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SUPERBIRD FOUND WITH 70 ROAD RUNNER FRONT END

Started by nascarxx29, May 24, 2009, 08:00:20 AM

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nascarxx29

This is the FY1 yellow benchseat project superbird thats currently on ebayBack sometime in the 80-s .It was bugging me as I recalled seeing that same vin somewhere else besides on ebay .This also provides a timeline as back in the day .I assume the car had a front nose damage commonly occured back in the day with no bumper .And was cheaper to change the nose clip.Back in the day I went to look at a similar color superbird with satellite front end.And Im pretty sure its the same car .Going to see if I can contact 2 known earliest owners to trackdown paperwork perhaps

Title: 1970 Plymouth Road Runner Superbird         
 
Mileage: 49,508 miles         
 
Location: Spring, Tx         
 

Vehicle Information
VIN: RM23UOA163456


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,57448.0.html


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

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nascarxx29

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Moparts for Dessert 4 Me


Reged: Nov 23 2004
Loc: Va. Beach, Va   Re: FOUND SUPERBIRD WITH 70 ROAD RUNNER FRONT END [Re: WINGCARS_6970]
      #5249691 - Sun May 24 2009 05:35 PM   Edit     Reply     Quote     Quick Reply   



We did that to one back in 1977. A flight instructor at the airport owned it and went airborne over some railroad track and smashed up the nose bad. Actually the front clip was from a 70 Belvedere and the hood and grill from a wrecked RR. It was B7 blue 440 4 bbl car. Bought new in Norfolk, Va.

Always wondered what happened to it.

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"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines." - Enzo Ferrari

69 383 Superbee
77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440
70 Coronet 440...WH21N E63 D13 
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

4speeds4me

Don't overlook the fact that many dealers "converted" Superbirds to roadrunners to get them off the lots!  They weren't a really popular sales item.  It was easier and cheaper for the dealer to slap a frontend on than it was to keep the sales flop on the lot...

FJ5WING

Quote from: 4speeds4me on May 25, 2009, 12:44:36 AM
Don't overlook the fact that many dealers "converted" Superbirds to roadrunners to get them off the lots!  They weren't a really popular sales item.  It was easier and cheaper for the dealer to slap a frontend on than it was to keep the sales flop on the lot...

I think the number of conversions is much-much lower than youve been led to believe.

Ive only seen one conversion.
wingless now, but still around.

moparstuart

judson's bird that curt lawson in minnesota finished restoring last year had a 70 satelite front end on it for years after being wrecked .
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

nascarxx29

Nothing surprises me what people did or tryed on these cars
 
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

4speeds4me

Quote from: FJ5WING on May 25, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: 4speeds4me on May 25, 2009, 12:44:36 AM
Don't overlook the fact that many dealers "converted" Superbirds to roadrunners to get them off the lots!  They weren't a really popular sales item.  It was easier and cheaper for the dealer to slap a frontend on than it was to keep the sales flop on the lot...

I think the number of conversions is much-much lower than youve been led to believe.

Ive only seen one conversion.

I can't argue that.  I've seen 2 on my side of the border.

lawman

Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

nascarxx29

I dont make assumptions or wonder about a car because the guy sells reproduction parts for the same type car.As Ive been around these car since I was 13.I validate a car by experience knowing where and what to look for.If a particular car has these merits such as#matching driveline door vin 1/4 vin and its own unique superbird vin .Along with the registrys that can back up a cars history and known prior wingcar ownership.Then I have no reservations.Fender tag / buildsheet provided options and a B30 and 976-977 job number.And the way a certain car was built and optioned :Twocents:
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hotrod98

Quote from: lawman on May 26, 2009, 10:53:14 PM
Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

Ted has owned more than one original wingcar. Does that make you wonder as well?
Where do you think he got the original parts to make the molds for his repro parts?
I've owned several of his repro parts and they were pretty darn nice. Kind of looked like they were copies of original parts and not copies of copies like some of the other guys sell.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

nascarxx29

Ted is up to around having 5 real superbirds including 2 Hemi cars .2 superbirds he got off of me 1 was a 19K mile 6 pack car that donated its parts for molds after it was considerd totaled out .And he bought his 440 daytona in 1973 .And I also got a replica daytona wingcar off him .I was able to tell which car was which :icon_smile_big:.


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Quote from: hotrod98 on May 27, 2009, 01:14:03 AM
Quote from: lawman on May 26, 2009, 10:53:14 PM
Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

Ted has owned more than one original wingcar. Does that make you wonder as well?
Where do you think he got the original parts to make the molds for his repro parts?
I've owned several of his repro parts and they were pretty darn nice. Kind of looked like they were copies of original parts and not copies of copies like some of the other guys sell.

No copy of copies it was my car as the superbird donor.For the 69 daytona he had a NOS nose and his 1 st daytona to cast from
. I had 19K mile 440 6 pack superbird rear ended by a truck .I got the car back for salvage value $500.00.and had to part it out to get money buy another car .Ted Janak bought most of this car to cast his parts from
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Troy

Quote from: lawman on May 26, 2009, 10:53:14 PM
Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder
If you have something to say then spit it out (rather than repeating yourself around the internet).  :ahum:

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

lucaslaw

No stone throwin here, just seemed odd, thanks for clearing it up.  I've been researching this car for awhile trying to decide whether or not to pull the trigger on her.  50-60k is a LOT of $$$, even if it is a good deal.  Its a lot more if it's a bad one.

If you have a problem with my post, kick me off the forum.

hotrod98

Are "Lucaslaw" and "Lawman" one and the same?  I'm confused a little.  :shruggy:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Ghoste

I think so.  Now I wonder if it's a Boston lawyer?

hotrod98



Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

hemi68charger

Why two profiles?............... Oh well. I'm hoping to get over to Ted's today to look at the 'Bird....

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

nascarxx29

Good deal Troy :2thumbs: I recall him having from when I knew in Houston in the 80-s a 426 Hemi and a 69 daytona clone and so on .So enjoy the road trip and see whats there.Hope your taking Dana say hi to Ted
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

lucaslaw

Didn't realize the sites were linked, tried to take one down so as not to appear  :coolgleamA: but couldn't

hotrod98

I didn't have a problem with it if that's what you were thinking. It just sounded like one guy was answering for another. Sort of like when my wife answers for me which usually includes the word no or no preceded by an expletive.  ;D


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

jonw29

I was surfing over on the WWW.CARSINBARNS.COM site and noticed a car very similar.I tried to link the picture to this site and it said "protected by cars in barns".If you go to the site then to wing cars and it is in the lower rh corner of the page.It also has other photos.Could it be the same car?

hemi68charger

Quote from: nascarxx29 on May 28, 2009, 07:00:40 AM
Good deal Troy :2thumbs: I recall him having from when I knew in Houston in the 80-s a 426 Hemi and a 69 daytona clone and so on .So enjoy the road trip and see whats there.Hope your taking Dana say hi to Ted

Couldn't make it over there today, called and left message, but no return call....... Soooooooo, it'll be another day.. Maybe he sold the 'Bird.......

I'll definitely head over there some time.. Maybe Sunday......

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

hotrod98

Troy, we're rooting for you. I hope he hasn't sold it.
I hope you buy the car, keep it a few years and then sell it to me later when I have the money to buy it. ::)


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams