The 30 POINT BUCK!

[PocketThunder]

That right, the infamous 30 point buck was recently harvested in my home state of Wisconsin.  We dream about tagging this monster every year..   

I only gun hunt, and the bow hunters usually have their pick of the nice ones taken before gun season starts. 

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Oh and here's the song that makes him famous.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Utt_XgcWv8

[Silver R/T]

I don't see whole point of killing an animal

[Tilar]

I don't see whole point of killing an animal

If you had a couple grand in seed and fertilizer only to have these bastards eat half your crop, You'd see the point and you'd be damn glad that hunters came in to thin them out.

[c00nhunterjoe]

they dont eat half of mine, just the first 12 rows all the way around the field.....   plus once you shoot them, you get to eat them 

[TruckDriver]

That guy lives 10 minutes from me, and he got it a few closer miles from me.

I heard on the news this morning, that Wisconsin is thinking about extending the gun/deer season to 16 days because there are too many deer in the state.

[bull]

I don't see whole point of killing an animal

Don't be a retard.

[RD]

silver, you eat mcdonalds dont you?  well.. there is your "point".

[67_Dodge_Charger]

That is a nice buck.  Did he green score it yet?  We don't have too many big bucks like that here in Montana.

[Neal_J]

Don't be a retard.

Thanks Bull.  Yet another liquid-out-the-nostrils moment caused by one of your comments.   

[69bronzeT5]

If that was the only 30 point buck out there, I would of left it alone...

[Forza]

If that was the only 30 point buck out there, I would of left it alone...

I'm sure bambi is happy with that statement but all I can think is  It's a deer. High deer populations demolish crops. Farmers live off of their crop sales. Seems pretty simple to a midwesterner like me.

[Silver R/T]

silver, you eat mcdonalds dont you?  well.. there is your "point".

nope, no fast food for me. Always bring home cooked meals to work....once in a while I'll have some donuts

[greenpigs]

My only thing about hunting is you should eat what is killed, unless bad shot.

[bull]

silver, you eat mcdonalds dont you?  well.. there is your "point".

nope, no fast food for me. Always bring home cooked meals to work....once in a while I'll have some donuts

Unless you're a strict vegan you're being hypocritical. Do you eat any meat, do you wear or use leather, do you use any products with animal fat? Do you use pet food or paint brushes or soap or dairy products, glue, shoes, brake fluid, synthetic motor oil or luggage? Pull your head out of your keester, silver. It's a lot easier to see that way.

[moparguy01]

Hey bull, don't forget that plants are living things too. eating them is murder. 


besides deers are tasty critters. Its awesome to see that such an animal still exists, and if that ever got between my crosshairs it would be as good as on the wall.

[Ranger Max]

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[Charger74]

Silver,

When you have an over population of deer like we do in the midwest.  Trust me, hunting is not only critical, but essential in that it helps keep you from hitting them in your car. 

Besides, you can eat a long time off a one deer.   HMMM!!! nothing like some good deer sausage or venision jerky....

[Tilar]

they dont eat half of mine, just the first 12 rows all the way around the field.....   plus once you shoot them, you get to eat them 

Well same here but I only put out enough corn to feed out 3 steers a year so in my case, that's half my corn.    We lease out most of our ground but part of what we get paid is based on what he produces.

HMMM!!! nothing like some good deer sausage or venision jerky....

  Man I love venison jerky.

[PocketThunder]

    Dammit, now i cant wait till my deer that i havent shot yet is back from the meat locker...   

[moparguy01]

thats why I butcher my own. No waiting. You learn where the good cuts are real quick like.

[1BAD68]

I used to deer hunt for years in Wisconsin and I've never seen a deer go to waste that was killed, even the unfortunate car vs. deer in gun season is quickly butchered.
Besides, theres nothing wrong with killing deer, just ask any motorcycle driver here.

[ZSmithersCharges]

I used to deer hunt for years in Wisconsin and I've never seen a deer go to waste that was killed, even the unfortunate car vs. deer in gun season is quickly butchered.
Besides, theres nothing wrong with killing deer, just ask any motorcycle driver here.

Last year I went to Panama Florida for vacation and there were guys beside us from wisco... you don't lie they brought it with them!  Best neighbors I've ever had!

[rustafarian]

What's the point?
Besides eating crops they wreck a LOT of cars,  including a Daytona in the aero section last month. 
Lose a friend to a deer in the road and you'll go shopping for a rifle too.

[Silver R/T]

What's the point?
Besides eating crops they wreck a LOT of cars,  including a Daytona in the aero section last month. 
Lose a friend to a deer in the road and you'll go shopping for a rifle too.

Agree, let's kill all the deers! Other day I had porcupine on the road, almost busted my tire. Let's exterminate those too! There were numerous attacks on little children with bulldogs, let's exterminate them and ban them everywhere. Let's just get rid of anything that could hurt us or our friends. What a joyous world it would be....kind of like heaven??

[Forza]

It's pretty pathetic that you are so narrow minded that you can't even see the point of population control. No one said, "Hey let's wipe out every deer on the planet!" Keep rambling your idiotic messages Silver, some day you might be right.

[ZSmithersCharges]

 

[PocketThunder]

thats why I butcher my own. No waiting. You learn where the good cuts are real quick like.

We cut up our own deer also.  then take the bags of raw meat to the locker to have made into jerky and hot dogs, etc..  We save the loins for our own end of the year feast..      dammit now i'm getting anxious again to hunt..

[dodgecharger-fan]

It's not just about what they do to "us."

Too many is bad for them, as well.

Unchecked, they can expand their population to a point where they eat themselves into ruin.

Best known example that I can think of: there's an island in the middle of the Niagara river with a deer population on it. They get there on an ice bridge during the winter. If hunters don't go over there every year and cull the herd, they'll all eventually die. Never mind that they ruin the entire habitat there and are endangering other animals trying to survive there. And this all happens before they have a chance to get back off of the island by the next winter...

Looking at this from the "us" perspective, if Ogg and Grogg thought there was no point in killing an animal, it's more than likely that we'd all just not exist right now.   We'd either have eaten everything on our "island" or something else would have eaten us.


Oh and nice buck, by the way.
I'll admit I'm not a hunter myself, unless routing through the meat counter at the grocery store counts.

[GPULLER]

What about all the poor innocent hogs that have to die to make that venison taste good!  

As an estimator at a body shop, I like the over population of deer.  Just kidding, shoot whatever you can!

[Dans 68]

Hunting...where to start. I tried to this morning (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,62052.msg692007.html#msg692007) and had a great time hiking up and down the valleys looking for a pig (my buddy and I also had a deer tag so we were prepared for either  ). Didn't see a damn critter except for the spiders and snakes. Still had a great time. It is not a matter of enjoying killing (there is always a small part of me that regrets doing it...hell, when I dive for abalone I always slightly regret killing them just so I can feast on their meat...no difference 'tween the animals to me), but rather it is the necessity of doing it. Food is primary, but protecting your livelihood (crops) is also a primary reason. Silver, serious question; are you a practicing vegetarian? If so then I respect your views but don't agree with them.  

Dan

[Tilar]

It's pretty pathetic that you are so narrow minded that you can't even see the point of population control. No one said, "Hey let's wipe out every deer on the planet!" Keep rambling your idiotic messages Silver, some day you might be right.

I agree. Lets see here, Since virtually everything that he stuffs in his mouth (ok maybe not everything) comes from a farmer or someone that raises crops of some sort, maybe Silver would like paying $6 for a can of sweet corn or a head of lettuce. And since the deer and other critters have already ate their share, and somebody has to pay for it.

[Silver R/T]

Just so you guys know we grow our own produce, zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few. Some of it gets canned also for winter.

[ZSmithersCharges]

What about all the poor innocent hogs that have to die to make that venison taste good!  

As an estimator at a body shop, I like the over population of deer.  Just kidding, shoot whatever you can!

I don't think your kidding at all you sly fox you! 

[Brock Samson]

 

[ZSmithersCharges]

Just so you guys know we grow our own produce, zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few. Some of it gets canned also for winter.

While I don't fully agree with your views I do agree with your actions.  Being self sufficient is the number one thing to making a lifestyle sustainable, to make sure that you don't overstep your boundaries and become wasteful as so many around us have(including myself at times).  So carry on with the point you are trying to make as this has nothing to do with it but I just wanted to give you a thumbs up  

And just for everyone else, the point of his message I don't agree on is hunting, I believe hunting is a necessary part of our culture and survival. We have it maintained(ie. hunting season/permits) that our actions are not only acceptable/sustainable as hunters they are necessary in the fact that overpopulation has adverse effects on any ecosystem.

[moparguy01]

Just so you guys know we grow our own produce, zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few. Some of it gets canned also for winter.

I just don't see the point in killing a defenseless plant. I mean, what did it do to you?

[Nitrox]

I don't see whole point of killing an animal

[6d9 charger]

SILVER ,

FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN READING , YOU SHOULD SELL YOUR CHARGER AND BUY A HYBRID , EAT NOTHING BUT TOFU , AND GO HUG SOME TREES ,

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A NICE VENICN CUTLET OR SOME SAUSAGE , NO ONE HERE SAID SHOOT THEM FOR TARGET PRACTICE .

I BET YOUR THE KIND THAT  THINKS GUNS KILL PEOPLE, NOT PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE .  

I AM DONE !!!!

[mopar73]

During the early 90's I was driving from college in mankato, mn back home to stevens point, wi just about every weekend and I went through a terrible string of bad luck hitting 5 deer in 3 years in cars and trucks, including my poor old 73, which wasn't feasable to repair at the time, all in wi.  Yes, I hunt not only for the meat but for the safety of all.

[PocketThunder]

During the early 90's I was driving from college in mankato, mn back home to stevens point, wi just about every weekend and I went through a terrible string of bad luck hitting 5 deer in 3 years in cars and trucks, including my poor old 73, which wasn't feasable to repair at the time, all in wi.  Yes, I hunt not only for the meat but for the safety of all.

My god, that was drive from hell.  . i dont envy you at all.  My drive from college to home was 30 miles.   but i only did it 3 times a year...      

[Tilar]

Just so you guys know we grow our own produce, zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few. Some of it gets canned also for winter.

Not everybody has the luxury of growing their own food. What about meat, do you eat any of that? It cost almost as much to raise corn to feed cows as it does to raise corn for human consumption.

[Silver R/T]

Just so you guys know we grow our own produce, zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few. Some of it gets canned also for winter.

Not everybody has the luxury of growing their own food. What about meat, do you eat any of that? It cost almost as much to raise corn to feed cows as it does to raise corn for human consumption.

It's not really a luxury to grow a few tomato plants in your back yard. Get small plants from local grocery store/greenhouse etc and you're set up with tomatoes for rest of year
I know, but I'm not the one mandating 10%ethanol gas either.

[SeattleCharger]

p's me off this whole thinning the herd thing is so accepted and encouraged in midwest, but all the tree huggers here can't see the good sense in it and apply it to the see lions, because the dam sea lions are overpopulated in california so they are coming up here and they eat a shit load of salmon everyday, then we fishermen have to pay for our license and can only used single barbless hooks and have a very short season and have to release non-hatchery fish, blah blah, when the dam sealions just sit in front of the fish ladders and suck up the salmon all day long.  the seals sit at the fishing dock and when you tire out a fish, if you even can catch one ever, they just grab it when you are about to get it in your net.   The sea lions are protected by law, the the salmon are endangered species.  if the sea lions are so numerous, why do they get precident over the salmon, total bs.    They should let hunters shoot the sea lions, and feed em to the homeless or something.  they are dumb stupid annoying big fat lazy greedy good for nothing sea pigs that should all be shot and killed.  
  they spent 175K? to trap this one that sat at the ballard locks at the fish ladder, the city even named him, they sent his ass to california or something, and he swam all the way back and parked his ass there again and just ate all the salmon that we fishermen pay for to try and save, and get slim slim pickings on and high strict regulations, and this thing is protected and they want to "save" him, I agree with killing the thing.   Ya, that 30 point buck is a beautiful specimen, sad to see him killed, but I can see the point of the midwesterners that suffer losses to overpopulations of deer.  and there are no 30 point sea lions, just annoying loud fat fu#$%ers that eat hundreds of endangered wild salmon EACH, (well, they eat a hell uv a lot) everyday.

[Tilar]

Not everybody has the luxury of growing their own food. What about meat, do you eat any of that? It cost almost as much to raise corn to feed cows as it does to raise corn for human consumption.

It's not really a luxury to grow a few tomato plants in your back yard. Get small plants from local grocery store/greenhouse etc and you're set up with tomatoes for rest of year
I know, but I'm not the one mandating 10%ethanol gas either.

So which is it? a few tomato plants in your back yard or is it "zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few."? And what does ethenol gas have to do with raising food and shooting deer?

[Silver R/T]

Not everybody has the luxury of growing their own food. What about meat, do you eat any of that? It cost almost as much to raise corn to feed cows as it does to raise corn for human consumption.

It's not really a luxury to grow a few tomato plants in your back yard. Get small plants from local grocery store/greenhouse etc and you're set up with tomatoes for rest of year
I know, but I'm not the one mandating 10%ethanol gas either.

So which is it? a few tomato plants in your back yard or is it "zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers... just to name a few."? And what does ethenol gas have to do with raising food and shooting deer?

Yes, we do have all of the above. It didn't happen overnight so you know. Trees were planted years ago and now investment is returning as fruits.
What does ethanol have to do with it? Well it takes a LOT of corn and other produce to make ethanol that could've been used for human consumption or raising cattle.

[SeattleCharger]

and the deer eat the corn, so the deer get shot, makes sense

   now shoot the sealions for eating hundreds of thousands of endangered salmon every year (or millions maybe)

[Tilar]

The corn used in ethanol and for cattle feed is different than corn used for human consumption.

[Silver R/T]

The corn used in ethanol and for cattle feed is different than corn used for human consumption.

You're right, humans usually BBQ it or boil it lol

[Mike DC]

  
IMHO a human shooting a deer with a high-powered rifle is only "cruel" and "murderous" until you watch how nature keeps things balanced.    

[Silver R/T]

^^^ so "humans" are not much better than animals then?

[ZSmithersCharges]

^^^ so "humans" are not much better than animals then?

No but were more humane   By the way, humans ARE animals there is no distinction.

[Tilar]

The corn used in ethanol and for cattle feed is different than corn used for human consumption.

You're right, humans usually BBQ it or boil it lol

Corn used for human consumption is different than corn used for cattle feed, so ethanol really doesn't have anything to do with the growing  zuccini, apples, tomatoes, cucumbers argument.

If you want to bring ethanol into the discussion, you can say that the deer eating the corn will raise the cost of ethanol and beef since they are consuming the grain that was originally destined for those two.

Either way, controlling the deer population is a real problem that for some reason many can't seem to grasp.

This was caught on a game cam in coshocton county ohio right off county road 19. This is roughly 35 miles from my place.



This is what the deer bring to your area. You want them? You can have them.

[SeattleCharger]

   so killing the deer is taking food away from mountain lions now,  

           which will make them more likely to attack us humans    

[SeattleCharger]

 THIS IS CRAZY these sea lions are protected and allowed to dessimate the endangered salmon, but everyone accepts thinning out Bambi's family, I don't get it, look at the pic of trapping the dumbazz sealion, and they just swim hundreds of miles back to the exact same spot.   SHOOT THEM DEAD!

GRANTS PASS, Ore. -- Indian tribes that fish in the Columbia River called on the states of Oregon and Washington today to seek permission from federal officials to kill or drive out sea lions that have been eating salmon at Bonneville Dam.  (the judge ordered that no sea lions can be shot)

About 40 sea lions hanging around fish ladders over the dam have eaten an estimated 1,100 salmon so far this year, amounting to about 4 percent of the returns to date in a spring chinook run that is shaping up to be one of the smallest on record.


While some sea lions were being trapped and taken away for eating salmon below Bonneville Dam, others were getting their fill.

[John_Kunkel]

 
IMHO a human shooting a deer with a high-powered rifle is only "cruel" and "murderous" until you watch how nature keeps things balanced.

The one common thing in nature's way is that the victim and the prey aren't separated by hundreds of yards. The only time animal hunting can be called a "sport" is if  the hunter and the prey are face-to-face.   

[Tilar]

I never called it a sport. I'd call it survival of the fittest. If they can outrun an arrow or deer slug, they are the fittest. If not they are tomorrows jerky. 

[mopar73]

During the early 90's I was driving from college in mankato, mn back home to stevens point, wi just about every weekend and I went through a terrible string of bad luck hitting 5 deer in 3 years in cars and trucks, including my poor old 73, which wasn't feasable to repair at the time, all in wi.  Yes, I hunt not only for the meat but for the safety of all.

My god, that was drive from hell.  . i dont envy you at all.  My drive from college to home was 30 miles.   but i only did it 3 times a year...      

4 hours each way   It was for two reasons, first it was the girlfriend, now wife, and I was flying skydivers in stevens point on the weekend.

[RECHRGD]

I've got more than enough deer up here in Eastern Washington.  My biggest problem is wild turkeys.  They just showed up about six years ago.  They've multiplied so much that they had two hunting seasons for them last year.  It needs to be open season all year long on the filthy bastards.  They destroyed thousands of dollars worth of new landscaping and crap all over your yard.  It's like trying to constantly clean up after 50 puppies.  I'm just going to start filling the freezer with them until they get the idea to stay off of my property around the house.  Bob

[SeattleCharger]

I've got more than enough deer up here in Eastern Washington.  My biggest problem is wild turkeys.  They just showed up about six years ago.  They've multiplied so much that they had two hunting seasons for them last year.  It needs to be open season all year long on the filthy bastards.  They destroyed thousands of dollars worth of new landscaping and crap all over your yard.  It's like trying to constantly clean up after 50 puppies.  I'm just going to start filling the freezer with them until they get the idea to stay off of my property around the house.  Bob

[Tilar]

There's a guy a couple miles down the road from me that has a bunch of turkeys. I see them around his fields all the time.

[greenpigs]

Just what is a sea lions roll in nature? Sounds like dog needs a great white shark to visit the seals. Not sure if the water is warm enough for one their.

[SeattleCharger]

Just what is a sea lions roll in nature? Sounds like dog needs a great white shark to visit the seals. Not sure if the water is warm enough for one their.

   

[Mike DC]

   
Whites are coldwater sharks, actually.  They're one of the few warmblooded types of sharks so they can get away with it. 



   

[68charger383]

Saw this pic and thought it was fitting for this thread.......

[Brock Samson]

i found some pics too,..

 

[SeattleCharger]

nature is not so nice sometimes,  survival  

        (too bad we can't import polar bears here, and the great whites, to wipe out the dam sea lions)

                now that is a beatiful site

[SeattleCharger]

  mankind #1    ya baby                  (better than the alternative)

[DodgeByDave]

For the deer hunters,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqo7GdFlB3M

"For those young kids that think they are thrill seekers, come on up north and stare into the face of a grizzly, brown, kodiak or polar bear. That will truly cleanse the soul"
Fred Bear

[Brock Samson]

"The whole world is against us and we don't get it," she said. "Everybody hunts. We have six million seals around us in the sea and they are eating everything. We are going to have shortages of lobster, cod and mackerel even if we kill the numbers allowed."




help is here,..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/6235747/Canadians-show-stomach-to-fight-Europes-seal-ban-by-putting-mammal-on-the-menu.html

[SeattleCharger]

"The whole world is against us and we don't get it," she said. "Everybody hunts. We have six million seals around us in the sea and they are eating everything. We are going to have shortages of lobster, cod and mackerel even if we kill the numbers allowed."




help is here,..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/6235747/Canadians-show-stomach-to-fight-Europes-seal-ban-by-putting-mammal-on-the-menu.html

that is awesome, heh, thanks Brock.   I had no idea that was going on.   Funny in a way, that article.  a bit of it:

        "Benoit Lenglet, a French chef who has been promoting the meat as a delicacy and offers a range of seal appetisers at his Montreal restaurant, has received emailed threats from European animal rights activists wishing him a death as bloody as a clubbed seal."  

[Brock Samson]

saw this on the news last night...

http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2009/10/01/utility_to_remove_dams_blocking_salmon/

thought I'd share sorry for going sooooo damn far off topic but it is interesting in it's own right the salmon fishermen here in SF are having to charter themselves out as tour boats because of the now two year moritoriaum on salmon fishing here, all of our salmon are being imported from Alaska now.