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Started by dillon14, June 17, 2009, 05:19:15 PM

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dillon14

I am just about done with my Daytona clone. It will be painted black Thursday and then we are going to paint the stripe on and paint the wing red. Can someone tell me, so I can tell my autobody guy , what the red wing and red stripe color is called or better yet an actual paint number?

Thanks

This is what my car will look like when finished with the red wing and stripe:





1970 Dodge Coronet R/T 426 Hemi 4-Speed 1 of 4
1969 Boss 429
1968 Shelby GT-500KR 4-Speed Convertible

nascarxx29

This is the color term I refer to it as Tomato red stripe.I dont know if thats what its known as
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

dillon14

I WAS THINKING IT WAS THE 69 COLOR "HEMI ORANGE"


1970 Dodge Coronet R/T 426 Hemi 4-Speed 1 of 4
1969 Boss 429
1968 Shelby GT-500KR 4-Speed Convertible

UFO

I think if you install the stripe then get a paint supplier or body shop to use a color scanner on it you will get a better match.

Davtona

I'm thinking its R-4 Red. :scratchchin: I have heard it called tomato red also. And matching the wing paint to the actual stripe makes perfect sense as shades of almost any color varies.

hemigeno

Quote from: Davtona on June 17, 2009, 06:16:31 PM
I'm thinking its R-4 Red. :scratchchin: I have heard it called tomato red also.

:iagree:

Since the original poster said they were going to paint the stripe on, it really doesn't matter if it's a 100% match to any particular stripe vendor's vinyl color.  Also, even though I've heard it before, I can't find any reference to "Tomato Red" in any factory information - it's just called "Red" in the paperwork.

:Twocents:


**Edit**  The Service Manual gives a Chrysler Code for R4 Red of AY2DR4, and a Ditzler Code of 71582

dillon14

Yes, to clarify, we are going to paint the stripe on and not use decal.


1970 Dodge Coronet R/T 426 Hemi 4-Speed 1 of 4
1969 Boss 429
1968 Shelby GT-500KR 4-Speed Convertible

dillon14

When I look at the 1969 PPG Dodge color chart, and I hear the term "Tomato Red", I think of more of an redish orange color and that is why I mentioned the V2 Hemi Orange rather than the R4 Charger Red. I may be way off base on this but wonder if it would look better with the Charger Red.


1970 Dodge Coronet R/T 426 Hemi 4-Speed 1 of 4
1969 Boss 429
1968 Shelby GT-500KR 4-Speed Convertible

hemigeno

If you compare R4 "Red" to anything actually/really RED, it will definitely look orangish... unless it's beside something orange, in which case it'll look quite red...   :brickwall:


nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Davtona

Quote from: dillon14 on June 17, 2009, 06:42:37 PM
Yes, to clarify, we are going to paint the stripe on and not use decal.

I guess I missed that part. Sorry.

Dave Kanofsky

Dave Patik at Performance Car Graphics is THE authority, I believe his paperwork said R4.
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Mopurr

Dave & Geno are Correct it is R4 Referred to in Dodge sales litature as Bright Red......It is a reddish orange....believe me I know this quite well, when our Charger & Daytona are referred to as orange.....they are both R4.

Orange Car next to it as mentioned it is Red.
Red Car next to it and it is orange

street lights make it orange as a pumpkin.

The other Red Color in 69 is R6 Red.  It is more of a Crimson Red

I like the Red Wing Cars and R4 is the correct code for your wing.

Plymouth's R4 color in 69 referred to as Baracuda Orange


If R4 was ever actually referred to as Charger Red it was not in 1969

http://www.oldride.com/library/1969_dodge_charger.html


The above link is to the sales litature


Mopurr

Duh....

that is right ppg refers to it as Charger Red but the Dodge Car Sales Litature calls it Bright Red so I always go by the sales Lit.

dillon14

Just so you don't think I made up the "Charger Red: name, this is where I saw it:





1970 Dodge Coronet R/T 426 Hemi 4-Speed 1 of 4
1969 Boss 429
1968 Shelby GT-500KR 4-Speed Convertible

UFO

Quote from: Davtona on June 17, 2009, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: dillon14 on June 17, 2009, 06:42:37 PM
Yes, to clarify, we are going to paint the stripe on and not use decal.

I guess I missed that part. Sorry.

Your not the only one who missed that part.

hemigeno

Quote from: dillon14 on June 18, 2009, 05:24:36 AM
Just so you don't think I made up the "Charger Red: name, this is where I saw it:


You definitely didn't make up the Charger Red name - I think that's what they first called it in 1968, although I don't remember the paint code (33-1?).

In '69 they called it three different things.  In one batch of paperwork, they called it "Charger Red" again.  Another couple of sheets call it just "Red", and the Color/Upholstery Guide calls it "Bright Red".

R6 Red (much more of a true red color) is also called "Bright Red" on the same paperwork/sheets where R4 is called "Charger Red" and then they refer to it as just "Red" when the term "Bright Red" is given to R4 as on the Color/Upholstery Guide's color swatches.  They're all over the place when it comes to names...


Mopurr

I was not saying that you made up the name, the duh was to me forgeting how many times it has been referred to as Charger Red to me and that it is listed as that in the ppg paint codes

Gene could I get a copy of the info listing the colors from Dodge differently, love other documentation knowledge

BigBlockSam

i think if your painting the the stripe on yourself .make it the shade of red you like. i like it a little more orange-y then the tomato red color stripe . it's your creation .  :Twocents:
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dillon14

Decided to go with the R4 red. I'll put a few photos on when it is completed.


1970 Dodge Coronet R/T 426 Hemi 4-Speed 1 of 4
1969 Boss 429
1968 Shelby GT-500KR 4-Speed Convertible

GeneralLeeTESH

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hemigeno

Quote from: Mopurr on June 18, 2009, 10:38:14 AM
Gene could I get a copy of the info listing the colors from Dodge differently, love other documentation knowledge

Sure thing Sherri, but it may take a couple days.  I already owe Chris (Just6T9) some hi-res photos of a couple documents and I'm woefully behind getting him taken care of.  Would you want me just to snailmail the copies to you?  If so, PM me your addy.

I can probably only get you a picture of the paint chip cards though, as a b&w Xerox copy won't do you much good  :lol:

BTW, don't forget to jot down the stuff from your notebook for me when you get a chance! 

:cheers:

Mopurr

Thank you Gene.

I have an online picture of the PPG paint code chips and the dodge litature has them in it also.  So I was primarly interested in the paperwork that referenced to the other names.....are these the paint chip cards?

I have been very bad......sorry I have not gotten that info to you I was actually just thinking of that when I was at the TDC meet the end of last month.

You don't have to be in a hurry about the info, just when you get time.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

UFO

Regarding different paint names.
This is from the '69 fast facts binder issued by Chrysler Canada.
Even the truck charts have different names for some colors.