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Started by JohnZepka, May 02, 2009, 04:02:42 PM

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JohnZepka

2 alternators, 4 regulators, replaced wiring, new battery, replaced ground straps and still no spark at the voltage regulator.  Any geniuses got a clue.  I either run on battery power or I'm over charging pushing 15volts or more. 

charger Downunder

Something must be wrong re check everything or get someone else to go over it while you keep away and see what they come up with.It could be real simple, if all else fails you will have to get an auto electricion out.
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resq302

Just curious, but what is your amp gauge showing when all of this is going on?
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

JohnZepka

If you are looking for the vehicle ammeter when I had it hooked up as soon as I give it gas it pegs all the way to right.  At idle it's a little right of center.  With a voltmeter and rpms up like 15 to 19 volts.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Make sure ALL your wiring isnt cobbled up (splices, corroded connections etc)  All this will cause a voltage drop tricking the regulator to output more than it should.

i had a similar problem where a prev owner twist connected the wires for my ign switch causing a 1 volt loss at the switch itself.  Repaired the connectors with solder & the correct connectors & problem solved!
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


resq302

If it pegs all the way to the right, I would certainly check ALL of your wiring like Chris said.  At max with a dead battery, it should probably charge at around the 20 mark.  These cars at idle barely charged the battery especially with any draw on the system such as blower motor, head lights, etc.  When I had a bad ground on my engine, my ammeter would do the same thing, charge at almost 40 amps which caused the battery to go bad fast from it over charging it and boiling the battery.  Kinda sounds like what you have.

You might want to try disconnecting certain fuses and see if that helps the problem.  This way you can eliminate a certain area and see if it still pegs the ammeter when you raise the rpms.  Have you also hooked up anything that was not installed at the factory such as after market A/C, amplifier, radio, gaming system?
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

JohnZepka

Another question, I ran the car with regulator cap off so I could mess with the points.  First I was at 20volts so I pushed the points in (toward firewall) it stayed there on its own and was at 12volts or so maybe just battery power at that point.  Pulled points outward and was volts were back up.  If the points would stay in or out on its own with only me pushing or pulling them would that be a bad regulator?  If I had pushed them in and it pulled forward on its own wouldn't it be compensating for something else at that point?  Just asking.

acelondon

make sure you reg is VERY WELL grounded. like sand to shiny metal around one bolt. and clean the hell out of teh connector, maybe ever replace it. :Twocents:

JohnZepka

I might just have it this time can someone tell me if these volt numbers are good. With solid state regulator 12 or 13 volts at idle at threaded stud on alt, battery, into resistor, ignition side of regulator, and 14 or 15volts with rpms up at same places.  6 or so volts at field side of regulator at idle but drops below 3 volts with rpms up, and 12 or so volts at coil and 13 or 14 with rpms up.  Are these O.K.?  Thanks.

acelondon

All sound good to me. One more tho. Get a voltage from the ACC terminal on the fuse box. idle and anything over 2500RPM. Post those and that will confirm the good news.

b5blue

Always check all your ground straps is good advice and check out Natcho's upgrade on the wiring for the amp gauge! Good Luck! :2thumbs: