Unwelcome guest, again...

[dads_69]

Unwelcome guest/punk. 2nd time now in a month I've had a back yard wanderer. My back yard is fenced, sign with *warning dog on premise do not enter*.
A month ago, 1:30 a.m. guy tried to peal my stereo out of my Explorer. I caught him, knocked him out w/a punch after 4th hit. Tonight, 1 hit knock down, he eventually got up looked at me for a second then ran fast other direction. Cops not fast enough as normal to get here to *try an locate him*.
I understand, guy is hidding out somewhere near by my guess.
Stereo in Expo' is worth a grand or so, he obviously has seen it and wants it bad enough, but has yet to learn his lesson from me.
I work late hours, so I'm up late, I know, I should have subdued him as well as before, but I simply reacted and wanted to fight.
I'm guessing his age 20 to 24. So yea, he knows better, but is just to stupid to understand how life works out sometimes.
If there is a next time, strike three, he'll be out.

Rant over, anyone  else having issues with wannabe thief's lately?

[Tilar]

None that I'm aware of. Our dogs pretty well let us know when someone comes around, wanted or unwanted. Next time you call the cops, tell them they can take their time because you just shot him and he will be there when they decide to come. You won't have to wait long. 

[greenpigs]

Next time he comes back I hope for your sake he doesnt bring a gun. Got some handcuffs? Next time you KO him cuff him to something HEAVY or hogtie him. I hate a thief and the turd needs some teeth knocked out, no cops when that happens.

[chargergirl]

None that I'm aware of. Our dogs pretty well let us know when someone comes around, wanted or unwanted. Next time you call the cops, tell them they can take their time because you just shot him and he will be there when they decide to come. You won't have to wait long. 

AMEN! Imminent Domain! The statement you say to make to the cops will get them there in seconds. I was being stalked and one of my clients...a state attorney said to say there was an armed drug deal going down at the end of the street...after I told his friend that I would say that for real...the guy stopped stalking me...he was a cop. This way you also have 20 police as your witness that the person is there...he was also armed. Here's my advice take it for what it is...hit him again and zippy tie him. That will keep him restrained until the police get there. Make sure your car is printed. This kid has to be stupid...why would you continue to go after the same car after you've been found out? Make sure you say he hit you first and press every charge available. Trespassing warrent etc. Take pics of him trying to break in to truck. My little digital camera takes pics in the dark like it's daylight.

[beware the sleeper]

if he was smart enough to find a new car, hed prolly be smart enough to get a job and buy his own radio.....just sayin...

[Blown70]

I like our law in ND.  People were upset, but you have full right to shoot anyone unwanted on your property, even in the back.......

Trust me, I am not all too friendly unless your invited on my property..... although all my vehicles are indoors

[nh_mopar_fan]

Wait a sec, same perp both times?

[bull]

If I were you, after I KO'd him the third time I'd zip tie the bastard's hands behind his back and then zip tie that to his feet. By the time the cops are done with their donuts and coffee he'll still be hog-tied and lying in your driveway. You think he'd learn after the first @$$ beating though.

[Blown70]

If I were you, after I KO'd him the third time I'd zip tie the bastard's hands behind his back and then zip tie that to his feet. By the time the cops are done with their donuts and coffee he'll still be hog-tied and lying in your driveway. You think he'd learn after the first @$$ beating though.

Ohhh oohhh and put a gag in his mouth and a santa hat on his head.... then lipstick, paste that picture around town..........whoa sorry got off topic there....

[Ranger Max]

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[Todd Wilson]

I have that crap happen all the time at my house. Always someone coming down the alley at night and messing with the parked cars. With the unemployment rate the way it is and with meth running wild in Kansas here it happens a lot at night around here all over. Just a few nights ago 3 guys came down my alley. Walking at a good pace. Talking and smoking weed. They werent interested in any vehicles as I watched them go by and then on down the alley.


Should have dug a hole for the thief and buried him in the backyard.


Todd

[41husk]

I like our law in ND.  People were upset, but you have full right to shoot anyone unwanted on your property, even in the back.......

Trust me, I am not all too friendly unless your invited on my property..... although all my vehicles are indoors

From what I remember, not only would they need to be invited, but you would need to come and get them for them to find it.

[Blown70]

I like our law in ND.  People were upset, but you have full right to shoot anyone unwanted on your property, even in the back.......

Trust me, I am not all too friendly unless your invited on my property..... although all my vehicles are indoors

From what I remember, not only would they need to be invited, but you would need to come and get them for them to find it.

HAHAHAH yea, you were more than welcome buddy....hahhaha

[73chgrSE]

Some punks used to cut through my yard from the woods in the back right up my side walk along side the house and across my front yard. It was wearing down a path of dead grass and a trail of trash, candy wrappers and cig butts etc.. That is until I followed them home one night. Now I know where they live. It hasn't happened since.

[DavidSL]

You Americans are crazy! Here in the UK we'd sit inside our houses for fear of being knifed or kicked to death, literally. Then the police would arrest the culprit(s) and put them away for about 5 months before they get released.

I don't particularly believe in violence, but at least over there you have a good idea about where your rights lie. Criminals here need only a shyster lawyer to quote 'the human rights act' and we pretty much go soft on them.

Of course, gun crime is minimal here... Hmm...

[DodgeByDave]

3 years ago I had a "crew" show up was going to clean me out. Slight miscalculation on their part.

I was home.

My little yappy dog barked and I heard the mailbox close. I figured "mail", get it in a second and wet back to my latest RC airplane (nothing fancy, .40 size stick that will fly in a straight line all day with no input). Dog keeps yapping, so I start checking. I see three guys hoisting stuff over my back fence

Seeing this, I grabbed my gun and leande out the back door and hollard, they beat feet. Situation was such that I couldn't risk a shot and they got to their car and got away.

I called the police, figuring I might see a cop in a couple of hours, so I went back to my home remodeling in the master bedroom. Next I hear in a booming voice, "X police Dept, Did You call the police?"

Nice. About 2 minutes. No sarcasm here. Seriously, 2 minutes I'll take every time. All I told the dispatcher was I have just had a robbery attempt, no one was injured, the thieves high tailed it and were most likely long gone.

As I was finishing up the interview with the officer, they drove right past us, fresh from hitting a house down the street. They tried to run, throwing stuff out of this small hatchback car as they went. They had stolen tools, wheels and tires, had some catalytic converters, a laptop.

Unknown to me at the time, they had cobbed up on my cordless drill. The officer brought it back about 2 hours later, "here, I think this is yours". Engraving ones tools. Kind of hard to argue with that.

Here is what I learned:

1) engrave that stuff, keep serial numbers. In my state, pawn shops are verbotten from dealing in items that have a serial # on the hot sheet. I didn't realize the drill was stolen, been years since that receipt was thrown away. With the engraving all the detective needed was picture of the item, no need to hold property for lack of proof of ownership or need of evidence.

2) I was prepared to defend myself, and mentally prepared to do the ultimate deed if necessary. In the end it was good that judgment overcame emotions. There would have been quite an ordeal otherwise, legal shoot or not. Lawyers ain't cheap, regardless if you are right or wrong. Also, regardless of right or wrong, all it takes is one round of "good intentions" to go astray and injure/kill an innocent bystander and no matter how many bad guys you maim or kill, all bets are off. I would just as soon not find out what it's like to live with that. They weren't armed, even though I was they were to busy making a good run. I never felt threatened.

3) The cops were having a good time, and fished hard for any excuse to "subdue" the suspects. The suspects were smart enough to keep their moths shut.

4) end cost for the suspects: Had to pay for their own legal, As the one was the father of the 2 sons and owns (owned?) property. Av. lawyer around here would charge around 1500 for the plea bargain. 5 years, 2 suspended, 6 months credit served. Lost the car (worth about 500).

5) cost to me? 0. Never had to leave my house. Well, I stood with some other folks to laugh at the spectacle.

6) Relax. Like taxes, most theft isn't personal. They saw what they thought was an easy mark. That is my fault and have since taken steps to prevent that.

7) Relax. The dispatcher can do that job faster when you get your address correct, speak clearly, don't curse. They realize you aren't cursing them, it's wasted words. And wasted time. Why give a dispatcher a reason to tell the officer "this jerkoff at so and so got robbed, the perps got away. mosey on over"

Relax. Let it play out. I figured I *might* get a visit from a police officer in a couple of hours. I was shocked one showed up right away. I was shocked the fools stayed in the area having just been caught. I was shocked they tried to outrun the cruiser.

9) Think. It only takes microseconds to react or over react. The consequences of that are forever. When the clowns took of down the driveway, i didn't even attempt any bravado, I just calmly walked over to the phone, called the cops and settled into a mode of whatever happens, happens.

10) The cops want to do the job. They want to catch these people. They want to beat up and shoot these kind of people. They don't have to get lawyers when they do (most of the time). Let them do their jobs!

11) Video. If I had to do over, I would have grabbed my camcorder and videoed a little, relaxed a little more, called the cops while they were still there. Like an Idiot, I leaned out the back door and hollered, giving them a chance to escape.

All in all, I learned some stuff, the perps were caught, I didn't have to get a lawyer and I got my drill back.

[Blown70]

Your a much calmer person than, I.  They would have heard the CYCLING of my shot gun to get there attention.......

[bigred68]

 K, sooo, #1 Call police, tell them you've just shot an intruder stealing from your home. (Calmly give police address to your home.)#2 Wait five minutes, (In your case 1 Minute? WOW two minutes is a fast response time, good for you! )#3 WITHOUT WARNING, Ratchet the 870 in ear shot, (give'em a small chance to get away).Be steady, sure about this shot, (its okay to hit the neighbors house, just think about what room he might be in when you take aim and...) FIRE!!!!! I guess you could TRY to aim to only maim the thieves...but. #4 Now, yell "Freeze, I have a weapon and will use it." When your being interviewed later, you will tell the police you did #4 FIRST, then did #3. (In all the confusion subsequent interviews by police to your neighbors will confirm this(its a prov-en fact.))  By this time the cops will prolly be at your home and will prolly thank you for not having to engage in a high speed pursuit after the SOB(which could possibly injure other innocent bystanders) as he will be bleeding to death in your yard. Your neighbors will thank you. The other little SOB's in your neighborhood will HEAR what happened, or hear of what happened and will think twice about trying to make you or any of your neighbors their victims in the future. 

[Landonsrt]

You Americans are crazy! Here in the UK we'd sit inside our houses for fear of being knifed or kicked to death, literally. Then the police would arrest the culprit(s) and put them away for about 5 months before they get released.

I don't particularly believe in violence, but at least over there you have a good idea about where your rights lie. Criminals here need only a shyster lawyer to quote 'the human rights act' and we pretty much go soft on them.

Of course, gun crime is minimal here... Hmm...

Would that be because no one is allowed to have wepons there right??? I'll keep my guns thank you very much.

Guns dont kill people. Dangerous minorities do.........

[ChgrSteve67]

In TX they just shoot people trying to steal thier property.

In CA you have to shoot them then drag them in the house, remember to tell the cops you were afraid for your life after the perp said they were going to kill you.

Personally I would find out who the guy is and post a sign in front of your house about it along with notifying the media.
Handing out flyers to your neighbors would be good too so if anyone else is robbed or vandalized they can tell the cops who it is.

[472 R/T SE]

Years ago when I drove OTR I had my Pete parked a couple blocks away in a grocery store parking lot.  That night my Mom brought out my alarm beeper to me on the couch since it was going crazy.  I threw on a shirt & grabbed my Mom's car keys & hauled ass to my truck.  The POS was up in my truck trying to get the CB out with the alarm blarring.  I hollered at him, he couldn't hear me initially cause of the alarm.

He jumped out of the cab & took off running with me chasing in my Mom's car, chased him across a freeway.  If he'd have fell I would have run him over.  A junky car was following me so I whipped around & got it's license # for the cops.

I went back to the Albertson's & told the cashier's that I was broken into & asked if they would call the cops'.  They pointed at the pay phone.

Cops showed & I asked what would have happened if I was in the sleeper.  Sheriff said it's my home & I had the right to shoot.  He said if the perp fell out of the truck to make sure I drug him back inside.

My only instance of someone thieving from me.

Luckily our 'hood is pretty safe.

I would think even though this guy is lacking upstairs, next time he'll have an equalizer.  I think I would do like the Skips' too & have some video cameras' somehwere. 

[Silver R/T]

too bad they don't let you shoot lowlifes like that. Next time tie him up in basement and starve him and punish him enough that when he comes out he will be a "changed man" lol

[Silver R/T]

If I were you, after I KO'd him the third time I'd zip tie the bastard's hands behind his back and then zip tie that to his feet. By the time the cops are done with their donuts and coffee he'll still be hog-tied and lying in your driveway. You think he'd learn after the first @$$ beating though.

maybe he didn't beat him hard enough??? I sure would like to come, I'll bring my baseball bat I've been hit by punks who stole some stuff from my car a few years ago. We need to get rid of scum

[Blown70]

too bad they don't let you shoot lowlifes like that. Next time tie him up in basement and starve him and punish him enough that when he comes out he will be a "changed man" lol

In North Daktoa we can   

[dads_69]

Home from work. It was no the same guy that tried to get whatever last time. First thief was caught.
He was caught by cops days later along with his rap sheet already 3 pages long.
My next door neighbor is a cop, only not home at time of incident, as well as the next 5 houses down from me.
I'll say this much, my hand is hurting still from the punch, but I'll be fine. I wonder how the guy feels today though? hahaha. Not that I give a rats ass, just curious.
Right now I'm studying Bo Staff weapons in class. But yet once again, I went into that old mode of *fight till he gives up* and did not control/subdue him, I let him get away. Personally, I'm really pissed at myself for that. If there is a next time, I will subdue the thief and cops or ambulance will haul thief away.
I really need sleep, but its hard knowing a person wants something of mine bad enough and yet take a beating for it, next time, they might not be so lucky.

Thanks for everyones response.

[Tilar]

In TX they just shoot people trying to steal thier property.

I had the Smith County Sherriff tell me once that if I caught someone trying to steal something to shoot them and then throw a rock through the window like they were trying to break in and there would be no questions asked. This was after a rash of break-ins around the neighborhood. I wasn't real worried about it because the Shepard/Wolf dog that I had really didn't like visitors and would let me know. He wouldn't let you out of your car unless he knew you.

[Silver R/T]

I'd be installing silent remote alarm

[Charger440RDN]

There was just a story yesterday where a college student chopped off a burglar's hand with a samurai sword and then killed him with the sword Now the police are trying too decide whether to file charges against the student   AND HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOUSE  

[PocketThunder]

There was just a story yesterday where a college student chopped off a burglar's hand with a samurai sword and then killed him with it Now the police are trying too decide whether to file charges against the student  AND HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOUSE 

He killed the burglar with his own hand?   

[beware the sleeper]

yeah, theres always a million regrets in those situations

a couple of months ago I was in the kitchen and I had just opened a soda, and i heard breathing in the back room (I have severely trained hearing, sound engineering ya know) and I just said "oh you picked the wrong  HOUSE" and started back there, but i just saw some shoes going out my back door by the time i got back there.  Apparently my sis had left the door unlocked when she dropped by like 2 days before, I never use it so I didn't know.

[Charger440RDN]

There was just a story yesterday where a college student chopped off a burglar's hand with a samurai sword and then killed him with it Now the police are trying too decide whether to file charges against the student   AND HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOUSE  

He killed the burglar with his own hand?  

Sorry I had to clarify that   he chopped off the guy's hand and then stabbed him with the sword  
 
here is the link to the story    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_re_us/us_samurai_sword_death 

[PocketThunder]

There was just a story yesterday where a college student chopped off a burglar's hand with a samurai sword and then killed him with it Now the police are trying too decide whether to file charges against the student   AND HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOUSE  

He killed the burglar with his own hand?  

Sorry I had to clarify that   he chopped off the guy's hand and then stabbed him with the sword  
 
here is the link to the story    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_re_us/us_samurai_sword_death 

Ya i figured so, or he was trying to not leave any finger prints..      

[Brock Samson]

 Interesting thread and story...
sorry for the trouble your having Dad,.. I can't say what i would do in your situation it's good your able to protect yourself and your stuff.

RE: the story I think It's amazing he was convicted of "Unauthorised Removal of Property". spent 10 Mos. in jail and three days later (if not sooner) was out again stealing electronics. Some sad facts in that case.
When someone is that unintelligent and desperate it can only end badly eventually.
Just a matter of time. I hope the kid gets off and gets a parade for Valor. 

[bull]

You Americans are crazy! Here in the UK we'd sit inside our houses for fear of being knifed or kicked to death, literally. Then the police would arrest the culprit(s) and put them away for about 5 months before they get released.

I don't particularly believe in violence, but at least over there you have a good idea about where your rights lie. Criminals here need only a shyster lawyer to quote 'the human rights act' and we pretty much go soft on them.

Of course, gun crime is minimal here... Hmm...

It's a unique situation here regardless of your view on guns. Long before anyone wanted to eradicate guns from the US there were already way too many to ever locate and eliminate. Now, if the govt. decided to confiscate everyone's guns the only ones they'd get are the ones from those who obey laws. Laws only effect law-abiding citizens so either way the good guy loses if guns are taken away.

[Silver R/T]

There was just a story yesterday where a college student chopped off a burglar's hand with a samurai sword and then killed him with it Now the police are trying too decide whether to file charges against the student  AND HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOUSE 

He killed the burglar with his own hand?   

Sorry I had to clarify that  he chopped off the guy's hand and then stabbed him with the sword 
 
here is the link to the story    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_re_us/us_samurai_sword_death 

Maybe he should've poste a warning sign
"Samurai in traning"

[c00nhunterjoe]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

[DavidSL]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

Yes, well, your screen name suggests that depth of personality.

[elacruze]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

Yes, well, your screen name suggests that depth of personality.

Just for your education, I'll point out that your response is of a type known as 'Ad Hominem'. That means you're attacking the poster, not the content of his post. I for one find that offensive.

Apology?

[DavidSL]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

Yes, well, your screen name suggests that depth of personality.

Just for your education, I'll point out that your response is of a type known as 'Ad Hominem'. That means you're attacking the poster, not the content of his post. I for one find that offensive.

Apology?

People have noticed his screen name, right? I mean, I'm not just reading it wrong, am I?

[chargergirl]

Times are changing. There was an incident in Pensacola where the neighbor had been asked to watch a mans house. He saw two young men breaking in and called 911 while he grabbed his shotgun. With the 911 operator requesting he not go outside. He did and warned the kids that he would shoot if they continued. They turned and went after the old guy holding the shotgun. Calling him all kinds of names and threatening him. He shot one dead and the other ran. Charges were not pressed against the old guy. Everyone is sick of living in fear of the bad guy. Another incident where bad guy breaks into a mans house and is shot dead...no charges pressed and one less bad guy. I had a bunch of wanna be bad guys threatening me when I lived alone on the 2.5 acres..."don't you know you should leave the light on at night"? "I know you live alone". Mr. Macho changed his tune when my Dobies put him on the fence...yep there he was standing on the fence when I got home..."get your dogs off me". I said my dogs aren't on you and called the neighbor...cop. He wrote up the incident/arrest report while the youngster stood on the fence post...it was great. Later same youngster and his friends walked past my home and were pointing and making rude comments and my friends dog ran to the fence and chewed the fence to get to them. She came back without incident...I apologized for her behavior..."she's used to being in the house". They never came back and I never let them know she wasn't in MY house....lmao! Never had a gun in the house however if not for the dogs I am sure I would have needed one.

[greenpigs]

It isn't the firearm but the person using it that is dangerous.

[elacruze]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

Yes, well, your screen name suggests that depth of personality.

Just for your education, I'll point out that your response is of a type known as 'Ad Hominem'. That means you're attacking the poster, not the content of his post. I for one find that offensive.

Apology?

People have noticed his screen name, right? I mean, I'm not just reading it wrong, am I?

Point being?

[Troy]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

Yes, well, your screen name suggests that depth of personality.

Just for your education, I'll point out that your response is of a type known as 'Ad Hominem'. That means you're attacking the poster, not the content of his post. I for one find that offensive.

Apology?

People have noticed his screen name, right? I mean, I'm not just reading it wrong, am I?

It's not the screen name reference that's the problem. Since when do we judge others by their internet handle? On a site like this, you never know who might have the information you need to solve a problem later.

Troy

[Ghoste]

Until the post came up suggesting anything different I just thought the username meant he enjoyed racoon hunting.  I guess it's all in where one is predisposed to think? 

[73chgrSE]

Until the post came up suggesting anything different I just thought the username meant he enjoyed racoon hunting.

Probly 99% of the rest of us thought that too.

[beware the sleeper]

the only way yo are getting my guns is to pry them from my dead hands

Yes, well, your screen name suggests that depth of personality.

Just for your education, I'll point out that your response is of a type known as 'Ad Hominem'. That means you're attacking the poster, not the content of his post. I for one find that offensive.

Apology?

People have noticed his screen name, right? I mean, I'm not just reading it wrong, am I?

It's not the screen name reference that's the problem. Since when do we judge others by their internet handle? On a site like this, you never know who might have the information you need to solve a problem later.

Troy

I didnt bother to read your response cause i inherintly hate anyone named troy.......

[DavidSL]

I went away and came back, because I may have made a mistake. If the username means Racoon hunting, I sincerely apologise for my stupid comment. It was ridiculous and unwarranted.

But it has nothing to do with thinking, it's more being on different sides of the pond. Over here, 'coon' is a slang racist term. I'm predisposed to think that when I hear it, because that's what it is. Racoon is an animal - I guess we wouldn't shorten it to 'coon' so it's not the first thing I jump to. In the US, I guess it's different.

So, if that's what the username was implying, I apologise humbly, and ask you to forgive me my comment. It was stupid and childish. Sorry for the offence caused to everyone.

EDIT: I'd also like to add that I'm in a particular bad mood today searching for a new job, so a lot of the hostility may have come from needing to vent somewhere. Yes, I hate people who go on message boards to look for fights as much as you do, and that wasn't my intention. I'm feeling rather stupid now!

[Ghoste]

Regional meanings come into in a big way, no doubt about that.  I'd be lying to say I've never heard the word used in a racist manner but it's so long ago that I've heard it personally that it never occurred to me.  I don't often hear the short form applied to the animal either anymore but at one time I was also a "coonhunter" and we raised more than a few coonhounds for the purpose when I was younger.  So you see, that would also make it the more natural use of the term for me.
Kind of strange how we can spend so much time on the definition of a slang word wouldn't you agree?   
Who has more fun than people huh?

[beware the sleeper]

no doubt man, easy mistake, just think davey crocket with his coon skin hat, yeah callin racoons coons isnt even an american thing, its really only a southern thing here in america

[Ghoste]

I'm from southern Canada so that must be it for me?

[DavidSL]

Well I just hope coonhunterjoe sees the funny side - I'm expecting a strongly worded PM!

I went away thinking about this - I don't like throwing insults about on message boards - and I was thinking 'how can no-one else pick up on that??' Then I got to thinking about US and Canadian meanings and realised you guys hunt Racoons... Yeah, I felt a bit stupid after that one...

[73chgrSE]

We are all brothers in the eyes of the lord............ I hope that doesn't offend anyone.

[beware the sleeper]

man i once ripped this guys head off, i mean ANGRY post

went back like a month later, had read it wrong, he basicly said hello

happens to the best of us (and you know, us too)

[Rolling_Thunder]

If I were you, after I KO'd him the third time I'd zip tie the bastard's hands behind his back and then zip tie that to his feet. By the time the cops are done with their donuts and coffee he'll still be hog-tied and lying in your driveway. You think he'd learn after the first @$$ beating though.

Not Zip Ties...      Duct Tape...   Duct tape stretches and does not break...    believe it or not - if you're a strong enough dude you can easily break zip tie cuffs...        I would confront the guy while being armed...      and only so many things could happen....

1. He turns and runs...     result...     one in the leg....
2. He comes at you in the treatening manner...     result...     one in the chest
3. He kneels and "gives up"...     result...        On in the leg

At this point you call the cops and say you have shot an intruder on your property and he is in need of immediate attention...    when the cops show up and ask why you shot him and question wether it was necessary...       your reply will be...      "This is the third time this man has trespassed and tried to steal my things...    I have reported it already twice to no avail...    i was within my rights to shoot him and I did. I highly doubt he'll be coming back a fourth time "

[Troy]

Well I just hope coonhunterjoe sees the funny side - I'm expecting a strongly worded PM!

I went away thinking about this - I don't like throwing insults about on message boards - and I was thinking 'how can no-one else pick up on that??' Then I got to thinking about US and Canadian meanings and realised you guys hunt Racoons... Yeah, I felt a bit stupid after that one...

It's funny because I'd never heard the racist meaning of the word until I watched the movie "Remember the Titans". I guess all my relatives are hillbillies. I thought you meant raccoon hunters would never give up their guns...  

Back to the subject at hand, I've had numerous cars, apartments, garages, and homes burglarized. Only twice have I caught someone in the act and both times the polices were involved without me having to do anything rational or irrational. At least you don't feel as helpless if you can put a face to the person/people responsible.

Troy

[LoneStar Mopar]

Here in Texas not only can you shoot and kill a burglar on your property but you don't even have to be in fear of your life; and the burglar doesn't even have to be inside your house. As long as they are on your property and damaging/stealing your property you have the right to defend. It is called the Castle law or something like that. You even have the right to shoot burglars on your neighbors property as long as they tell you you can do so before hand.

It seems like every month or two the news reports another homeowner killing a burglar. This definately gives criminals something to think about before they break into a house. I have a couple of guns only for the reason of self defense if someone breaks into my house or property. 

[Steve P.]

They passed the same "TEXAS LAW" here in Florida. I don't know just how closely it resembles the Texas law, but it has been called the "TEXAS LAW" here since it's passing. The funny thing is the only one of my neighbors that EVER says anything about it IS from TAXES.  He is surely proud to let everyone know his house is full of guns and he just can't wait to use one... Of course he's the only one in the neighborhood with big chrome bull balls hanging from under his truck and he's got the DIXIE horns too... Most of us just wish he'd move back to Texas, but he tells us they didn't care for him much there.. Go figure...  Now my buddy Greg, who was born and raised in Tyler, Texas tells me that most of the guys he sees like my neighbor in Texas are the ones that commonly got their butts kicked all through school just "because"... 

[Rallyecharger]

Home protection = 2 Rottweiler's and a backup plan(12 gauge shotgun)........

[chargergirl]

Home protection = 2 Rottweiler's and a backup plan(12 gauge shotgun)........

One Boxer, Two Malamuts, all under a year old is the problem. There was a survey of sorts, done with criminals as to what was the scariest sound to them...it was the sound of a shotgun being loaded/primed. See with those you don't have to be a great shot...you will get them. Thought my boxer was the just one of those dogs that love everyone and she is...until she saw a man she didn't like. I was stunned and put her on leash in the truck. I get out, she's coming with, sits on my foot as the man approaches. He said something and pointed in the other direction, she didn't like that. She came up on her back legs and stiff armed him...he went back fast about three feet. Then she sat down. She is very protective and seems to think the harder you play with her the harder she has to play back. They are tough, tough dogs. I think she would grab a bad guy and as he hit her would just think he was playing and come back harder...and man is she FAST! Bad guy doesn't stand a chance!

[DavidSL]

It's funny because I'd never heard the racist meaning of the word until I watched the movie "Remember the Titans". I guess all my relatives are hillbillies. I thought you meant raccoon hunters would never give up their guns...  

If I'd realised initially the name was in reference to raccoon hunting I would never have made that comment. It was all in context to what I thought the name meant. Of course I wouldn't expect anyone to want to give up their guns, it's your right in the US and who is gonna take away the criminal's guns if that ever came about?

However, thinking of it in the way I did - I had a more sinister image which was a mistake, hence the sincere apology. I'm not in the habit of throwing insults about!

Back on topic - dogs are probably the best protection. I'd imagine a lot of criminals don't expect people to run out of their houses and start shooting at them, because most people wouldn't. Dogs don't think that way, there are no repercussions to biting someone. Of course, having a dog that vicious around the house sure can be dodgy.

[RusTy/SE]

A similar incident recently took place in Elmore county just north of Montgomery. Here's a link to the story; it contains the video as aired on the local news yesterday. Not to make light of this, but i couldn't help hearing Forrest Gump in my mind when reading that the would be thief was shot in the "buttocks".

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=11150983

[ZSmithersCharges]

A similar incident recently took place in Elmore county just north of Montgomery. Here's a link to the story; it contains the video as aired on the local news yesterday. Not to make light of this, but i couldn't help hearing Forrest Gump in my mind when reading that the would be thief was shot in the "buttocks".

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=11150983

Good home owner.

[Supercharged Riot]

nice to hear you took the showed the thief what "law & order" felt like....your right & left fist.



I wouldnt be able to control myself if I were ever in your position. 


Glad you caught him.

[chargergirl]

Forrest ran, run Forrest run, and got his shotgun! Shooting bad guy in the Buttocks...this is KISMET!

[dads_69]

Neighbor 4 houses down from me, about 9:30 tonight had an intruder in his back yard. Motion light came on and person/punkass bailed, Matt almost caught the guy, but he got away.
Matt, my neighbor was scared of what to do, First off I told him, if you catch him, subdue the punk, then call the cops.
Cops have been thick around here lately. Really odd, neighborhood I/we live is not normally like this, cops say they are praying on the up scale neighbor hoods lately, less crime than what the better known hoods have crime 24/7.
Cops are in unmarked cars also, hopefully they'll catch the wannabe thief's before the neighborhood watch does, cause people are not gonna be nice about the capture from what I've heard.

[sixty8charger]

I am afraid of what i would do to the bastard.  once i get an adrenaline rush,  i turn clinically insane...    maybe i will regret the decisions later, but in that moment there is no thought.
I acknowledge my insanity as just.
The court systems do not work.

Becides, if the joker is just going to steal my shit for his benifit, he is worthless to society, and therefore, i will have done no wrong.

my beliefs anyways.

[Brock Samson]

 What about a crime watch coordinated with a motion sensor?..  good luck with all that.

[472 R/T SE]

I am afraid of what i would do to the bastard.  once i get an adrenaline rush,  i turn clinically insane...    maybe i will regret the decisions later, but in that moment there is no thought.
I acknowledge my insanity as just.
The court systems do not work.

Unfortunately unless you have some sort of work out regime, adrenaline only lasts so long & there you are out of energy.

Ever been in a fight & after all the adrenaline's wore off you're thinking, "Damn, I need to knock this guy out" cause you're spent?  I know I have.