.

yep that is correct now that you mention it.  VON 925416
my car was 925410

[RAC95054]

I saw this car at our big Mopar show at Ohlone College in June, and I could have sworn I took a picture of the fender tag and it said it was an automatic car (even though it did have the 4-speed in it).  Now I'll have to dig it up when I get home.  It is definitely a beautiful car, but I did make note of some minor issues (things incorrect, or just not done perfectly) they could have done better on it for this type of car.

[Dans 68]

Here are the photos of the car that I took at the Ohlone show.

Dan

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got the A11 on that repop tag

[6bblgt]

 

different vin & von numbers?  same car?

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different vin & von numbers?  same car?

good spot 
Doh  , never even looked at the vin     , different car !!

[Ghoste]

But still nice! 

[Dans 68]

I don't think they are meant to be different cars, unless it is a coincidence that both owners are named John Fox.  I've attached the entry placard from the J code B5 500 at the '09 Ohlone show showing the owner's name. Something is not right....

Dan

[69_500]

Same owner, two completely different cars. Oddly enough though both cars were in Florida for a long time as well, and not that far apart from each other.

The car with XS is not the only one to be XS everywhere on the car. I can attest to at least 2 others.

[RAC95054]

Could it be they are two completely different cars, or that something fishy is going on here?   

[RAC95054]

Here are the photos of the car that I took at the Ohlone show.

Dan

I have nearly the identical pics, and that is the fender tag I referred to in my earlier post.  Note it's an auto (D32), but the car did have a 4-speed in it.

[mcode]

Odd, most definitely! I am aware that it's a super rare and desirable car, but isn't strange that it current bid is at $90,000 after day one?

[69_500]

I'll say it again. Two different cars in this thread. Both HEMI 500's, both B5 blue with blue interiors, but 2 different cars, SAME OWNER.

[Dans 68]

I'll say it again. Two different cars in this thread. Both HEMI 500's, both B5 blue with blue interiors, but 2 different cars, SAME OWNER.

Yes, we know...some of us do read the previous threads. 

Makes perfect sense being two different cars. On a casual first glance they look identical, though! Kudos to the restorer(s). 

Dan

[C5X DAYTONA]

This Hemi 500 though is right in line with a few Hemi 500's all in a row.   210731,  210733,  210734, 210736,  (210737this car,)  210740 and 210742 are all Hemis.  The missing cars between all these I don't have on file.    Looks real with that correct von  9##### number

[PocketThunder]

Gosh it seems like you guy are talking about two different cars, but maybe they are the same one?..??   

[C5X DAYTONA]

Gosh it seems like you guy are talking about two different cars, but maybe they are the same one?..??   

I am talking about the topic car.  The other car has a fake tag so any ones guess on that one to what is really was. 

[69_500]

This Hemi 500 though is right in line with a few Hemi 500's all in a row.   210731,  210733,  210734, 210736,  (210737this car,)  210740 and 210742 are all Hemis.  The missing cars between all these I don't have on file.    Looks real with that correct von  9##### number

210731, 210732, 210733, 210734, 210735, 210736, 210739, 210740, 210741, 210742 are all HEMI's that I know of. All are cars I've got information on.

[69_500]

Gosh it seems like you guy are talking about two different cars, but maybe they are the same one?..??   

I am talking about the topic car.  The other car has a fake tag so any ones guess on that one to what is really was. 

It is also a legit HEMI 500 here is a photo of its tag from when it was for sale previously.

[hemi68charger]

Both awesome cars regardless.........

Troy

[C5X DAYTONA]

Gosh it seems like you guy are talking about two different cars, but maybe they are the same one?..??   

I am talking about the topic car.  The other car has a fake tag so any ones guess on that one to what is really was. 

It is also a legit HEMI 500 here is a photo of its tag from when it was for sale previously.

I wonder why someone made a repo tag when thay had this rotted one.   I guess so it doesn't get stolen.  Good Idea  but bad repro tag.    The C500 that you posted the rotted tag (138602) was converted to a Daytona very early in it's life was was  owned by J.C. Parker Dodge. 

[69_500]

Yes it was, and was wearing that nose and wing up until about a year ago when it was finally restored back to original specs as you see it in now.

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Yes it was, and was wearing that nose and wing up until about a year ago when it was finally restored back to original specs as you see it in now.

yeah i remember the car now , wasn't the matching #s transmission in Sweden or something 

[Highbanked Hauler]

This Hemi 500 though is right in line with a few Hemi 500's all in a row.   210731,  210733,  210734, 210736,  (210737this car,)  210740 and 210742 are all Hemis.  The missing cars between all these I don't have on file.    Looks real with that correct von  9##### number

210731, 210732, 210733, 210734, 210735, 210736, 210739, 210740, 210741, 210742 are all HEMI's that I know of. All are cars I've got information on.

  So  HERG's 500 and mine  166356 was built before these,correct?

[nascarxx29]

138602 was the 500 done as a daytona

That this hemi 69 500 that became a daytona.And heres it story of 138602 **Inactive Link Removed**.
That also may be the Ed Chappell car in Elkin NC in my wingcar ad collection.And it had been on ebay before and in FL http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,11245.0.html

[69_500]

This Hemi 500 though is right in line with a few Hemi 500's all in a row.   210731,  210733,  210734, 210736,  (210737this car,)  210740 and 210742 are all Hemis.  The missing cars between all these I don't have on file.    Looks real with that correct von  9##### number

210731, 210732, 210733, 210734, 210735, 210736, 210739, 210740, 210741, 210742 are all HEMI's that I know of. All are cars I've got information on.

  So  HERG's 500 and mine  166356 was built before these,correct?

Yuppers Al, Your car and Herg's 500's were built before all of those listed, at least built VIN wise before and at Chrysler. Now whether or not they were converted at Creative before those is a different story.