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I am now a Charger owner!!!

Started by moparnole, June 18, 2009, 03:57:32 PM

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moparnole

Well it took a while, but now I am the owner of a 1970 Charger.
I paid just $500 for it, and it came with ALOT of parts inside just for me!!
I know that this is one ROUGH Charger, but I think that it can be restored, and also has nice frame rails :2thumbs:


















moparnole


moparnole

more!!!!!!!





















It is leaning because 1 tire still holds air....and it does it very well


moparnole


moparnole


CB

Holy crap!  :o

Cool to know you gonna save that poor Charger!
Good luck with the resto!!!

CB
1968 Dodge Coronet 500

lexxman

Welcome to the club.It looks like you'll have allot of work ahead of you.But as long as if you have good bones,it's all good.What engines in it?

69bronzeT5

Congrats!!! The roof and other parts look burnt....or is that just surface rust? Somebody did a good number to that thing! Glad you are saving it! Good luck with the restoration :2thumbs:


Don't forget to register it.... :cheers:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

moparnole

And now for the crazy story of how we got it off the trailor. When we finally got home a 2:00 a.m., we decided to go ahead and take it off the trailor, because we had to return it the next morning. So first we took the trailor and backed it up to a shed around back, but when we got there we discovered that the Charger was NOT going to come off because the front of the trailor was in a dip, making the Charger lean forward, but being hardheaded, we decided to go ahead and try our luck with using a hand winch to pull it off, and that never really had a chance, so we then decided that we would try it on a hill, so we pulled up a little bit, but the same thing happened.....NOTHING, so then we decided that we were going to tie a strap around the rear axle, and the other to a tree and just pull out from under it, foolproof right?...Well until we tried it. we got the car to move just a little bit, until the rear tires were on the ramp, and then my Dad's Yukon decided it did'nt want traction anymore, but that didnt stop him, he kept on trying until we were certain that it was not going to come off the trailor that way. But the a stroke of genius hit us, we would take my grandpa's '79 phord, and pull the Yukon while it was pulling the Charger, problem solved and we get to go to bed....nope. the old phord started then quit, and it would not start, so then ANOTHER stroke of genius, why dont we use my Supra to pull it out? Well at this point I had been up 22 hours, and was not in a very good mood, and ticked off that we were having all these problems unloading it, so when I got my car out I decided that I would be sure to yank the Yukon across the street if I had to, so we put a hitch on the Supra, and tied a BIG rope to my car, and ther Yukon, and when he started pulling, I gave it gas and stalled it, determined not to do that again, I buried my foot in it, and lit the rears up in a cloud of smoke, and pulled the big bad SUV out of the little grass hill (as shone in the pictures) and the Charger came off the trailor and didnt hit anything.By then it was 4:00 a.m., and time to go to bed. :cheers:

moparnole

Some one took the fender tag off of the car, but the motor in it now is a 318, and as for the roof it is just surface rust.

PocketThunder

Do you own an air compressor and a sand blaster?  Welder?  Rotisserie?  I would start with those 3 things first and a couple ($4000) worth of sheetmetal from AMD and you'll be back in good shape.  Good luck grasshopper!   :2thumbs:
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mopar_nut_440_6

Looks like a bit of work but restorable. Is it an SE?

Good luck!

1968 Charger R/T 440 
2004 Dodge Ram 2500 680 HP Cummins with attitude

charge-it

Congratulations and good luck. If you like that Charger as much as I like my 68 you'll be forever broke trying to make it perfect. Take it slow and do it right the first time.
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moparnole

I have no idea if it is an SE, the only thing there is the VIN#

jb666


1969chargerrtse

It's great to see your appreciation for owning a 2nd gen Charger.  They only made them once and it's great to know that car will be on the road once again.  Good Luck and keep in touch with more cool pictures. :2thumbs:
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

TheGhost

Wow...  Good luck, is all I can say...
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

bull

I'm not a '70 expert but wouldn't XP mean 383 at least? Or is that just a trim code letter? I can't see someone putting a 318 in a big block car though.

Anyway, looks like a good start on your project. All the sheetmetal you're going to need is being reproduced so all you need is $$$$$$$$$$$. Why did you end up with a wheelhouse piece? Is one of them bent?

69bronzeT5

Quote from: bull on June 18, 2009, 06:36:25 PM
I'm not a '70 expert but wouldn't XP mean 383 at least? Or is that just a trim code letter? I can't see someone putting a 318 in a big block car though.

XP is base model....that would be Slant 6, 318 & 383 from what I understand. I'm not a '70 guru though. However, I think the vin is XP29G...and assuming '70 is the same as '69 in codes, G would be 383.
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

moparnole

As far as all the parts go, there was just a ton of them that he had, and I think he just accumalated over a period of time.
So does that mean that the car was origionaly a 383 car?

bull

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on June 18, 2009, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: bull on June 18, 2009, 06:36:25 PM
I'm not a '70 expert but wouldn't XP mean 383 at least? Or is that just a trim code letter? I can't see someone putting a 318 in a big block car though.

XP is base model....that would be Slant 6, 318 & 383 from what I understand. I'm not a '70 guru though. However, I think the vin is XP29G...and assuming '70 is the same as '69 in codes, G would be 383.

No, I believe XH means base model in 1970. XP was a step up in '70 but I just don't know if that has anything to do with engines or just trim.

If I had to guess I'd say he's got a 318 500 SE car and the SE is signified by XP in the VIN. WTH are the '70 experts waiting for? Stop buffing that big a$$ loop bumper and help us out here, guys!

Try this: http://www.stockmopar.com/mopar-vin-decoder.php?VIN=XP29G0G123432

moparnole


bull

Yea, eventually. :2thumbs:

I can't read the remainder of your sequence number but the important part is XP29G0G. If I'm reading that right I'd say you've got what I said above, an SE 500 with a 318. I can also tell you it had A/C :2thumbs: and the door panels look like SE panels too. An XH '70 would not have those or the upper door pads among other things.

You might want to check out this site: http://1970chargerregistry.com/

Also, why does the license plate say Ohio and Washington?

moparnole

the whole thing is

XP29GOG103264

HAVE FUN!! :icon_smile_big:

moparheater

Quote from: charge-it on June 18, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
Congratulations and good luck. If you like that Charger as much as I like my 68 you'll be forever broke trying to make it perfect. Take it slow and do it right the first time.

I agree, take your time, do it right, enjoy the journey, and take lots of pics for us!

Brock Samson

how was the trip up there?..  :popcrn:
I really enjoyed your gittin her off the trailer at 2:00 am story, reminds me of so many little itty bitty things that grew into sagas of epic proportions to git mine done,.. of course this was back in the pre internet days when I could just act out the dramas around a fire in the cave...
lookin forward to this restore...

bull

Quote from: moparnole on June 18, 2009, 07:39:22 PM
the whole thing is

XP29GOG103264

HAVE FUN!! :icon_smile_big:

Yup: http://www.stockmopar.com/mopar-vin-decoder.php?VIN=XP29G0G103264

The good thing about your car is that the sky's pretty much the limit as far as what direction you go. When someone gives you any hell about the non-factory original modifications you'll most likely make just show them the before pictures and they'll shut right up.

moparnole

Yea, that is a pretty basic Charger, should make a nice R/T clone one day!!
The trip down there was VERY uneventful, until we got to Palm Beach and got lost, but we figured out that if we listen to the GPS we could more often than not avoid that.  :lol:

Finn

Nice score man! Lots of needed parts seem to be there. Good luck and keep us updated.
1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
1970 Dodge Challenger RT/SE 383 magnum
1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L 360
2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L

tan top

got some metal work going on there dude !!!  that stuff always looks worse!! not difficult to do just takes a lot of time removing rusty shrapnell & cleaning it up !!   keep the pictures coming dude !! love this kind of stuff  :popcrn: :coolgleamA:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Buzzit1

good luck on your project, it's nice to know that some of the old "ex-warriors' are still being saved from the crusher.  I admire you for taking this project on.

Jim

Brightyellow69rtse

wow, as much as i love chargers i dont think i could do one thats that bad to start. i wish you the best of luck!

bearbqd

Wow, don't you mean your now the owner of a partial Charger??  :icon_smile_tongue: Definitely got your work cut out, but it looks saveable enough. I'm glad someones attempting it.
73 Cuda 440/500hp
71 Javelin in progress

moparnole

Yea, new owner of MOST of a 1970 Dodge Charger!! :lol:

moparnole

What is the cheapest, most reliable place to get body parts for this bad boy?
Also is there any place where I can get the rear quarters with the part of the roof on it for under $750?

mopar73

AMD is your best bet.  remember, you get what you pay for :Twocents:

skip68

AMD .   :2thumbs:   They make door skins , roofs, hoods, full quarters, fenders, trunk lids, floor pans and a few more things I think.   That car can be fixed, no problem just a few bucks.    :2thumbs:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


69*F5*SE

It'll probably cost you 750.00 per side for full quarters from Auto Metal Direct + shipping.

moparnole

It is funny because every time I leave the house, I am paranoid about someone stealing the Charger, and I know that with 3 flat tires it isnt going anywhere,I don't know, I guess it is because I just got it after wanting one for 10 years....

By the way, the car came with a left, and right side quarter panel skin, is there a way these will work, or will it be to thin?

skip68

 :2thumbs:  You got some metal to use.  They should work.    :yesnod:    I know the feeling of keeping the car safe.  When I got mine it had no engine, tranny or interior but I still thought somebody might take it.  Keep it covered.
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


moparnole

Back 8 years ago we had a go-cart that we kept back there and it got stolen, but honestly I think that if they have the same problems we had trying to get it OFF the trailor, they just might bring it back :lol:

moparnole

What do you guys think about the idea of parting this car out? My dad seems to think that I could make my money back and then some off of it, but I feel that with the economy that people wont be willing to buy, or pay a price that we want for it, what do you guys think?

moparheater

I think somebody already parted it out for you! If you are getting cold feet about this big project then sell what you can and save up for a more complete project. You'll save more time and money in the long run by spending more up front.

moparnole

I would like to keep and restore this car, my dad is on the verge of retirement and looking for something to do after work to get a little income, and he was suggesting parting out my rusty amputated baby, with all the parts that are pictures, do you think I could get 1,500 out of it?

OldGuy

It doesn't look like there is much to part out - roof and doors, chrome and some of the parts he gave you.  You might make your $500 back, but no much more than that.
"I can tell by your sarcastic undertones, rude comments and total lack of common decency, that you and I could be best friends".

moparnole

What about selling all the parts that came with it that are pictured?

OldGuy

Can't tell what all you have besides one fender, your bumpers and looks like a trunk lid.  The interior parts (door panels, etc.) aren't worth much - most of that can be bought new through Legendary.  Thing to do is make a list of everything you feel can be parted and sold, check E-Bay or "Parts For Sale" on this site and other Mopar sites for prices on like kind parts and add it up.
"I can tell by your sarcastic undertones, rude comments and total lack of common decency, that you and I could be best friends".

moparnole

so the general consensis is that I would be better to keep what I have and build on it?

69*F5*SE

No, not really.  The tail light trim panel, tail lights, tail light cover (big black plastic piece that mounts over the light housings in the trunk), bumpers, decklid, doors etc. are all sellable. You're better off selling everything you can and save your money for something better. That thing is too far gone and is worth more in parts.  Do yourself a favor and start listing the above parts with pics to try and recoup your $500.  I'm just being truthful and realistic.  I know you're excited to have it but, you're better off without it.  You'll probably make a few extra bucks too once you've sold what you can.  Those quarter skins might be a hard sell so good luck with them.  Someone had to tell you, may as well be me.   :Twocents:

G-man

On a mental/emotional side... If you can restore that to a show car, ud feel proud the rest of your life knowing what it used to be and thats something money cant pay for. :Twocents:

If ur just after a charger and whocares... then ur like me and u just want something u can put the key in and drive.

six-tee-nine

It's just how you look at it.....

If you can handle a welder and see restoring old cars as a hobby (means you know what your up against with something like you have there).
Then I don't see the problem. All the panels you need can be aquired today from AMD.
Of course the bodywork alone will set you back several thousands, but aferall you started cheap...

However if you are missing alot of trim and interior parts, then the bill will rise up real fast.
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Back N Black

It will take $30,000 to make the car look nice.Think about that before diving into a big project.
:Twocents:

PocketThunder

Quote from: Back N Black on July 24, 2009, 06:56:40 AM
It will take $30,000 to make the car look nice.Think about that before diving into a big project.
:Twocents:

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

You can spend the next 5~10 years working on this car and spending every dime you have on it, all so you can drive it 5~10 years from now... or.... sell it off and save up some more money and try to get a loan (bank of Dad) and buy a complete car that you can drive now, then you pay off the loan while you drive your car, instead of paying for the Charger while working on it constantly and not driving your car.

:Twocents:

I've done the former twice now and you'd think i learned my lesson the first two times, but no, i have a rusty Charger sitting in my garage that needs 5 years of work and $30,000.   :brickwall:  Anyone wanna buy a Charger?  :icon_smile_big:
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moparnole

Ill trade you mine!!!! :lol:
Alot of trim pieces came with the car, but as far as interior it just came with door panels, and SE trim stuff...

69*F5*SE

So, are you going to sell off the parts and make some money?  A lot of guys don't have the tail light housing cover. I bet someone would go for that one.  I'm glad I got one already.  They finish off the trunk well. Then there's all the other parts you can offer for sale. 

JT01

Hey moparnole where do you live at I noticed on the plate it says Washington county I live in Morgan right beside it.

Finn

 :scratchchin:
You couldn't be welder shy if you were to bring this back. But on the plus there's a lot of areas to practice on haha. I think it could be brought back but you'd be in it for the long haul.
1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
1970 Dodge Challenger RT/SE 383 magnum
1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L 360
2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L

moparnole

The liscense  plate is from the last time this car was on the road back in 1990, so you may have seen this one before?
Quote from: JT01 on July 24, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
Hey moparnole where do you live at I noticed on the plate it says Washington county I live in Morgan right beside it.

JT01

I know its a old plate and I think I remember the car I was just wondering if you are from around this area.

moparnole

no man, i live in Chattahoochee florida, close to tallahassee

69bronzeT5

I wouldn't part it. I'd try to save it if I were you :yesnod:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Charger440RDN

Any updates on the Charger? This car can basically be rebuilt with all of the new stuff from AMD and others, it wouldn't be cheap but it would be fun to watch the restoration. I love to see Chargers brought back from the grave. :popcrn:

Khyron

Quote from: bull on June 18, 2009, 07:43:50 PM
The good thing about your car is that the sky's pretty much the limit as far as what direction you go. When someone gives you any hell about the non-factory original modifications you'll most likely make just show them the before pictures and they'll shut right up.

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moparnole

Well no progress yet, progress will start after football is over and I can get a job, there are several spots that I can get one, so  Im gonna start saving up and put a new body on my rusty arthritic baby.

Finn

1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
1970 Dodge Challenger RT/SE 383 magnum
1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L 360
2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L