It's finally home!!!

richRTSE · July 27, 2009, 09:35:35 AM

Well, it's been an anxious couple weeks for me, but my C500 is finally home!!! The one from the Columbus Craigslist ad. (Thanks Paul for not spilling the beans) Here's a little time frame of my adventure...Saturday morning 2 weeks ago, a friend and I went to look at it. The impression I had was a number's matching 500 with new rust-free quarters. Well, when we got there and started loking at the car, it seemed that both quarters are probably going to have to come off. The trunk floor, taillight panel, rear valance, and maybe outer wheel houses will have to be redone also. But, I still thought "hey, it's a number's matching car!" Then I crawled under to check the VINs and found the engine is original, but the trans is out of a '70. I was quite disappointed. I told Ed (the seller) about the trans, and he was quite suprised to learn this. I believe he really thought it was the original trans, as he never had it out of the car. So after looking at the car and talking with Ed (who is a super nice guy, I might ad) for about an hour, I made an offer that was too low for him to take. I understood that I was the first guy to see the car, and didn't expect him to give it away. Ed also told me several people had called, even one from Finland (Tyly?). So, I left for home figuring someone else was going to get this car, and I'd be happy with my 500/Daytona clone I planned to build. And Sunday we left for vacation.

Then all day Sunday and Monday morning it was eating at me.

This was probably the closest I'd ever be to getting a real 500 at an "affordable" price. So I talked with the wife (thanks Valerie!), called about getting a loan, then called Ed back to raise my offer. Ed told me someone from Indiana had looked at the car and was coming back later that day with a trailer and cash.

I told him if that deal fell through, I'd really like the car, and made my new offer. He said he'd call me if anything changed. Fortunately, I did get that call, and the rest is history as they say.

The car has been an Ohio car it's whole life, bought new in Columbus. Ed bought it in '83 (not running)from the previous owner, who had won it in a drag race. It had already been painted black, so I haven't been able to determine the original stripe color yet. The decklid is not original, but it looks like they reused the original close out panel. The engine has been rebuild by Ed, but in the 26 years he owned it, he only put ONE mile on it! I have boxes to go through still, but heres what I got so far: The fender tag and build sheet,

the rear window is there as well as the trim (just missing one lower corner piece), both A-pillars look great, the headlight brackets and fillers, dash is complete with Tic-tock-tach, and the taillights are original too (left one has "NO" in yellow). It's really a pretty plain car. T5 Copper, column shift, no buddy seat, no headrests, manual brakes. The wheel code on the build sheet is W25, I think thats dogdish wheel covers? I sold my numbers matching T5 '69 Dart GTS (340/4-speed) last year to buy parts for my clone, so it's nice to have another copper car. Unfortunately, I broke the bank to get this car, so I might not be able to start on until next year after tax time. I'll probably try to sell some parts (if anyone wants one of Dane's Daytona wings, I'll probably be selling mine for what I paid-$1600, and can deliver to the Mopar Nats). But at least I have my Aero car, and for now at least, I kept my '69 R/T as well.

richRTSE · July 27, 2009, 09:36:36 AM

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69 OUR/TEA · July 27, 2009, 09:44:28 AM

Much congrats!!!!!!

Love the T5!!!!! Half the fun of this hobby is the "hunt and score" of these machines.Followed by the restos !!!!! Once again,great find and congrats !!!!!!

moparstuart · July 27, 2009, 09:45:23 AM

awesome man great deal

hemi68charger · July 27, 2009, 09:45:33 AM

Congrad's Rich !!!!! It's a nice feeling knowing you own an original XX29 car............ The car should look awesome.... More than likely with the black interior, the car came with a black stripe,, but white stands out so much better on T5..

Troy

skip68 · July 27, 2009, 09:46:13 AM

NICE !

richRTSE · July 27, 2009, 09:53:46 AM

Thanks, guys. I had to promise Ed I'd come down and take him for a ride when it's done. I think he was happy to keep the car in Ohio.

More than likely I will go with the white stripe, I think it looks great on this car...

PocketThunder · July 27, 2009, 10:02:25 AM

Ya buddy!

See if you can dig around the marker light area in the quarter panels and find some left over stripe material to determine the color, thats how i found out my stripe color. Or would it say on the build sheet?

Paul

Ghoste · July 27, 2009, 10:04:22 AM

Nice to see that car went to a member here so we can follow it's progress.

hemi68charger · July 27, 2009, 10:05:02 AM

Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2009, 10:02:25 AM
Ya buddy!

See if you can dig around the marker light area in the quarter panels and find some left over stripe material to determine the color, thats how i found out my stripe color. Or would it say on the build sheet?

Paul

Nope.........

richRTSE · July 27, 2009, 10:08:00 AM

Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2009, 10:02:25 AM
Ya buddy!

See if you can dig around the marker light area in the quarter panels and find some left over stripe material to determine the color, thats how i found out my stripe color. Or would it say on the build sheet?

Paul

Unfortunately, both quarters have been replaced, and the decklid. The rear side markers are original, but it looks like copper under the black paint. I don't think the side markers got matched to the stripes, at least not on early (Sept 29th) cars.

richRTSE · July 27, 2009, 12:23:17 PM

Can anyone confirm that W25 is steel wheels and redline dogdish covers? And what is a 3443 951 radiator from?

Thanks, Rich

BigBlockSam · July 27, 2009, 12:32:43 PM

congrats

i dig T5 Copper cars . my roadrunner is T5 . i think you made a great score.

nascarxx29 · July 27, 2009, 01:02:48 PM

Will see if I can find the W25 code and llok up that part #

W25 HD stamped wheels 69-71

Ghoste · July 27, 2009, 01:04:10 PM

W25 is stamped steel wheels and the 951 rad is for a 71 383 with a/c in a full size car? I must not be reading it right.

hemi68charger · July 27, 2009, 01:22:51 PM

Quote from: Ghoste on July 27, 2009, 01:04:10 PM
W25 is stamped steel wheels and the 951 rad is for a 71 383 with a/c in a full size car? I must not be reading it right.

NO, I think you are reading it correctly........ That car, if it's a 440 auto with 3.23's should have a 22" radiator, not a 26....... By the looks of it, it looks as if someone's replaced the radiator. Simple verification would be the fender tag. If there's no "26" stamped on it, it's a 22" car. Now, there's a '69 22" radiator on moparts now......

Troy

Check your PM...

unrulyprocuda · July 27, 2009, 01:29:24 PM

Hows a guy going to sell a wing and parts that hides his email adress and dont post one on his listing of parts for sale Im interested in the wing and other parts email me at unrulyprocuda@aol.com or call Bob McCarty at 812-774-7800 i will be going to the nats

hemi68charger · July 27, 2009, 01:33:54 PM

Quote from: unrulyprocuda on July 27, 2009, 01:29:24 PM
Hows a guy going to sell a wing and parts that hides his email adress and dont post one on his listing of parts for sale Im interested in the wing and other parts email me at unrulyprocuda@aol.com or call Bob McCarty at 812-774-7800 i will be going to the nats

You can send him a PM and it will automatically go to the registered email address........

tan top · July 27, 2009, 01:54:55 PM

cool

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69bronzeT5 · July 27, 2009, 02:42:57 PM

Very cool! Congrats on the great score

EMF · July 27, 2009, 04:59:19 PM

Wondering how much was the purchase price of the c500. Trying to get idea of what to put mine up for sale along with all the other stuff I have. Seems I will never get to restoring any of them. I need to get pictures taken and a complete list to post all info.

Blown70 · July 27, 2009, 05:04:03 PM

Quote from: EMF on July 27, 2009, 04:59:19 PM
Wondering how much was the purchase price of the c500. Trying to get idea of what to put mine up for sale along with all the other stuff I have. Seems I will never get to restoring any of them. I need to get pictures taken and a complete list to post all info.

I would like to place a bet with that statement now how many PM's, you will get looking to buy......

richRTSE · July 27, 2009, 05:21:17 PM

Quote from: EMF on July 27, 2009, 04:59:19 PM
Wondering how much was the purchase price of the c500. Trying to get idea of what to put mine up for sale along with all the other stuff I have.

Well, I'll just say it was a little less than his original asking price of $16,500 and definately more than my first low ball offer

of $12,500. I spent more than I really could afford right now, but I don't feel I over paid for it. I bet if he would have towed it to the Mopar Nationals, he probably could have got $20,000 for it. Now it will just be awhile before I can start on it.

UFO · July 27, 2009, 05:51:06 PM

Congrats on the purchase.

Regarding wheel covers or dog dish caps.
There should be two digits under the wheel cover space.Involves the part number not a sales code.
You will need a parts book(or ask here) to crack it.

69_500 · July 27, 2009, 08:15:25 PM

Quote from: richRTSE on July 27, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2009, 10:02:25 AM
Ya buddy!

See if you can dig around the marker light area in the quarter panels and find some left over stripe material to determine the color, thats how i found out my stripe color. Or would it say on the build sheet?

Paul

Unfortunately, both quarters have been replaced, and the decklid. The rear side markers are original, but it looks like copper under the black paint. I don't think the side markers got matched to the stripes, at least not on early (Sept 29th) cars.

In my looking at cars it seems to be hit or miss on the whole bezels as far as 500's are concerned. Of the dozen unrestored 500's I've looked at 9 had bezels painted body color, while 3 had them stripe color like they should have been. As far as restored cars go its really up to the owner. No one can prove that it had the bezels one way or the other once you restore it, unless they knew the car before hand. My car 224393 has them body color not stripe color. And once I actually get around to it and redo the car they will remain body color.

hotrod98 · July 27, 2009, 08:22:21 PM

Quote from: EMF on July 27, 2009, 04:59:19 PM
Wondering how much was the purchase price of the c500. Trying to get idea of what to put mine up for sale along with all the other stuff I have. Seems I will never get to restoring any of them. I need to get pictures taken and a complete list to post all info.

Make me a deal and I'll buy it, slap a nose and wing on it and call it done.
Wadda you wanna bet that he refuses to sell me the car.

richRTSE · July 28, 2009, 07:50:48 AM

UFO, the wheel cover code is 89. And Troy, the radiator code is 53.

Started digging through some of the boxes of parts last night. I found all of the grill brackets that I figured were missing.

Also found the original rubber edging for the headlight bezel fillers. They are pretty hard though, anything I can soak them in to soften them back up? Also found the hood release, what might be the original carb, and the black button door handles. Boxes of bolts, the bumper brackets, new exhaust tips still in the boxes, etc, and a few things I haven't figured out what they are yet.

So now I have 2 cars in pieces...guess I better start to get organized.

Dave Kanofsky · July 28, 2009, 08:14:28 AM

Congrat's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hemi68charger · July 28, 2009, 08:17:50 AM

Quote from: richRTSE on July 28, 2009, 07:50:48 AM
... And Troy, the radiator code is 53.

What is the radiator that's in your car now? You might be able to sell it to get the 22"....... Maybe not if it's a c-body rad...........

tyly · July 28, 2009, 11:23:09 AM

congrats

I try buy this car too. I emailing few days with Ed.
My friend in Timmonsville SC call to Ed monday morning, and he say we take the car and he comes in evening and pay it, but Ed call back soon, and say, car is sold, I´m really sorry

I am not sure, but in Northern is only one c500, in Sweden, standing long time in garage and bad condition.

moparchris · July 28, 2009, 01:52:27 PM

Congats

on your C500, I'm sure you will enjoy putting it back togather. The 53 code on your broadcast sheet corrosponds to the last 2 digits of the radiator part number. Look in a part number book to cross reference so you can score the correct number radiator. I believe the W25 code for your wheels is for the 14" road wheel (the 5 spoke magnum 500 style).

UFO · July 28, 2009, 05:51:20 PM

89= dog dish hub caps.
053= rad 2949053.

472 R/T SE · July 28, 2009, 07:12:23 PM

Quote from: UFO on July 28, 2009, 05:51:20 PM
89= dog dish hub caps.
053= rad 2949053.

And that's a 22"er.

The W25 H.D. wheels, are those the same wheels that are put on the A12 cars, the "H" stamped wheels?

Congrats on the score.

What are your plans, factory correct resto or personalize like your black car?

paironines · July 28, 2009, 07:34:02 PM

I think you got a really good buy. I would have bought it too. Now if I could just find a similarly priced one....

UFO · July 28, 2009, 07:44:56 PM

Quote

The W25 H.D. wheels, are those the same wheels that are put on the A12 cars, the "H" stamped wheels?

I doubt it.T82 is F70x14 white line tires.I think the "H" wheels were 15" only.
Note line 4 the rims were painted T5.

richRTSE · July 29, 2009, 08:18:39 AM

Quote from: UFO on July 28, 2009, 05:51:20 PM
89= dog dish hub caps.
053= rad 2949053.

Thanks UFO.

Troy, there's a 3443 951 radiator in there now. I think Ghoste said it was a '71 C-body 383 with A/C. I may just use it in my other car that needs a 26".

472 R/T SE, right now I'm thinking pretty stock on the resto(except for maybe the white line tires

). I have a '70 Charger I was planning on making into either a C500 or Daytona clone, which I already have most of the parts for. If I can find it in my budget, I'd like to restore this car and build a C500 clone (440/4-speed/Dana maybe). I can use the clone to practice my resto skills on. LOL.

And if I have to sell something, I think now that I have a real 500, I could probably cope with selling my R/T.

sunroofgtx · August 18, 2009, 03:30:11 AM

Rich, I am so pumped up for you. Thanks for letting me in on the secret. I literally got goosebumps when I saw the 500 in his garage. It's awesome. Love the T5 w/ white stripe as well.

Highbanked Hauler · October 11, 2010, 10:00:49 AM

Quote from: richRTSE on July 28, 2009, 07:50:48 AM
UFO, the wheel cover code is 89. And Troy, the radiator code is 53.

Started digging through some of the boxes of parts last night. I found all of the grill brackets that I figured were missing. Also found the original rubber edging for the headlight bezel fillers. They are pretty hard though, anything I can soak them in to soften them back up? Also found the hood release, what might be the original carb, and the black button door handles. Boxes of bolts, the bumper brackets, new exhaust tips still in the boxes, etc, and a few things I haven't figured out what they are yet.

So now I have 2 cars in pieces...guess I better start to get organized.

WOW that build sheet is near spotless, good deal

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