Ok, I'm stumped. anybody have any idea what the heck this is????

[Tilar]

Back when carbureted cars were all we had, Does anyone ever remember their car running better when there was rain?

[Brock Samson]

yes, cooler denser air.

[dkn1997]

That one in the picture is really very simple but it will definitely get some water in the system. The one I have for my Suburban will get nothing but hydrogen gas vapors into the system. I don't have it wired in just yet but I'm pretty well banking on somewhere between 18 to 20 mpg out of that 454.

I know a guy not far from me that has an international patent on his system and he thinks with the system I've put together for the Suburban will push me closer to 30 than 20.  I just dont see that much but it would sure be nice.    Hell I'd be happy with 20.  His 3/4 ton 4x4 pickup is running the Duramax diesel and he's claiming close to 50mpg with it but the government will not let him market that paqticular system to the public.

No offense, but this is the exact thing you hear from everyone who's building these hydrogen or whatever type of injection systems.   It's always "mine's not running yet but it will get __mpg" or "I installed it and just need to tune it"    better yet is the old "I know a guy who has one that gets ___mpg"

I never hear someone say they are running one and it works. 

[mauve66]

my problem with hydrogen is all this water vapor, it will be more than the atmosphere can balance and will create a rainforest  everywhere on earth and not to mention the huge rust issues that will start with all that extra moisture in the air.  I happen to like low humidity, and my fat rolls do also

Think for a minute what water is composed of. 2 parts hydrogen, one part oxygen. Take the hydrogen out and what is left? It's not more water. I know of one person that is trying to come up with a seperator that will seperate the hydrogen from the oxygen and then pump the oxygen through the A/C system into the cab. I'll have to see a lot of successful research on that one before I'd trust that one.

Where so many people screw up with this is they try to push too many amps through the generator trying to get more hydrogen out. It doesn't work that way. You try pushing too many amps through the system it gets hot and you end up boiling the water. This is when people start having problems with water entering the engine.

so why does everyone say that the only by-product is water vapor it there is no water left??

[Tilar]

No offense, but this is the exact thing you hear from everyone who's building these hydrogen or whatever type of injection systems.   It's always "mine's not running yet but it will get __mpg" or "I installed it and just need to tune it"    better yet is the old "I know a guy who has one that gets ___mpg"

I never hear someone say they are running one and it works.  

No offense taken, believe me. I don't know anyone else that is working with this other than the guy I know that has that patent, and the others are all on message boards. And I guess the reason I don't have mine installed yet is because I'm a procrastinator. Look the word up in the dictionary and it has a picture of me.    I have so many other projects going that its easier to leave it on the bench. Plus like I mentioned earlier, My truck has a ton of miles on it. I've been replacing sensors and anything else I think might get me the most mileage possible without the hydrogen. I still want to replace my oxygen sensors because I think one of them is not working. That way when I do get it installed I'll be able to actually have a marker to start with. Right now I get between 13 and 14 mpg with it on the highway not pulling a trailer.  If the hydrogen gets me more then great. If not then it's rougly $700 down the shitter.

I know that the failure rate is a lot higher than the success rate, but I also know that many of the people that do this go into it half assed without knowing what all has to be done. Most think they can stick a generator on, fill it with water and turn the key. It doesn't work like that. It's not a quick job and no two cars seem to react the same way. But I know the system I have seems to be putting out a lot of hydrogen compared to others I've talked to and it doesn't get hot so no steam.