SIX BBL Superbird & a lot of other Mopars lost in fire...

[xs29j8Bullitt]

DAMN!!!

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5212355&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD

[bk72]

 

[69_500]

Ouchy and a 69 RT/SE sunroof car triple black to boot. man that would have been a nice car once completed.

[tan top]

   sad  .... wonder how hot they got .... 
 

[mopar_nut_440_6]

That is really crappy! 

As this is the second thread, in as many days, does anybody have any recommendations about how we can insure our cars while we are restoring them? None of my cars are currently insured and this scares the crap out of me!! I live in BC Canada so our insurance company may not be very easy to deal with.

[69bronzeT5]

That and then the town got the damn walls pushed in on the cars What a shame James, I'll look into that. I know ICBC has insurance for people who are storing cars like we are. I'll ask about it when I get insurance for the Duster next month. I plan on getting storing insurance for the Charger since it'll be outside.

[talkiemopar]

O.k. Stuart - I can predict your reaction to this comment:

Rick has the bronze charger 500 insured with American Collectors Insurance while it's being  :smilielol:RESTORED!   You have to send them pictures and I believe you can increase the amount of insurance as it's being restored.  Right now it has stated value 'as is'.  Of course you can't drive it. 

Madam Secretary here

[69_500]

Hey you skipped right over what  I was going to say about your R6 500.

I'll save ya the insurance money and just store it up here for you for free.

[bk72]

    

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Ouchy and a 69 RT/SE sunroof car triple black to boot. man that would have been a nice car once completed.

So sad.....

[69bronzeT5]

Ouchy and a 69 RT/SE sunroof car triple black to boot. man that would have been a nice car once completed.

So sad.....

Do you have the mentioned car registered? Can't be too many '69 R/T SE's that are triple black. Especially with a sunroof.

[moparstuart]

O.k. Stuart - I can predict your reaction to this comment:

Rick has the bronze charger 500 insured with American Collectors Insurance while it's being  :smilielol:RESTORED!   You have to send them pictures and I believe you can increase the amount of insurance as it's being restored.  Right now it has stated value 'as is'.  Of course you can't drive it. 

Madam Secretary here

  restored ?

[hemi68charger]

 

[nascarxx29]

Heard about it on moparts also .Some guy name French out of Kentucky.

[hemigeno]

Heard about it on moparts also .Some guy name French out of Kentucky.

If that's who it is, I'd be pretty certain he's a member here.  Used to own the surviving Big Willie Daytona.

I am Gary French, the owner of Big Willies last existing Daytona, When I bought the car from Big Willie and Tomiko, Willie told me the car had never been raced, but the floor above the pinion snubber area has been BLOWN OUT and the X brace broken from the package tray, then rewelded and braced with a piece of 1/4 inch 2 inch wide bar stock, welded to the floor, I know as well as anyone who has had a high horsepower Mopar, that just doesn't happen with a basicly stock 440 and an automatic with a stock converter, I always figured Willie did the old switcharoo and installed one of the Kieth Black Built Hemis and clutchflite transmissions, the floor tells a story along with the fact the bolts that hold the brake pedal assembly in have some rounded edges and the plug for the clutch linkage has been removed and has witness marks of something rubbing in and out of it, then my thoughts were confirmed this weekend while I had the car at the Hot Rod Reunion, areal nice fellow told me he was in California from 1974 to 1979 and can remember my car runnning at Big Willies track from mid 74 to 78, he said it had a Pro Stock Style HEMI and a Clutchflite and was one of the fastest Street Style cars at the track, I asked him if he was positive about the years and he WAS POSITIVE, now let me add a couple more details The Queen Daytona was crashed in 1973, the King Daytona was acid dipped too much in late 1971  early 1972, Big willie told me Kieth BLack had freshened my 440 and put it back in my car around 1979 and it was parked after that, around this same time The Police Daytona ( 1966 Barracuda with Wing and NOSE) was built as thier all out race car ....

Was this car raced ?   I think so...

Does the car have the hood from the car in Two Lane Blacktop ?  Yes

Is it the King or Queen Daytona ? No,  it was called   Duke and Dutchess Daytona

Did Big Willie Run 200s or Torq Thrust ?  He used Magnesium Torq Thrust the ONLY time the car had 200s was for the photo shoot for American Racing

Is my car the car in Two Lane or The American Racing Wheel ad ?   NO, but I wish it was

Quote taken from this long thread posted back in 2006:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,14491.0.html

[Old Moparz]

That is really crappy! 

As this is the second thread, in as many days, does anybody have any recommendations about how we can insure our cars while we are restoring them? None of my cars are currently insured and this scares the crap out of me!! I live in BC Canada so our insurance company may not be very easy to deal with.

I know quite a few people who have an old car that's not insured. The reasons vary, like it's not being driven, it doesn't run, it's disassembled, it's being restored, etc. In most cases, I have no idea why someone would own something they paid thousands for, & NOT insure it. It's not expensive to get coverage, even if it's just to cover what you have into it so you don't get screwed if something does happen.

I'll do my infomercial now. 

I've had the same company since 1989, Condon & Skelly, & started out with just one car, my Satellite convertible on the policy for $55 per year for $2500 value. That price went down to $45 when the car turned 25 years old. I added more over the years, & adjusted the value of each one as the market changed. Right now I have 6 cars on the policy ranging in value from $2500 for the rough Coronet convertible project, up to $18,000 for my Road Runner.

The premium for all 6 cars for one year, with full coverage that includes liability, comprehensive, collision, fire, theft, vandalism, glass, spare parts, & some more, is $450. That's cheaper than one rust free fender at a swap meet. They have to be in a locked garage, each driven less than 2500 miles each year, & you must have a daily driver that they want the VIN of as proof. It doesn't matter if it's a finished car, a project, disassembled, or whatever stage it's in, all they need to know is that you are restoring it & that you supply photos of it.

Two people I know have a few pretty rare cars & have no coverage whatsoever. One is a '69 Super Bee that's an original 440-6V car, another is a '69 Charger R/T-S/E, & the last one is a rust free, almost done, '65 Satellite with a 440.

Dumbasses. 

[69charger2002]

Ouchy and a 69 RT/SE sunroof car triple black to boot. man that would have been a nice car once completed.

So sad.....

Do you have the mentioned car registered? Can't be too many '69 R/T SE's that are triple black. Especially with a sunroof.

i wonder if this is the katrina black 69 R/T SE sunroof car out of new orleans. it sold in early 2006 with it's #'s matching block, no sunroof panel, it was an executive loaded out car, i'm pretty sure i got chris the info. te car then went to michigan, was on ebay 2-3 times, and sold to someone either around KY or MO. i can't remember where. if that was the same car, what a shame for that poor car to survive 35 years, get flooded in a hurricane and eventually die of a fire. that would be just awful
trav

[Charger_Fan]

Man, that sucks horrendously! I couldn't even imagine.

[nascarxx29]

I was thinking to Gary French KTFO racing who had the Big Willie daytona.But the guys name wasnt Gary

[nascarxx29]

Not sure if this is it
Jefferson County coroner's office is seeking next of kin for Onyx Green, 85, of 1492 S. Shelby St., apartment 2. He died of natural causes April 19. Anyone with information can call Deputy Coroner Larry Carroll, 574-6262.



20 vehicles destroyed in Dixie garage fire
Fire destroyed a garage Wednesday night at a used car lot in the 12000 block of Dixie Highway.

There were no reports of injuries, said Pleasure Ridge Park Fire Chief Vincent Smith. He said firefighters determined no one was in the garage.

The multi-bay garage, located on the property of Marty's Auto Mart, contained about 20 vehicles. Smith said the garage and all the vehicles were destroyed.

The Louisville Fire & Rescue Arson squad was called to the scene, which is standard, Smith said, and the cause is still under investigation. It took firefighters about 20 minutes to get control of the blaze, which was reported about 10:15 p.m.

[tan top]

Ouchy and a 69 RT/SE sunroof car triple black to boot. man that would have been a nice car once completed.

So sad.....

Do you have the mentioned car registered? Can't be too many '69 R/T SE's that are triple black. Especially with a sunroof.

was thinking that also Cody    could be that one what was in a flood  on ebay a while ago 

[472 R/T SE]

If it's indeed called Marty's there's reports of an arson investigation.

http://www.wlky.com/news/19257884/detail.html

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Ouchy and a 69 RT/SE sunroof car triple black to boot. man that would have been a nice car once completed.

So sad.....

Do you have the mentioned car registered? Can't be too many '69 R/T SE's that are triple black. Especially with a sunroof.

was thinking that also Cody    could be that one what was in a flood  on ebay a while ago 

I have 2 registered & one was an ebay ad from Lexington, KY

[69bronzeT5]

I'm betting that one right there is it. Taking into consideration somebody said all the cars were not restored.

[472 R/T SE]

Follow up on it.  It was arson.

http://moparbreakingnews.blogspot.com/

[tan top]

arson    .....there is some nasty people in this world    why !!!!

[62 Max]

Follow up on it.  It was arson.

http://moparbreakingnews.blogspot.com/

And if you read all the insurance comments on the moparts thread about customer cars and then read read the above,none were customer cars.His own and associates.If no insurance,I may be blunt,but shame on them.

[C_stripes]

Want to see pics?

You will cry.

Open at your own risk!!!!

Consider yourself warned.

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=68059

[moparstuart]

  very sad

[tan top]

     those are dead ..damn that was a hot fire  all that rare iron gone for good   

[Aero426]

I read the MCG article last night.    How is it possible you can have that many collector cars, and not have some insurance to protect them?    You can always sell some of the cars that aren't that important to you and use the proceeds to cover the insurance bills for some time to come.   I HATE paying insurance, but it's part of the deal when you take care of your cars.    To have a collection like that and not have it properly insured is crazy. 

[nascarxx29]

I remember something similar as to no insurance and alot of cars got burnt to a crisp.This place in the 80-90-s in N.J. sold muscle cars and did restos.Alot of rare local area cars .We there for work or for sale.The owners of the cars didnt carry insurance on the cars that were on this place premises for sale or for resto.Im not sure if they thought there cars were automatically covered.After a fire broke out at 3 AM .And everything was destroyed.They found out the hardway that it was up to them to have retained whatever necessary insurance on their cars themselves

[superbirdtom]

I would have not crunched them up. i would have saved them all and put the hulks up for sale with the titles. someone would have bought them.

[pettybird]

we have storage insurance on my mom's '73 Porsche 914.  it hasn't been driven in three years now. 

State Farm charges us $7.50 a half for fire and theft.  When we'd put the 'birds up for the winter they'd charge us a little over $15 each per half. 

I'm pretty sure I could come up with $600/yr to protect ALL of those cars per year! 



where are the "before" pictures, by the way?  were these all nice or what?

[69bronzeT5]

Oh my god..........................

[chargergirl]

Anything from Katrina if it wasn't stripped immediately and re-coated was already turning in to a rust bucket. Lots of cars were for sale out of that area cheap. Had a guy here trying to sell, for top dollar, all his cars that were flooded. He never touched them after they were flooded. They even had grass growing out of them and you could actually sit and watch them rust...awful. This was the case on one of those cars it seems. If they were the owners cars they probably will be insured through the general insurance...hmm.

[cammer427]

This is horrible. The loss of any classic vehicle makes my heart sink, but 28 at once is just too much. Now there's 28 more cars gone from our hobby for good. What a damned shame. Sprinklers, people, SPRINKLERS!

[694spdRT]

Pardon my crudity, but " The loss of any classic vehicle makes my heart sink, but 28 at once is just too much. Now there's 28 more cars gone from our hobby for good. What a damned shame. Sprinklers, people, SPRINKLERS!

If they can't afford insurance they definately can't afford a sprinkler system.

[cammer427]

Pardon my crudity, but " The loss of any classic vehicle makes my heart sink, but 28 at once is just too much. Now there's 28 more cars gone from our hobby for good. What a damned shame. Sprinklers, people, SPRINKLERS!

If they can't afford insurance they definately can't afford a sprinkler system.

It could very well be. Or they simply chose not to cover their very large collection with insurance. Surely the three of them could have afforded it, at least on a majority of the cars. The sort of cars that were present in this collection show that they were not owned by someone living in a trailer park, and look at the size of the building. Sure a sprinkler system would be expensive, especially for a building this big - but I'm sure it had nothing to do with lack of money, but rather they were too arrogant in the belief that a fire would never happen.

[mauve66]

i don't know if it was mentioned earlier but anyone that has their car in the garage WITHOUT CAR INSURANCE on it, your homeowners policy DOESN'T COVER IT, keep the car insurance on it all the time

[694spdRT]

Pardon my crudity, but " The loss of any classic vehicle makes my heart sink, but 28 at once is just too much. Now there's 28 more cars gone from our hobby for good. What a damned shame. Sprinklers, people, SPRINKLERS!

If they can't afford insurance they definately can't afford a sprinkler system.

It could very well be. Or they simply chose not to cover their very large collection with insurance. Surely the three of them could have afforded it, at least on a majority of the cars. The sort of cars that were present in this collection show that they were not owned by someone living in a trailer park, and look at the size of the building. Sure a sprinkler system would be expensive, especially for a building this big - but I'm sure it had nothing to do with lack of money, but rather they were too arrogant in the belief that a fire would never happen.

I agree that the cars should have been insured no matter what. Hindsight is 20/20 for those guys right now. The fire supression sprinkler systems are a very costly deal which involves a dedicated municipal water source and then it has to be monitored/repaired on a quarterly basis.(at least in my state)

[451-74Charger]

Pardon my ignorance here, but
My Insurance rep told me that to insure the car, it had to be titled and registered.
Well, with some of our "projects" its not possible to do that. so how do we get them insured until they roll on the open road?

[Troy]

Pardon my ignorance here, but
My Insurance rep told me that to insure the car, it had to be titled and registered.
Well, with some of our "projects" its not possible to do that. so how do we get them insured until they roll on the open road?

You can get "fire and theft" insurance on a car that isn't registered. For our cars, most of the classic car insurers offer a "project car" policy to cover the vehicle during restoration.

Troy

[451-74Charger]

Thanks Troy, you noticed i did say I was ignorant

[mauve66]

and some states will let you register a non-roadworthy car for insurance reasons

[unrulyprocuda]

I met Mike French jr  and his father several years ago at the mopar nats super nice people what a tragic set of events someone needs to be hung up by thier gnuts   he owned a black 440 daytona and big willies daytona he told me at the time that big willies car was not for sale and that someone was trying to reunite big willie and his daytona so that he could reorganize a new race team for the drag strip does any one know where big willies daytona went possibly private collection or museum

[pettybird]

Pardon my ignorance here, but
My Insurance rep told me that to insure the car, it had to be titled and registered.
Well, with some of our "projects" its not possible to do that. so how do we get them insured until they roll on the open road?

it's not difficult to register a car here in OH, and it's nearly free.  historical vehicle plates are $27.50 and are good until the random date of June 30, 2050.  we can even run the model year specific plates for free.  it almost makes up for the snow 

[cammer427]

I met Mike French jr  and his father several years ago at the mopar nats super nice people what a tragic set of events someone needs to be hung up by thier gnuts  he owned a black 440 daytona and big willies daytona he told me at the time that big willies car was not for sale and that someone was trying to reunite big willie and his daytona so that he could reorganize a new race team for the drag strip does any one know where big willies daytona went possibly private collection or museum

That was Big Willie's third, and last, '69 Daytona which he nicknamed the "Duke and Duchess Daytona". He owned it until around '02 when a guy named Gary French bought it (not Mike ).  Is Mike the father, rather?

The car...