SNIPING.....

[R2]

Does anyone use any sniping programs,,,,eg for Ebay 

[Johnny SixPack]

I've never tried them out, but I've had great luck with my own method.

First up, have three windows open.

One to refresh.

Two with bids.

I throw out a feeler bid about 15 secs out, and nail the last one with 3-5 secs left.

Of course your last bid is your max, so if you're out bid, you were gonna lose anyhow.

Having cable/dsl helps out too.  

And it keeps nervous bidders away.

I'm mean don'tcha just hate it when people get in a pissing match on the first couple days of a 7 day auction?

Well, unless you're the seller.

[472 R/T SE]

I've never tried them out, but I've had great luck with my own method.

First up, have three windows open.

One to refresh.

Two with bids.

I throw out a feeler bid about 15 secs out, and nail the last one with 3-5 secs left.

Of course your last bid is your max, so if you're out bid, you were gonna lose anyhow.

Having cable/dsl helps out too. 

And it keeps nervous bidders away.

I'm mean don'tcha just hate it when people get in a pissing match on the first couple days of a 7 day auction?

Well, unless you're the seller.

I do exactly the same except for opening the extra windows.   
I look for poorly worded ads too, that actually seems to help in picking up various stuff. 

[AKcharger]

You guys work too hard.
I just look at a part, figure what the max I'll pay for it is and Bid the max. I'll either beat you "snipers" or you'll pay too much (by my standards) for it...sounds simple to me 

[Spartan]

So you are the guys outbidding me for stuff, no wonder my car isn't finished .  Seriously though, there is a trick to it. My bidding was on a AM/FM radio.  I started bidding right away, by the last day is was so far over my head I got disgusted and and quit on it.  2nd was on a set of til lights.  It did not meet its reserve so since the guy was local I went to check them out and I was glad I did not win, they were junk.  That opened my eyes to the whole e-bay thing.  Now I am either really picky or know its something I can easily restore myself.  I will do the 2 window trick and dump one at the last few seconds.  Sometimes it works, sometimes the other guy has to earn it

[R2]

You guys work too hard.
I just look at a part, figure what the max I'll pay for it is and Bid the max. I'll either beat you "snipers" or you'll pay too much (by my standards) for it...sounds simple to me

do you do this ahead of time,,,or at the last seconds of the auction....

what do you guys mean by having 2 windows open at the same time....

[Johnny SixPack]

R2, here's what I'm talking about:

[Afflyer]

Oh yeah, there's a few snipe sights out there for sure.   Anyone who is willing to admit to using them here is risking pissing a few folks here off as they might have lost a bid or two due to a snipe.

[Recharger]

I like to use auctionstealer.com.  It's a sniping site that is completely free...well, they 'appreciate' donations, but then again so would I...  Works a lot like your method, 440, but takes a lot less effort.  Decide your bottom line price, enter it in, and check back afterwards to see if it held up.  No watching necessary, and imo makes ebay alot less addictive.  I wouldn't think sniping would piss off anyone here, would it?  It's all just business...

[472 R/T SE]

I have enuf other things to worry about than pissing someone off over an auction.  I count it as a small victory if I'm able to. 
Nothin' personal afflyer ;)l.

[Johnny SixPack]

Yeah.

Sometimes someone else is gonna want it more, be richer/faster, or spend entirely too much time checking out eBay for mislabelled/hidden stuff.

Every once and awhile you're that someone.  

[Chargerguy74]

You guys work too hard.
I just look at a part, figure what the max I'll pay for it is and Bid the max. I'll either beat you "snipers" or you'll pay too much (by my standards) for it...sounds simple to me  

Same here, I let the proxy bidding do the work for me. Too many times have I got caught up in a "pissing match" and over paid.

[bull]

If the item is worth $300 "accidentally" type in $3,000 as your max bid with 3 seconds remaining. The only way that might fail is if another bidder does the same but hey, it was an "accident" right? I just got caught up in the action, officer.

[Chargerguy74]

If the item is worth $300 "accidentally" type in $3,000 as your max bid with 3 seconds remaining. The only way that might fail is if another bidder does the same but hey, it was an "accident" right? I just got caught up in the action, officer.

oh that's greasy....lol

[nh_mopar_fan]

www.auctionsniper.com

You guys are really creating way more work than you have to.

[Old Moparz]

If the item is worth $300 "accidentally" type in $3,000 as your max bid with 3 seconds remaining. The only way that might fail is if another bidder does the same but hey, it was an "accident" right? I just got caught up in the action, officer.

Are you using sarcasm here? No offense chief, but this is probably why some folks have negative feedback. It just creates headaches for buyers & sellers & ebay won't care, they get their cut no matter what the outcome. If this is how you bid on something, then there's absolutely no right to complain if you feel you overpaid for something whether it's decent or junk. This way of bidding will also get you schilled so easy it's not funny. A seller & a friend will drive the price up & laugh later over a beer.

If there's something I want to bid on & know I'll be at the computer when the auction is ending, I'll wait & bid then. Usually when it's the last 10 minutes or so. If it ends at a strange hour I'll just put in the max I'll spend & see what happens. I don't get hung up on the "I must win the auction at all costs" attitude, you don't win anything, you buy things. Ebay auctions are not on line lottery tickets. There's been only 5 or 6 times in about 100 auctions that I've bid on, where I felt anxious the last few seconds about a bid. Only 2 or 3 times did I actually type in a higher amount & was ready to hit send, but held back. Once was for some grille trim on a Barracuda, & I watched as a couple of nimrods decided it was worth the price of a complete grille. 

[472 R/T SE]

I've had that happen with a few of my autions.  Someone with zero feedback will "accidentily" put too many zeroes in and bid just to see the reserve and then RETRACT their bid.  Ooops an accident my arse.

[Charger_Fan]

I'm mean don'tcha just hate it when people get in a pissing match on the first couple days of a 7 day auction?

Yes! That's quite rediculous. I just look at it as "well, there went that good deal".

Oh & often I'll do the multiple window thing too, if it's something I want badly.

[Telvis]

There use to be a program called Bidsniper that worked pretty well. It would connect to ebay at a time prior to the auction end  and do a last second bid for you. It worked really well until Ebay changed something in their program that keeps it from working. Now it appears only sites that bid for you can do the sniping. I am reluctant to give my account information to anyone. If I want something bad enough I will wait until the auction is about to end and make a last second bid manually. It's a pain having to stay tied to the computer but it's the smart way to go.

[Charger Aficionado]

Johnny, I do it JUST Like you do it...  wow...

[bull]

If the item is worth $300 "accidentally" type in $3,000 as your max bid with 3 seconds remaining. The only way that might fail is if another bidder does the same but hey, it was an "accident" right? I just got caught up in the action, officer.

Are you using sarcasm here? No offense chief, but this is probably why some folks have negative feedback. It just creates headaches for buyers & sellers & ebay won't care, they get their cut no matter what the outcome. If this is how you bid on something, then there's absolutely no right to complain if you feel you overpaid for something whether it's decent or junk. This way of bidding will also get you schilled so easy it's not funny. A seller & a friend will drive the price up & laugh later over a beer.

I'm not using sarcasm but I never said I used this method either. I just came up with the idea but consider it unethical and would never feel good about following through on it. Still, I don't know how a shill bidder can run the price up on you in the last three seconds unless their max bid is sky high.

How did you know I was a chief?

[Afflyer]

Nothin' personal afflyer ;)l.

Oh, none taken AllBlueRT.  None taken.  I was just saying that someone ELSE here might get ticked that's all.

Bradley

[Old Moparz]

How did you know I was a chief?

I didn't, but what tribe?   

I used to work with a guy that called everyone chief when he was trying to get their attention, I guess it just surfaced.

[GTX]

A whole lot of people really get ticked over sniping. I don't see why, it's all fair in the game of auctions and I've been beat with 1 second to go before. I just shrug it off and think what a lucky guy the other dude is but there usually will be another in the same price range sooner or later.
As a seller though if someone with zero feedback bids I cancel him. My auctions all state that people with neggies and zero have to contact me first. There are too damn many shill and deadbeat bidders out there. Anyone remember when it was almost unheard of to be a deadbeat? Ebay was still small enough that I knew many of the people selling in the catagorys I used and word spread about who was honest and who was deadbeat.
As a buyer I use the multiple window thing and I count on being willing to spend more than some other guy, that's the name of the game although I do my homework first and see what others have gone for recently.
One guy might think the part is worth $25.00 and any more is paying too much but it's rather subjective isn't it?
I've paid more than I wanted plenty of times but then I don't have parts falling in my lap or overflowing out my garage and I am trying to finish my car someday afterall. I need the part and I need it soon and for a decent price.

I just hate the guys who jack the shipping and/or 'handling' to make extra dough. I never make a cent beyond actual shipping costs.


By the way, I envy the guys in the East end of the country or the guys in California, the more densly populated areas of the country. There is always some other guy and some other town or some other boneyard to get your parts from. Try living out here in the West and being 500 miles from another major city. More guys trying to scrounge parts than there are cars. We are the ones who end up paying more than you other guys for parts just because there aren't any to be had around here anymore. Most guys around here guard their parts suppliers identities as tightly as they guard their daughters virginity.
 


Ebay motors supplied most of my car!!

1968 Ebay Charger!

[AKcharger]

Guys help me out here - tell me the difference between normal Ebay "Proxy bidding"  and these special "Snipe Sites" and "multi-window stuff"

With normal Proxy bidding, as I mentioned above, I put in say $60 for an exhaust manifold and just check back to see if I won...you can't snipe it because it will kick my bid higher and reject yours...until you exceed $60...then I don't care what happens

Is it just a matter that your "hoping" it will be cheap? If so that's fine but I'd get frustrated to lose a part I need just to save a few $$

So how are these methods superior to Proxy bidding???

Now people that bid $8,000 for a 4 speed console on accident and really hope to get it for .80 cents...yup, that would beat the proxy but I don't think the seller would be inclined to give you a good deal

[Wakko]

Multi window is simply an easier way for someone to organize their desktop while they're bidding. 

I use AuctionSentry.com and have for years.  I absolutely love it for two reasons.  1) I don't have to babysit the computer and wait till the auction gets close to ending (especially since I work nights, when alot of auctions end) and 2)I'll win auctions on people that might have extended their high bid had they known I was going to outbid them.   I don't think it's dirty at all and I don't understand people's frustration.

Let's say I want a Gizmo that's opening bid of 10 bucks.  You want it too and bid your max of 20 bucks.  If I'm willing to pay 22 bucks and put in my bid, you might say...hmmm...I'll go 23 and now I've lost the item.  If I snipe, you don't have time to try to outbid me.  If you've already bid higher than I'm willing to go then you win anyway.  Best 10 dollar program I ever bought.

[Charger_Fan]

Guys help me out here - tell me the difference between normal Ebay "Proxy bidding"   and these special "Snipe Sites" and "multi-window stuff"

The problem with proxy bidding is that it leaves too much of a window open for someone to bump up the price of the part. Say that the bid for the manifolds started at $20 & you decided the absolute most you'd want to pay is $60. If you put your proxy bid in say 4 days before the end, some other guy can come along & keep bumping the bid up very near your $60 ceiling.
If you wait to bid until say the last half hour, there's less of a chance for someone to bump it up...wouldn't it be nice to have those manifolds for something like $30, after you bumped another bidder out in the last few minutes of an auction?
If it's something I really want, I wait until the last 30 seconds or so & THEN enter my ceiling price. Quite often, I'll end up with the item for only a couple bucks more that the latest high bid.

I haven't tried a snipe site, mostly because I don't buy stuff that often.


Using 3 windows;
First of all, it won't work on dialup. 
#1 window is open so you can hit refresh to watch the remaining time as it draws nearer to the end.
#2 window is open with your ceiling price entered, poised just one click away from making your bid.
#3 window is open in case your ceiling bid was outbid & you want to make a "throw caution to the wind...damn the torpedos" bid that tugs on your conscience for the next two weeks.

[Charger_Fan]

By the way, I envy the guys in the East end of the country or the guys in California, the more densly populated areas of the country. There is always some other guy and some other town or some other boneyard to get your parts from. Try living out here in the West and being 500 miles from another major city. More guys trying to scrounge parts than there are cars. We are the ones who end up paying more than you other guys for parts just because there aren't any to be had around here anymore. Most guys around here guard their parts suppliers identities as tightly as they guard their daughters virginity.

Living in Utah is hell.

[Lowprofile]

Thats why I stay away from ebay.....It's not worth the trouble or aggravation to shop on there. I don't care how bad I need something. I'd rather buy a repo or spend the extra $$$$$ buying from someone NOT on ebay. Or , just go without.

Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.      Semper FI

[AKcharger]

I got ya Charger Fan...I can see where your coming from

To tell you guys the truth I've had very good luck here and at MOPARS posting and responding to posts for parts. I've got about everything for my '72 and out of the 10-15 non-ebay mail purchases I haven't been ripped off yet.
In fact that "hypothetical" manifold came in Thursday. The BB pax side HP manifolds on Ebay ALWAYS went for at least $80...usually around $80-85...I got one with heat riser for $75

[d72hemi]

By the way, I envy the guys in the East end of the country or the guys in California, the more densly populated areas of the country. There is always some other guy and some other town or some other boneyard to get your parts from. Try living out here in the West and being 500 miles from another major city. More guys trying to scrounge parts than there are cars. We are the ones who end up paying more than you other guys for parts just because there aren't any to be had around here anymore. Most guys around here guard their parts suppliers identities as tightly as they guard their daughters virginity.

Living in Utah is hell.

Utah is not that bad (for parts that is  ) If you want me to tell you of the junkyards that I know of e-mail me (it is hard for me to get onto this site from where I am at). I see more 2nd gen and e-body stuff than I do for my 72. ian.randall@blab.centaf.af.mil

[451-74Charger]

I use Bidsnipe, havent lost an auction yet.....
Leave it set to a 2 second refresh, and BAM, winning bidder every time. !!!
better still, its FREE