Who's running a blower, nitrous etc?

[GTX]

I got to wondering, how many people currently have a blown Mopar?
Who currently has nitrous installed and uses it?
Anyone run alcohol?
Does anyone run a fuel car?

Just wondering about the added power crowd.


As for me, I'm blown on the GTX and currently no power at all in the Charger.


Oh yea, let's add who has a stroked engine?

[Blown70]

I got to wondering, how many people currently have a blown Mopar?
Who currently has nitrous installed and uses it?
Anyone run alcohol?
Does anyone run a fuel car?

Just wondering about the added power crowd.


As for me, I'm blown on the GTX and currently no power at all in the Charger.


Oh yea, let's add who has a stroked engine?

Will have a supercharger soon,  I have changed my mind on the car a bit, instead of a 440,  I am going to run a hemi....

Not sure which company I like best yet, Ya know a lot of opinions out there.

Tom

[Black and Blown]

I got to wondering, how many people currently have a blown Mopar?

As for me, I'm blown on the GTX and currently no power at all in the Charger.

I have a 70 Charger with a blown 440.  Just came back from BDS today -- which ironically is the first day of snow in Cleveland.   

Where can I see pix of your ride?

[Johnny SixPack]

Currently in the process of having a 464 stroker 6-pack built for my "70 Charger.

Planning on a 493/496 for my "69 next.

Maybe supercharged?

I blame this crazy Finn living in Sweden for all of it.  

Wouldn't have gotten here without the help of #57 though.

[Mefirst]

Planning on a 493/496 for my "69 next.

Maybe supercharged?

I blame this crazy Finn living in Sweden for all of it. 

-IF MUCH IS GOOD, THEN MORE IS BETTER!!!

/Tom

[Brock Samson]

ok i give up,.. what's #57?.. 

[Blown70]

ok i give up,.. what's #57?..  

Im thinking RON?  Firefighter

[GTX]

I used to have a pic of the GTX by my name on the old site but no more. I'm having troubles with my ftp directory right now which is where my online pics are and I am stupid and don't know how to post here.
I'm sure I need an online hosting site and hence I'd like to fix my ftp directory again.
Maybe soon but in the meantime it's a '70 GTX with 66 440 with BDS/Hampton blower/ Carter 750 comp series carbs.
Pistol grip 4 speed and 3:55 gearing.
Was originally B7 but now plum although paint is shitty so it's going to be sanded/re- primed next Spring and repainted after I get further on the Charger. Also waiting for the all new interior which I have no time to put in with the Charger taking my time.


Right now the Charger takes priority over the 'X' and we're planning a stroker 400 in that or else I have another 66 440. 


I've seen your Charger...SWEET!!

I got to wondering, how many people currently have a blown Mopar?

As for me, I'm blown on the GTX and currently no power at all in the Charger.

I have a 70 Charger with a blown 440.  Just came back from BDS today -- which ironically is the first day of snow in Cleveland.   

Where can I see pix of your ride?

[firefighter3931]

ok i give up,.. what's #57?..  

Hey Strat, that's me...Johnny was referencing a pic i posted on the oldtimers thread.

Blown Motors....luv em !  Here's some pics of my friends car : tubbed 68 Coronet with a 671 blower. We built the motor in my garage this past summer and it's loaded with goodies....ported Bulldog heads, Comp solid roller cam, Diamond gas ported 7.5:1 pistons etc...

Ron

(1) gas ported slugs....notice the big dish for low compression
(2) degreeing in the cam....112* lsa installed on a 111* intake centerline
(3) the Green Monster puttin some hurt on the Hoosiers at our local track

[GTX]

So nobody is using NAAAAWS??

I just had to say that. 

Seriously, is anyone running Nitrous?

[Blown70]

So nobody is using NAAAAWS??

I just had to say that.  

Seriously, is anyone running Nitrous?

I had thought about it before the supercharger, but I want a constant hp increase, I still do not like most of the progressive systems out..... Call me fussy.  Plus I have always wanted a Supercharger,,, just for the look   And now that I have a chassis that will handle it.... let the games begin

[Johnny SixPack]

So nobody is using NAAAAWS??

I just had to say that.  

Seriously, is anyone running Nitrous?

I had thought about it before the supercharger, but I want a constant hp increase, I still do not like most of the progressive systems out..... Call me fussy.   Plus I have always wanted a Supercharger,,, just for the look   And now that I have a chassis that will handle it.... let the games begin

Are you going to go Roots style?

I'm curious about the screw type superchargers.

Seems like the way to go (less heat than a Roots, linear boost curve - unlike centrifugal).

Anyone here gone that route?

[Blown70]

Are you going to go Roots style?

I'm curious about the screw type superchargers.

Seems like the way to go (less heat than a Roots, linear boost curve - unlike centrifugal).

Anyone here gone that route?

I am going most likely with a Littlefield, Roots style I guess you would call it.  I have not heard much about the screw type that piqued my interest to run one.  I am going a bit larger with mine 10 /71 for sure as this will allow me to not turn the supercharger as hard and therefore not as much heat. as say an 8/71 maybe not a ton of difference the case is only 1 inch bigger but again a few less RPM on the blower to get the same boost will be great....

Tom

[Mefirst]

Im planing on using Naaaws later next season, reason is im cheap and need to save up some cash for the new engine.
Im planing on running a 300hp plate, but with a Edelbrock progressive system. I wont use the whole potential of the plate, ill start with 150hp and raise the Naaws shot just to see how much the 440 can take before it blows up, hopefully Ill chicken out before that happens..

The next engine im planing on is still at its cradle, but plans have already been made, the main objective with the new engine is that it has to make atleast 150hp more what ever Ron #57 (Firefighter) comes up with

A 470cid engine toped with a 671 blower + laughing gas is one option that Ive had under consideration...

/Tom

[Silver R/T]

supercharger for me in future

[Blown70]

Im planing on using Naaaws later next season, reason is im cheap and need to save up some cash for the new engine.
Im planing on running a 300hp plate, but with a Edelbrock progressive system. I wont use the whole potential of the plate, ill start with 150hp and raise the Naaws shot just to see how much the 440 can take before it blows up, hopefully Ill chicken out before that happens..

The next engine im planing on is still at its cradle, but plans have already been made, the main objective with the new engine is that it has to make atleast 150hp more what ever Ron #57 (Firefighter) comes up with

A 470cid engine toped with a 671 blower + laughing gas is one option that Ive had under consideration...

/Tom

You know NOS with a supercharger is really a waste right?  I had the same question to ALL the engine builders NOT one said to do it.  You can I was told but it only cools the charge from the blower and will nothing to add HP as the Supercharger already has made your engine soo efficient.

Tom

[Mefirst]

Blown70*

Yeah, i know, but it doesn't seem to hurt either. The guys over here who run blower engines do also run with Nitrous, and they al say it runs better.. Anyways, nothing is decided yet..

/Tom

[GTX]

It seems to me that although it may ofer a marginal benefit for the dollar since a blower ups that , anything that might increase thermal efficiency is a good thing. A cooler charge can't be a bad thing, especially at altitude ( I'm at 4600' ASL ) and with lousy fuel.
I've thought of doing it just for giggles ( hehe) but I never seem to have the spare scratch, especially with the charger project now.
We should get Ron to weigh in on the matter.

I was an M.E in college but admit I'm not really good at this.


 

[*]

Here is a bottle fed 493". Was planning to run it this year, I ran out of race season this year to use it. Next owner will get to use it.

[Blown70]

Ok,

yes it can help, I guess maybe I sould be clear but not to an extreme point.  Yes a cool charge is good as blower outlet temps on a street blown engine can be has high as 350 degrees.  YES that is correct.  We all know that cool is better, and the density of the air matters.  (we can agree on that correct?)

Thus my decision to run a larger blower and turn it less than a smaller one.  IE. Move more air with less rotaion.  Therefore less heat.

That being said you will not get as much gain from the NOS as you would without the supercharger being present. 

Again, you can do it.  I have asked.  Anyone who builds supercharged engines this question, and they just said the only thing they all said was it will cool the charge..

Now that being said that can be a very positive thing.

However you really cannot shove more AIR into a motor than a *PROPERLY* running supercharger.  Now if you want to run less BOOST from a supercharger and/or underdrive a smaller blower it would help more.

[Mefirst]

Blown70*

You are correct about that Nitrous doesn't add really anything to a blower setup, other than cool the air some thats being forced into the cylinders.

Now please correct me if I'm wrong here. The most efficient blower is the blower which can pack the most air with the lowest temperature at an X amount of boost -Correct? Well this has to be correct cause of your earlier post, its is better to use a larger blower (moves more air with less rpm)

Then lets say that at this X-amount of boost you are having some heat problems, nothing major but still annoying, so to overcome this problem you can use water injectors or use nitrous to "cool" the air down so you don't have to go down in boost, in other words change out the pulley drive ratio.. so you are using a X pulley drive ratio on the street, but at the track you want to go up in boost (power), but that will also cause more heat, which in turn robs you power, then a nitrous or water injection will be the thing that might give you the tenths/hundreds of a second you need to win -True or false?

I know this might be going really into the small details, but still, the small details is often what will get you that 1st place.. (and I'm learning)

/Tom

[yellowcuda]

We are running an 8-71 BDS blower on our 540 Hemi.  It is fuel injected and was built for pump gas.  It is on one of our 69's.  We like it. 

[Blown70]

Blown70*

You are correct about that Nitrous doesn't add really anything to a blower setup, other than cool the air some thats being forced into the cylinders.

Now please correct me if I'm wrong here. The most efficient blower is the blower which can pack the most air with the lowest temperature at an X amount of boost -Correct? Well this has to be correct cause of your earlier post, its is better to use a larger blower (moves more air with less rpm)

Then lets say that at this X-amount of boost you are having some heat problems, nothing major but still annoying, so to overcome this problem you can use water injectors or use nitrous to "cool" the air down so you don't have to go down in boost, in other words change out the pulley drive ratio.. so you are using a X pulley drive ratio on the street, but at the track you want to go up in boost (power), but that will also cause more heat, which in turn robs you power, then a nitrous or water injection will be the thing that might give you the tenths/hundreds of a second you need to win -True or false?

I know this might be going really into the small details, but still, the small details is often what will get you that 1st place.. (and I'm learning)

/Tom

Well at the track you may not build the heat that you will on the street.  As you would do your run and be done.  The inlet temps I spoke of were street driven cars.

Water injection? Not sure if you suggest to run it into the Supercharger,  Never would I try that on a car of mine.  As for the NOS at the stip I still dont think it would make that much of a difference.  Could it.  Maybe.  I still say there is no need.  Not at least from the people I have spoken to.  And these people have run blower for a long LONG time.  Could be set in there ways but I would say if it would help they would do it.