On the topic of cheap fuel injection

[CFMopar]

http://www.affordable-fuel-injection.com/


this site says they can do a basic set up for 750 bucks.

Im gonna inquire more latter.

[d72hemi]

keep us updated!

[Ghoste]

I don't think it was cheap, but whatever happened to the Rance setup that everyone was making noise about a few years ago?  Wasn't he fabbing up some kind of Mopar specific kit?

[CFMopar]

http://www.rancefi.com/


they have mopar setups and I think its what your refereing to. Their nice but a little steep. But you can get tuned port which would be cool.

[Ghoste]

Yeah, that's the one.  I remember Mopar Action in particular getting pretty excited about the Rance system but then they kind of just quit talking about it.  I suppose everyone is waiting to see if the Edelbrock kit will be the way to go.

[CFMopar]

I dont think the edelbrock one has the same adapability to higher hp aplications as many of the more expensive ones out their....

[Rolling_Thunder]

Edelbrock is a Speed Density system....   easiest and simplest to make...    i would like a Mass Air Flow system...   and im sorry $4000+ for a tuned port fuel injection system is WAY too much...    hell i bet i can build one for less than half that

[Ghoste]

Agreed, but the topic was "cheap" fuel injection and I think that will be the main selling feature of the Edelbrock unit.  Like all good advertisers, I think the mags will soon be running thier setup in tons of features.

[doctorpimp]

http://www.affordable-fuel-injection.com/


this site says they can do a basic set up for 750 bucks.

Im gonna inquire more latter.

I bet it's '80s technology TBI for that price.   Good fuel economy, but no power.
I checked out http://www.momarefi.com/ starts at $2974.00 complete for MPI.   Using Electromotive Tec3r w/Distributorless Ignition.   DREAM...

[CFMopar]

Where did u get that price?

[Chryco Psycho]

Year One has the Eddy multi port system listed for $2900

[Ghoste]

For nearly three thousand dollars, it may be a while before there is great efi revolution for our old cars.  You can buy a lot of other parts for 3 grand.

[doctorpimp]

Where did u get that price?

I sent them an email late in the Summer:
Hello,
> I am looking for prices for a Mopar "B" eng EFI MPI setup.
> Can you help me?

Reply:

Hi Paul;

The system we have for your BB Mopar is the "Custom Series"  it starts
at $2974.00
complete,  you supply the manifold, or we will supply at jobber cost

Thank you
Dave
momar Injection

[doctorpimp]

400 Stroker with Momar EFI and TEC3 dist-less ignition:

[doctorpimp]

For nearly three thousand dollars, it may be a while before there is great efi revolution for our old cars.   You can buy a lot of other parts for 3 grand.

This system is distributor-less and includes computer-tuneable fuel management, with a 1000 cfm aluminum throttle body. 
All told, going old-school would be half (MSD distributor $382, 1050 CFM Dominator $675, MSD 6AL $229, MSD Coil $40, Holley electric fuel pump $145,etc...) BUT, you get better fuel economy, torque, idle quality etc, etc, etc.
The money you save in fuel over a few years of use as a daily driver, pays for the other half.

[CFMopar]

Its definently something I'm going to do just when. The momar setup for 3gs sounds good. I sent and email inquiring will see.

[Ghoste]

I agree Doc but I think there will still be a lot of people who stick with the old stuff at that price.  A lot of folks are going to already have the old school stuff sitting around.  More power and tuneability are clear benfits but how many of us use these cars for daily drivers.  In my case, it would take a long time to recoup any costs in better mileage.  Then again, fuel is never going to be cheaper so you could be right on the couple of year thing even for the weekend drivers like me.
Overall, I think it will be a gradual acceptance of efi over carbs.

[doctorpimp]

Maybe it'll get cheaper with the advances in technology.
Just like DVD players and TV's etc...
You never know.

[d72hemi]

Didn't someone post a way to use exsisting EFI system from a car/truck and make it work with our SB/BB engines? the "old" d-c site?


Ian

[Rolling_Thunder]

no   someone did on another site though...   using a ford MAF system....   up the injector size and a few modifications to the wiring and some stuff here and there and it is possible...   im planning on doing this myself...    $1500 alternative that is self adjusting... 

[doctorpimp]

no     someone did on another site though...     using a ford MAF system....     up the injector size and a few modifications to the wiring and some stuff here and there and it is possible...     im planning on doing this myself...      $1500 alternative that is self adjusting...  

Tell us more...
Do you have a link for this info?

[d72hemi]

Rolling Thunder,

Do you know what type/year/engine of car/truck/SUV needed to salvage to make it work? I assume that you don't remember the site that you seen this on? Thank you, I love to go to junk yards to get what I need/want!

Ian

[Ghoste]

That's a more agreeable price.  I think the other thing that will need to happen is for someone to write an easy to understand yet comprehensive guide on this.  For many of us, the idea of pulling a spark plug and changing the jets seems easier than plugging in a laptop and calibrating a fuel map.  It shouldn't be that way but the perception is out there.
For that matter, does a laptop need to be included in the cost of efi if you are looking to really get it tuned hot?

[CFMopar]

Its not so much the laptop its more the issues of wiring everything up I think.

[Ghoste]

Strictly speaking as a computer illiterate, for me, it's the laptop.   The wiring too I suppose but in all reality, knowing nothing about it, I'm in no position to judge.  I'm showing fear for something I haven't seen which is pretty stupid really.
I'll have to see it on someone else's car first and then I can start to get my arms around it a little better.  Not a good theory type maybe.