SUPERBIRD FOUND WITH 70 ROAD RUNNER FRONT END

[nascarxx29]

This is the FY1 yellow benchseat project superbird thats currently on ebayBack sometime in the 80-s .It was bugging me as I recalled seeing that same vin somewhere else besides on ebay .This also provides a timeline as back in the day .I assume the car had a front nose damage commonly occured back in the day with no bumper .And was cheaper to change the nose clip.Back in the day I went to look at a similar color superbird with satellite front end.And Im pretty sure its the same car .Going to see if I can contact 2 known earliest owners to trackdown paperwork perhaps

Title: 1970 Plymouth Road Runner Superbird         
 
Mileage: 49,508 miles         
 
Location: Spring, Tx         
 

Vehicle Information
VIN: RM23UOA163456


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,57448.0.html

[tan top]

good find    intresting 

[nascarxx29]

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Reged: Nov 23 2004
Loc: Va. Beach, Va   Re: FOUND SUPERBIRD WITH 70 ROAD RUNNER FRONT END [Re: WINGCARS_6970]
      #5249691 - Sun May 24 2009 05:35 PM   Edit     Reply     Quote     Quick Reply   



We did that to one back in 1977. A flight instructor at the airport owned it and went airborne over some railroad track and smashed up the nose bad. Actually the front clip was from a 70 Belvedere and the hood and grill from a wrecked RR. It was B7 blue 440 4 bbl car. Bought new in Norfolk, Va.

Always wondered what happened to it.

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"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines." - Enzo Ferrari

69 383 Superbee
77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440
70 Coronet 440...WH21N E63 D13 

[4speeds4me]

Don't overlook the fact that many dealers "converted" Superbirds to roadrunners to get them off the lots!  They weren't a really popular sales item.  It was easier and cheaper for the dealer to slap a frontend on than it was to keep the sales flop on the lot...

[FJ5WING]

Don't overlook the fact that many dealers "converted" Superbirds to roadrunners to get them off the lots!  They weren't a really popular sales item.  It was easier and cheaper for the dealer to slap a frontend on than it was to keep the sales flop on the lot...

I think the number of conversions is much-much lower than youve been led to believe.

Ive only seen one conversion.

[moparstuart]

judson's bird that curt lawson in minnesota finished restoring last year had a 70 satelite front end on it for years after being wrecked .

[nascarxx29]

Nothing surprises me what people did or tryed on these cars
 

[4speeds4me]

Don't overlook the fact that many dealers "converted" Superbirds to roadrunners to get them off the lots!  They weren't a really popular sales item.  It was easier and cheaper for the dealer to slap a frontend on than it was to keep the sales flop on the lot...

I think the number of conversions is much-much lower than youve been led to believe.

Ive only seen one conversion.

I can't argue that.  I've seen 2 on my side of the border.

[lawman]

Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

[nascarxx29]

I dont make assumptions or wonder about a car because the guy sells reproduction parts for the same type car.As Ive been around these car since I was 13.I validate a car by experience knowing where and what to look for.If a particular car has these merits such as#matching driveline door vin 1/4 vin and its own unique superbird vin .Along with the registrys that can back up a cars history and known prior wingcar ownership.Then I have no reservations.Fender tag / buildsheet provided options and a B30 and 976-977 job number.And the way a certain car was built and optioned

[hotrod98]

Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

Ted has owned more than one original wingcar. Does that make you wonder as well?
Where do you think he got the original parts to make the molds for his repro parts?
I've owned several of his repro parts and they were pretty darn nice. Kind of looked like they were copies of original parts and not copies of copies like some of the other guys sell.

[nascarxx29]

Ted is up to around having 5 real superbirds including 2 Hemi cars .2 superbirds he got off of me 1 was a 19K mile 6 pack car that donated its parts for molds after it was considerd totaled out .And he bought his 440 daytona in 1973 .And I also got a replica daytona wingcar off him .I was able to tell which car was which .

[nascarxx29]

Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

Ted has owned more than one original wingcar. Does that make you wonder as well?
Where do you think he got the original parts to make the molds for his repro parts?
I've owned several of his repro parts and they were pretty darn nice. Kind of looked like they were copies of original parts and not copies of copies like some of the other guys sell.

No copy of copies it was my car as the superbird donor.For the 69 daytona he had a NOS nose and his 1 st daytona to cast from
. I had 19K mile 440 6 pack superbird rear ended by a truck .I got the car back for salvage value $500.00.and had to part it out to get money buy another car .Ted Janak bought most of this car to cast his parts from

[Troy]

Seller owns wingedwarriorbodyparts dot com, makes me wonder

If you have something to say then spit it out (rather than repeating yourself around the internet). 

Troy

[lucaslaw]

No stone throwin here, just seemed odd, thanks for clearing it up.  I've been researching this car for awhile trying to decide whether or not to pull the trigger on her.  50-60k is a LOT of $$$, even if it is a good deal.  Its a lot more if it's a bad one.

If you have a problem with my post, kick me off the forum.

[hotrod98]

Are "Lucaslaw" and "Lawman" one and the same?  I'm confused a little. 

[Ghoste]

I think so.  Now I wonder if it's a Boston lawyer?

[hotrod98]

 

[hemi68charger]

Why two profiles?............... Oh well. I'm hoping to get over to Ted's today to look at the 'Bird....

Troy

[nascarxx29]

Good deal Troy I recall him having from when I knew in Houston in the 80-s a 426 Hemi and a 69 daytona clone and so on .So enjoy the road trip and see whats there.Hope your taking Dana say hi to Ted

[lucaslaw]

Didn't realize the sites were linked, tried to take one down so as not to appear  but couldn't

[hotrod98]

I didn't have a problem with it if that's what you were thinking. It just sounded like one guy was answering for another. Sort of like when my wife answers for me which usually includes the word no or no preceded by an expletive. 

[jonw29]

I was surfing over on the WWW.CARSINBARNS.COM site and noticed a car very similar.I tried to link the picture to this site and it said "protected by cars in barns".If you go to the site then to wing cars and it is in the lower rh corner of the page.It also has other photos.Could it be the same car?

[hemi68charger]

Good deal Troy I recall him having from when I knew in Houston in the 80-s a 426 Hemi and a 69 daytona clone and so on .So enjoy the road trip and see whats there.Hope your taking Dana say hi to Ted

Couldn't make it over there today, called and left message, but no return call....... Soooooooo, it'll be another day.. Maybe he sold the 'Bird.......

I'll definitely head over there some time.. Maybe Sunday......

Troy

[hotrod98]

Troy, we're rooting for you. I hope he hasn't sold it.
I hope you buy the car, keep it a few years and then sell it to me later when I have the money to buy it.

[nascarxx29]

Hope you get over there to Teds and have a look and see the cars 

[hemi68charger]

Troy, we're rooting for you. I hope he hasn't sold it.
I hope you buy the car, keep it a few years and then sell it to me later when I have the money to buy it.

Oh no,,
I'm not looking at it for me... I'm going there to double check the car from a third person point of view in case anyone on this board or moparts is interested. I'm also going to meet him. Live less than 10 to 15 miles from him for over a decade now and have never met him and I'm the Prez of the Mopar Club here.. tisk tisk on me...    Granted,,,,, he doesn't get out to shows much...

Troy

[nascarxx29]

The only show I recall Ted being in was with his real daytona and the yellow clone and my yellow superbird .Was in the 80- Houston Autorama .I dont think he was in the Houston clubs .I was in a early Houston mopar club with Brain Grebinger .Only wingcars aside from me was  Ed Levacks as I recall.

[nascarxx29]

I was surfing over on the WWW.CARSINBARNS.COM site and noticed a car very similar.I tried to link the picture to this site and it said "protected by cars in barns".If you go to the site then to wing cars and it is in the lower rh corner of the page.It also has other photos.Could it be the same car?

http://www.carsinbarns.com/Superbirds%20&%20Daytonas/index.htm

The car on the trailer in the RH corner is a 4 speed 6 pack .Im not sure if I sent that. I posted several wingcars my own and found cars on this site

[nascarxx29]

Why two profiles?............... Oh well. I'm hoping to get over to Ted's today to look at the 'Bird....

Troy

I wondered why 2 also

[wingcars6970]

Yeah me to

[hotrod98]

Troy, we're rooting for you. I hope he hasn't sold it.
I hope you buy the car, keep it a few years and then sell it to me later when I have the money to buy it.

Oh no,,
I'm not looking at it for me... I'm going there to double check the car from a third person point of view in case anyone on this board or moparts is interested. I'm also going to meet him. Live less than 10 to 15 miles from him for over a decade now and have never met him and I'm the Prez of the Mopar Club here.. tisk tisk on me...    Granted,,,,, he doesn't get out to shows much...

Troy

It was a natural assumption that maybe since the Daytona hunt wasn't going as planned that you just might have been inclined to look at a Superbird instead. I love the Daytonas, but with the big difference in price, I'm definitely leaning towards a bird myself. I like both cars equally well.
I would be interested in Ted's car, but we're still about a year away from buying a wingcar.

[lucaslaw]

You can some see it in Dallas, I bought it this weekend.  Ted's a stand up guy.  Anyone have any more info on this car? I'm trying to get further history on it, btw, she runs great.

LL 

[nascarxx29]

Congrats I will dig up what I can find .The earliest owner shows in 79

[lucaslaw]

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

LL

[Allan]

This is the FY1 yellow benchseat project superbird thats currently on ebayBack sometime in the 80-s .It was bugging me as I recalled seeing that same vin somewhere else besides on ebay .This also provides a timeline as back in the day .I assume the car had a front nose damage commonly occured back in the day with no bumper .And was cheaper to change the nose clip.Back in the day I went to look at a similar color superbird with satellite front end.And Im pretty sure its the same car .Going to see if I can contact 2 known earliest owners to trackdown paperwork perhaps

Title: 1970 Plymouth Road Runner Superbird        
 
Mileage: 49,508 miles        
 
Location: Spring, Tx        
   
VIN: RM23UOA163456


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My cousin bought one in the eighties with a regular RR nose. It was an orange 440, auto, it had the wing and right back window and the front windshield trim. the guy said he bought it that way.

[Mytur Binsdirti]