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Started by Daytona R/T SE, May 30, 2009, 12:13:52 AM

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Daytona R/T SE

I'm trying to figure out the front fender body lines on 1970 Chargers.

I've seen some of them fade to nothing several inches from the front edge of the fender, while others go all the way to the front.

I think they should go all the way up to the front edge of the fender, stopping at the fender/bumper rubber seal, like in the picture below....But I see so many of them that fade away further back....

Which is "Correct" :shruggy:



69bronzeT5

Is that a primer '68-'69 beside it?  :scope:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on May 30, 2009, 12:34:04 AM
Is that a primer '68-'69 beside it?  :scope:


Thanks a lot, Cody !

We can always count on you for the way-the-hell-out-there-where-the-f&*%-did-that-come-from thread hi-jack right out of the gate :eek2:

69bronzeT5

I notice things, what can I say :icon_smile_wink:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic


rrockchrger

I have a '70 project in primer and that line fades out toward the front of the fender.  Found this thread about it the other day, hope it helps...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,55329.0.html

bill440rt

The line definitely fades towards the front of the fender. My '70 has a pair of NOS fenders on it, the line does NOT go all the way to the front.
The fade is very similar to '68 - '69 fenders.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: bill440rt on May 30, 2009, 06:34:43 AM
The line definitely fades towards the front of the fender. My '70 has a pair of NOS fenders on it, the line does NOT go all the way to the front.
The fade is very similar to '68 - '69 fenders.




   :iagree:   

That is one of my biggest peaves!! Its obvious the line is made of mud when it goes way too far like that.  :2thumbs:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

69*F5*SE

Yep, the line fades. The car in the picture has some body filler sculpturing going on.

Daytona R/T SE

These parts were being sold as NOS on ebay a while back, the line clearly goes all the way to the front  :shruggy:




Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 30, 2009, 08:17:08 AM
These parts were being sold as NOS on ebay a while back, the line clearly goes all the way to the front  :shruggy:





Someone was being deceitful. That's not uncommon these days.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: 1hot68 on May 30, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 30, 2009, 08:17:08 AM
These parts were being sold as NOS on ebay a while back, the line clearly goes all the way to the front  :shruggy:





Someone was being deceitful. That's not uncommon these days.


hmmmmm :scratchchin:


Anybody got any factory photos from 1970 showing the fender line?


69*F5*SE

Here's Leon's unrestored 70 Charger and maybe the line does go farther than I thought.  The pic is a little fuzzy but, it appears that the bodyline doesn't fade as much as a 68 or 69 toward the front.   :shruggy:  Hard to tell.

Daytona R/T SE

I'm working on my Daytona clone, and as we all know '69 Daytonas used '70 Charger fenders, Here's a pic from back in the day that settles this as far as I'm concerned.

My body line will go all the way to the seal.



Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

BigBlockSam

QuoteMy body line will go all the way to the seal.

:yesnod: yep
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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Charger-Bodie

You can see on Leons Charger that it fades.... But the Daytona on the hauler is more pronounced,maybe Creative had to "doctor" the fronts to make the nose fit "better"....In any case, with your Daytona clone I think you made the right call. If it were a regular 70 charger R/T then I don't think so.  :scratchchin:


Either way the line is there, but not as sharp as it reaches the front of the fender.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

bill440rt

As ironic as this is, that orange R/T convert has my old fenders on it that originally came off my '70!  :yesnod:
The line was never that far forward.

Here's a current shot. The line does have a slight fade, forward of the side marker. It is not a crisp line all the way to the leading edge.

:Twocents:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Nacho-RT74

if you ask me, and not being an expert, I'm agree with that, line is allways pressent but not that sharp to the end. have we ever compaired where the 68/69 dissapears ? maybe at the same point the 70 fender ends ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

more less
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tan top

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 30, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
if you ask me, and not being an expert, I'm agree with that, line is allways pressent but not that sharp to the end. have we ever compaired where the 68/69 dissapears ? maybe at the same point the 70 fender ends ?

good point Nacho :yesnod:  just thought about that my self , as the 70s is shorter :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: tan top on May 30, 2009, 10:18:01 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 30, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
if you ask me, and not being an expert, I'm agree with that, line is allways pressent but not that sharp to the end. have we ever compaired where the 68/69 dissapears ? maybe at the same point the 70 fender ends ?

good point Nacho :yesnod:  just thought about that my self , as the 70s is shorter :scratchchin:

yes

and even on 68/69 is SLIIIIGHTLY present, so I bet 70s are more noticeable present although some faded from the initial presence
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Charger_Fan

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 30, 2009, 08:17:08 AM
These parts were being sold as NOS on ebay a while back, the line clearly goes all the way to the front  :shruggy:
Those parts look too clean to be NOS. You should e-mail that guy & ask for a shot of the backside of those fenders. THIS is what should be on the backside of the left one, for example. ;)




I just went out & rubbed my NOS fender...the front edge has no noticeable line & is merely curved to match the bumper curvature. Then going rearward, I can feel the slightest hint of a body line starting to form at about 1-1/2 to 2" back from the leading edge.

Hope that helps. Here's a shot I took last fall, that probably doesn't help in the slightest. :icon_smile_tongue:


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472 R/T SE

Mine doesn't go all the way forward.  When I put the badges on I was having a heck of time cause I was trying to line them up with a non existent line and they're still not right, at least the driver side.


r_biccum

Had a look at my 69, the line definately does not go all the way up, fades out roughly 2-3" back... hope that helps
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