Fiat now owns Chrysler

[Tilar]

I guess it's a completed sale. Just heard it on the boob tube.

[Ghoste]

On eof the local dealers here is good with it.  He says it's a better fit than the Germans and far better than being taken over by GM.  He feels that with Fiat just making small stuff that it will bring some good product mix.
I imagine any dealers who are getting shuttered will have a different opinion.

[mopar0166]

could be worse, but who knows what the future will bring now

[Magnumcharger]

Maybe pasta incentives with a purchase?

[Ghoste]

I like pasta.

[BB1]

Tank U vury mouch.

The new MoPar

[73chgrSE]

Fiat has historically made some of the ugliest cars in the world.

[Ghoste]

Yes but they also recently accomplished a pretty successful business turnaround within a two year time frame.  Perhaps if they bring some of the ugly microcars to the US that Obama and Green Lefties (the modern answer to the Beatles' Blue Meanies) all so desperately want us to drive.

[moparstuart]

 I drive 60 miles each way to work everyday so I dont mind driving some small gas saver as a daily driver . But on the weekend its 

[PocketThunder]

Maybe pasta incentives with a purchase?

Robin i just spit my lunch onto my computer screen!    

I drive 60 miles each way to work everyday so I dont mind driving some small gas saver as a daily driver .

Damn 60 miles?  I drive 9 and i think its far enough.

[mopar0166]

if they come up with a decent commuter, id buy it but id have to wait a yr to see how they fair with american abuse. hahaa

[FlatbackFanatic]

Well, its better than another company from China buying more of the U.S.

[Tilar]

Well, its better than another company from China buying more of the U.S.

I gotta agree with that one. My brother-in-law just retired from GM, My sister still works there till next year when they shut down the Ontario Ohio stamping plant, and as of right now with the way it is looking I wouldnt buy a new car from them at all.  Ford Yes, Chrysler maybe, GM hell no.

[73chgrSE]

This just in.................. some Chinese corporaton just bought Fiat !   

Just kidding.

[Charger_Fan]

Well, its better than another company from China buying more of the U.S.

I gotta agree with that one.

Me too.

Welp, it's gonna be interesting to see what sort of things happen with Chrysler products now. On a side note, I just saw my first new Cramaro on the road this morning, during the hellish commute (40 miles ). The plastic front license plate bracket was broken on one side & looked like it would fall off at any minute.
I guess it looks better in person than in pics, but the Chally's still look much better IMO.

[Mike DC]

Care to elaborate, Tilar?

[Foreman72]

what do you guys think this'll mean for nos mopar parts and mopar licensed parts ect

[Tilar]

Care to elaborate, Tilar?

GM asked the employees and union to take pay cuts and they wouldn't even consider it. Now you find that the reason they didn't is because the union is to own a big percentage of the company. Plus from listening to my sister, the salaried management bitching and complaining because they are going to lose 50% of their retirement which will only be paying them 8k a month! /sarcasm off

I guess I'm just irritated at the way the government has come into the picture when it shouldn't have their nose in it, and the way these people complain even when their retirement pay is still twice what I'd consider good money.

I guess I knew all along this was going to happen. You can't have people making 35k a year buying cars made by people making 100k+ a year and expect to sustain it.

[dodgecharger-fan]

I guess it looks better in person than in pics,

I'd say the exact opposite. I thought it looked pretty good in pictures, but when I saw one out on the road, I didn't care for the look, at all.

[Silver R/T]

Maybe it's for the better? That's what American company gets for running business worth a s***. Dealers got what they deserved for ripping off customers for decades, providing bad customer service and practicing other bad business practices.

[elanmars]

I can't wait to see a Fiat R/T!! 

[charge-it]

Fix
It
Again
Tony

[TiMopar]

They got good taste!

[nh_mopar_fan]

You won't see any Fiat badged cars. They already know that their reputation sucks. Expect to see Fiats rebadged as Chrysler or Dodge.

You will see some Alfas though.

[Ghoste]

Their reputation sucks over here, obviously they must be doing alright somewhere in the world because they have enough cash to buy a failing American automaker.  If they send some little tiny microcar that the greens approve of and rebadge it as a Dodge and send minivans the other direction and rebadge them as Fiats, maybe all will work out in the end.
At least there isn't a lot of time and money being wasted pretending it's a merger this time around.

[Charger_Fan]

They got good taste!

At what...Yamaha racing apparel?

[TiMopar]

They got good taste!

At what...Yamaha racing apparel?

They sponsor Valentino Rossi, 5 x times and current Moto GP World champion, here you go....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentino_Rossi

[Ghoste]

If he ain't won Daytona twice I don't give a shit who he is. 

[Brock Samson]

 found this link over at www.allpar.com , well written I'd say... 
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/06/analyst-forecasts-new-chrysler-and-fiat.html

i'm reviewing fiat/CDJ stuff I'll post what seems plausable,..


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=6872538
current thinking seems to be something like this will be the next new Chrysler
baised on a shortened LX platform the 200 C. to replace the current stratus oops i mean Avenger and whatever that ugly mid sized FWD chrysler is called these days..
The word is plant space is assigned to produce it.

[dukeboy320]

Sad day for mopar

[Brock Samson]

the sad day for "MOPAR" was when the Corp. Managment sold out to Daimler 10 years ago. or did you miss that part?.. 

[PocketThunder]

the sad day for "MOPAR" was when the Corp. Managment sold out to Daimler 10 years ago. or did you miss that part?.. 

Wasnt the sad day for Mopar back in the mid 70's?   

[Ghoste]

At least they were still independent then.  I agree with Brock, after the sellout to Daimler it's been a slow spiral down.  There were some bright spots in there too but overall Daimler just never knew what to with Ma.

[Brock Samson]

 Well they sure as hell knew what to do with the $5 Billion they took from Chrysler - they shut down Plymouth, delayed all the upcoming MOPAR vehicles and substituted them with designs biased on five year old Mercedes hardpoints, parts and electrical systems and axed any execs that didn't agree,.. and brought out appox. 15 new Mercedes models.
One other problem i see from this-  no, sorry these management changes - cause this is the third change in ten years...
is, that every time a new management board gets behind the wheel in these freaking Chinese firedrills, they freeze all programs for review and then substitute their own programs in place of the preceding one,.. So DCX lost the design innovation lead that the Co. had and was famous for prior to model Yr. 00, then the three headed dog Cerberus group has delayed things at least another 6 Mos. though they mostly simply axed programs, and now this new Fiat coup will delay things God only knows how long, Those that were expecting the '99 concept to be introduced in '01

Charger and were disappointed in the '05


     
like me...


can lay the blame directly at the feet of the top Chrysler management circa 1999.
They didn't have to take the money and run,.. but that's what they did...

[Ghoste]

You left one management group out, the feds have certainly been sticking their noses in it too and that has had a very real impact on product.
When the Lutz Gang sold out and left town, it was allegedly because of the attempted coup by Kirkorian and Iaccoca.  Does anyone know what that dispute was all about?

[Brock Samson]

the overview is Kirk wanted to be the largest shareholder and brought on lido an ace in the hole kinda' thing,.. that's a simplistic view BTW:
The way Daimler treated Lido was a slap in the face by the way... 
The entire thing was a sordid and sorry affair more about individual egos then any love for the Corp. it's history or the fate of it's workers,. products or history... 

[Ghoste]

So there wasn't a specific direction that one faction wanted to take the company versus the other, it was really just a clash of ego?

[Brock Samson]

well,.. Kirk can certainly afford the lawyers to sue me for defamation, there's plenty on record about him to research should you care,.. to his credit he protested the Daimler takeover oh, excuse me, "merger of equals" but, who knows what direction that would've gone had he prevailed... hey!  I got to use prevailed in a sentence! 
maybe I'll git a chance to use loosened?.. 

[Brock Samson]

a neat though unfounded photoshop of the upcomming 200C by suzq044 from allpar


no hidden headlights are in the works...

[bull]

I can't wait to see a Fiat R/T!! 

Fix
It
Again
Right (this time)
Tony

FiaR/T or Fart for short?

[BB1]

Hey man check out my Fart. 

[dodgecharger-fan]

Aren't they hiring Lutz back now?

[Mike DC]

 
My loyalty to this modern "Mopar" is gone. 



I'll settle for trying to keep buying American stuff from GM & Ford whenever possible.