SAVE DUKESFEST!

[dukeboy320]

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION!

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/dukesfest-2010/signatures.html

[bull]

Screw Dukesfest. They've ruined enough '69 Chargers. I'll sign the petition when they stop jumping cars.

[moparnole]

 

Amen brother!!!

[runningman]

signed it 

[69bronzeT5]

Screw Dukesfest. They've ruined enough '69 Chargers. I'll sign the petition when they stop jumping cars.

Totally agree

[vancamp]

they have killed enough chargers watch reruns or something but killing chargers

[Ghoste]

I'd rather see Team Petty do the big switch to Toyota next year than watch the terrible slaughter of innocent Chargers.

[Mopar440+6]

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION!

Umm, no...

[Landonsrt]

you know, I was going to go to dukefest last year since it was only a few miles from my house. Couldnt go since I had a new baby and the heat wouldnt have been good for him. My wife was working that weekend.  But i totally agree, its nice seeing all the chargers together, but killing a perfectly good one every year makes me sick!

[Neal_J]

It seems to me that if people aren't attending, no petition will save it. 

People are voting with their feet...

[mopar0166]

ill sign it,  dukefest isnt just about crashing chargers. 

[tan top]

Screw Dukesfest. They've ruined enough '69 Chargers. I'll sign the petition when they stop jumping cars.

       damn right !!



just a thought ..no offence to the 4 door charger dudes , but its no biggie as they are still made !!!
will sign it though it they start jumping the 4 door ones !!  that will do 2 things ...use up the stock pile of unsold new modles & used !! &  give Chrysler  more orders to make them !!!

[Mike DC]

 
The event is still drawing thousands of people.  The problem is that the expecations were built up too high last year. 

[Ghoste]

How so Mike?  (a serious question btw)

[TruckDriver]

I am so sick of the whole everything about The Dukes Of Hazzard, it makes my skin crawl now. (even though I loved the show growing up) Destroying classic cars is one of the reasons I'd never sign anything for them. It is one of the reasons I learned to hate the show. 

If they wanna jump a Charger, why dont they find as many of the '80's Omni Chargers as they can, and paint them up, and jump them. Just be sure the name "Shelby" isnt on them 

[69*F5*SE]

PukeFest,    never heard of it. If they jump Chargers. If not 

[0X01B8]

I wish there was a separate board for the Dukes people.  Mods?  I'd sign that petition.

[THE COLONEL]

I like the show, and Dukesfest, but I also agree about jumping anymore Chargers.  I thought it was cool in 2003 when my son and I first saw a jump, and the few I saw after that, but anymore........   I didn't attend Dukesfest last year, but I too think the hype was built way too high for it.  I feel they need to take a break for a few years from Dukesfest.  Maybe do it every 5-10 years or so.

[aone415]

 

[mopar0166]

there is no need for the jumps to take place anymore, it should just be a good event for duke people to enjoy and meet each other.  

I also know that their are three different types of people on the threads the diehard chargers fans, the chargers fans that could swing ether way and the charger fans that like to enjoy their car for what it is and what kind of enjoyment it can bring them.   I think by having all three perspectives on this forum makes it one the best around for cars and working on cars.    

Maybe the DOH people shouldn't have their own section but have a section for that third group of people that like to enjoy and car and go out of the box with their build.    


that's just my opinion

maybe if the market for a triple green 318 SE went way up and was actually worth the money you would have to spend on those parts would i ever consider bringing it back to original.  Until then my R/T clone with a hemi orange paint job will do greatly.    

thanks everyone for hearing my out.  

[Mike DC]

                                 
I think this site handles the GL issues just fine right now.  This site isn't the center place for DOH fans, but it doesn't restrict GL talk either. 



If you don't like hearing about it, you don't have to open the thread & read it.  The number of topic threads devoted to DOH/GL is not usually a very large chunk of the total here.


 

[Ghoste]

I agree, plus even as someone who might not necessarily be categorized as a DOH fan, I'm not a hater either so I enjoy reading about it.  Separating opens the door to model year segregation too and that has already been bandied about.  There are devoted sites to specific model years and there are devoted sites to DOH.  I often even question the need for a separate wing forum but not quite enough to endorse getting rid of it.
I'd sooner get rid of the off topic forum than separate the general Charger forum into compartments.  That is just a personal thing though.

[tan top]

yeah true !! keep the DOH & GL stuff on here   although i would never paint a second generation up as a GL , i can appreciate the work you GL guys have put into them !! & enjoy reading & looking  at them as much as you guys  own them
in often go over on the GL sites & have a lookie at whats happening find it really intresting in what car is what from the series ..GL 2 , 3 , 5 etc !!

[Bob]

The Dukes brought the Dodge Charger into the big spotlight again. Signed it

[Ghoste]

True.  I have to say that I'm still one of those holdouts though that remembers when everything Mopar was just a dirty little secret and we could get our stuff cheap.  How many other graybeards remember Charger parts going way up in price when the series became popular?


The devil's advocate in me keeps whispering "repro parts, repro parts", so there is that too. 

[Todd Wilson]

Lets jump General Leroy instead!   

[0X01B8]

whatever.  I shoulda known my suggestion would be treated as some form of censorship.     It wasn't.  It's really more of a functional thing for the site.  I will admit - and you'll use this against me - that I'm sick of the GLs.  Even so, I've complimented jb666 on the fantastic work he's doing to his.

Anyway, I'd think if you're interested in the Dukes then you'd click over - everything Dukes in one spot!  Fans could easily miss a thread in the current format.  Why not collapse all the tech boards into one?  They still pertain to Chargers, right?  If you're interested in body work you shouldn't mind seeing threads about roller cams, right?  You don't have to read them.  There are 5 GL related threads on the front page of Charger Discussion.  What number do we need to get to before my suggestion makes sense?  6?  10?  15?

Maybe if this thread didn't come through in ALL CAPS, then I might have been able to keep quiet.   

[Brock Samson]

i somewhat agree,.. my beef is the pure number of chargers being cloned, some are very cool, like DUKETONA and i do appreciate folks who just bomb around in them as they please bringing joy to all the little children in the world,..
but damn, seems every other charger is orange with vectors,.. I didn't drink the cool aid,.. sorry,..   

[Landonsrt]

I agree too. I probably wouldnt have had any interest in buying a charger, let alone a 69 if it hadnt been for that show. I have NO interest in painting mine bright orange with an 01 and rebel flag on it but thats just me. I have serious reservations about painting mine orange at all cause i dont want people saying, Oh, theres a general lee!
But i guess it goes with having thats specific year car..

Ive seen many GL's since i live in GA. Mines just not going to be one too. I still have to say also that it does take hard work turning a charger into a GL so i have no hate for the people that do it. Your putting work into your car and its a hobby just like mine!

[Chris G.]

The Dukes brought the Dodge Charger into the big spotlight again. Signed it

The Charger was never out of the spotlight in my eyes. I never watched the show ever, yet still fell in love with a Dodge Charger. That feeling has been with me since I was 12 (1982). The first Charger I ever saw was yellow w/green top. I thought it was the greatest thing on earth...I also bought that very car 4 years later.

some are very cool, like DUKETONA

I needed a good laugh today. 

[Mike DC]

  

If the boards start getting too overwhelmed with GL talk at the expense of other stuff, then I'd say go ahead and change things.  But IMHO that's not really the case right now.  There are several threads on there right now but a lot of times there is few or none of them.



The five threads about the GL on the front page include a couple of normal project-update threads about some members' cars that also happen to wear orange paint.  And one of the threads is complaining about a 3rd-gen incorrectly getting that paintjob when it shouldn't.

[aone415]

As a kid I did watch DOH religiously, but it was only because my dad had his 68 in the garage.  The DOH series only affirmed my opinion that the Charger was the baddest car on the planet!  The DOH did make the Charger cool to MOPAR novices and neophytes.  However I think the whole DOH clone car is truly overplayed.  I think that there are some really great cars out there that deserve a lil personality apart from DOH.  Does that mean I hate all GL's... no, I actually like them, however I get a bigger kick out of seeing a DMCL or a Bullitt car just because they are rare and therefore special, in my eyes. 

Just think if everyone that had a 1982 T/A converted it into a KITT... how boring would that be???

[dukeboy320]

That for all your supporite. na dyou all have the right ro your own opinions

[69bronzeT5]

That for all your supporite. na dyou all have the right ro your own opinions

Spellcheck buddy!

[Lizey]

signed it   
#33

cant see many more people signing though

[gsharp47]

Why not take the ones they jumped and restore them at a duke fest that would have some class to it and then have Dasiey ride around in it Heha!!!!!!

[Sublime69]

Sign a petition that allows the ongoing destruction of Charger's, Fury's, Gran Fury's, Coronets, etc? 

Yeah right. Maybe I'm a "Duke-ist" but I think the majority of people that go to those gatherings aren't even Mopar/Charger guys in the least. Most of them are just a bunch of yeeheerrr's stuck on a poorly acted '80s tv show that wasn't even mostly filmed in the south.

Really, what do people get out of watching a perfectly good car fly through the air and be completely obliterated? I can see some guy that's in his 40's now watching the event with his son like one of those precious father/son moments and he takes his hat off and salutes the 'Ol General with tears in his eyes like a military memorial as it leaps through the air and bumper first into the dirt. "See son, that's the General....be proud son." 

Just go meet at the Boars Nest, have one too many beers, and watch re-runs of the show and leave the cars alone. If you really want to see cars get wrecked, go to a demolition derby.

[mopar0166]

   for the most part.   Wish I would have had the chance to go to a dukefest even with out my general but i wont be going for the jumps anyway proably more for the atmosphere and meet and greet.       

[jb666]

whatever.  I shoulda known my suggestion would be treated as some form of censorship.    It wasn't.  It's really more of a functional thing for the site.  I will admit - and you'll use this against me - that I'm sick of the GLs.  Even so, I've complimented jb666 on the fantastic work he's doing to his.

Anyway, I'd think if you're interested in the Dukes then you'd click over - everything Dukes in one spot!  Fans could easily miss a thread in the current format.  Why not collapse all the tech boards into one?  They still pertain to Chargers, right?  If you're interested in body work you shouldn't mind seeing threads about roller cams, right?  You don't have to read them.  There are 5 GL related threads on the front page of Charger Discussion.  What number do we need to get to before my suggestion makes sense?  6?  10?  15?

Maybe if this thread didn't come through in ALL CAPS, then I might have been able to keep quiet.    

Indeed you did, and I thank you!

I don't think the only Chargers out there are GL's. It's just MY dream, and I don't try to jam that down anyone's throat... Love it or leave it is my theory!!

I, personally, love them all.. I'm not one of these people that'll tell someone (here especially) "your car's a load" or "Wow, why'd you trash your car like that?!?!". We're all here for the same reasons, these gorgeous cars....... I never understood all of the hard-headed negativity towards certain builds, but oh well, to each his own  

That said, I HAVE NO FREAKIN' DESIRE TO EVER go to a Dukefest. I consider myself a diehard fan, just not something I want to do.

As far as the GL/Dukes website(s) out there, I only know of one, and to say the least I won't be visiting that place.. It's like a group of dork Trekkies with Orange cars.. Get a life, people 

[Rolling_Thunder]

I wish there was a separate board for the Dukes people.  Mods?  I'd sign that petition.

      Don;t get me wrong I love the CARS - but i think the DOH is kinda like the Oakland Raiders...      the Team is alright but the fans give them a bad name...       Kinda look at the DOH the same way - I just think the whole GL thing is way overdone...     I mean if that is your dream awesome!  but I just don't see the appeal     

[2Gunz]

What are we saving it from?

[mopar0166]

From not existing anymore, it was said that due to a lack of numbers last year the 2009 dukefest would be canceled.   

[Ghoste]

I don't see how signing a petition would change attendance?

[Mike DC]

 

Last year's attendance was as high as several previous DOH events that were considered successful when they happened. 


The one in 2008 just became a "failure" when it failed to pull in much larger numbers than any DOH event ever has before. 

[Ghoste]

Ah, I see.  So the hope is that the petition will get them to change their definition of a successful attendance number.  With things as they are this year, it may take a very large petition in order to do that because I think the numbers would be a lot lower this year anyway.

[PocketThunder]

 

Last year's attendance was as high as several previous DOH events that were considered successful when they happened. 


The one in 2008 just became a "failure" when it failed to pull in much larger numbers than any DOH event ever has before. 

So its kind of like the stock market?   

[runningman]

I have to admit it was pretty cool seeing them jump a GL the first year I went but I missed the others since I we had to catch flights.  Honestly after you see something like that once it isn't really necessary to see it again.  I went a couple of times when it was in Nashville since that is a great town to party in and I don't get a chance to get out much anymore.  It was cool seeing the cast there and they are all very nice...

[Mike DC]

I have to admit it was pretty cool seeing them jump a GL the first year I went but I missed the others since I we had to catch flights.  Honestly after you see something like that once it isn't really necessary to see it again.

That's kind of the feeling that a lot of people have.  


The thrill of seeing a GL jumping still hasn't worn off for me.  
I would prefer they stop it.  But if it's gonna happen either way then I might as well see it while I can.


It's no weirder than major pro sports fans.  Plenty of people find certain sports worth watching once but not repeatedly, others get really into them.

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I think the majority of the hardcore DOH fans would like to see the jumping stop too.  But the events tend to rely on selling tickets to A LOT of local people at each location, and jumping an actual GL is more relevant to getting that audience showing up each time.  

They haven't been filling the stands with 10-20,000+ people just by getting the diehard DOH crowd.  (The diehards are a few hundred people, many on a first-name basis with each other.)

           

[Ghoste]

So the show primarily appeals to the Yee-haw steroetype?

[Mike DC]

That, and the local fans of almost any car show or amusement park kind of deal.  It's generally not a drunken event.  Sobriety and kid-friendly stuff rules the day.   



The Charger flies for 3 seconds out of an entire weekend.  Most of the time it's a car show and other stuff.  The biggest ones have included rock/country bands playing, inflatable playground stuff, freestyle bike ramping shows, demo derbies, lawnmower races, etc. 

It's surprising how many people still spend hours in line just to meet the cast members 25 years after the show ended.   The DOH diehards usually got all their autographs years ago, but tons of eager locals still turn out every time.




 

[justin1987]

Screw Dukesfest. They've ruined enough '69 Chargers. I'll sign the petition when they stop jumping cars.

They started reusing the same car about 2 years ago. Trust me, that car was way too far gone to be restored. The quarter panels were made out of foam, cardboard, and duct tape.

[Ghoste]

Regardless of many they've destroyed or will in the future, doing it to a mass market encourages the idea that it's okay.

[maxwellwedge]

I think buying tickets makes more sense than a petition. They want your ass in their seat. Petitions don't guarantee $$$ - Seliing tickets does.

[2Gunz]

It needs to be re marketed is all.

Have a tractor pull.

Have a stack car race.

Have a demo.

Any one of those things seems to pack the stands.

Then add in a bunch or orange cars are your sure to have a winner.

[Ghoste]

There's a good idea.  You can still meet the remaining cast and maybe some other "Dukesy" things without the Charger smashing.