Charger values - 2nd gen only

[gtx6970]

I've been seriously considering the purchase of another old car.
A 1970 Chareger would be on top of the list , followed closely by a 69 then a 68 as distant 3rd.

What are realistic values on them today, anyone been watching sale prices?

Doesn't need to be an R/T , but Big block and an automatic is mandatory, factory A/C preferred, color is not important but would prefer it to be it's original color . I would prefer original sheetmetal but it's not an absolute
1st or 3rd generation cars need not apply

[Sublime/Sixpack]

The NADA site can give you some figures to consider.

[mikepmcs]

What I did notice about NADA is they tend to be a little high.  Obviously the price will be what the market wants to pay.   You are most definitely looking at the right time, I think most of us agree on that.

I bet you could get what you want for around 20 and that is creeping in the R/T range as well.  As much as I hate to say it, Ebay has become a better used car value guide than any of them.

FWIW, I think you will pay more for a 69 in the same condition and specified options.

Good luck.

[Dodge Don]

70 Charger values are tracked here

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=613

Generally the average prices have held pretty firm.

[69_500]

Hey, I thought you wanted a B5 blue 69 GTX?

I'll tell you where a GTX is if you tell me how to get that Daytona 

JK I'll keep my eyes and ears out for a car in this area for you Bill. Let me know a little more specific what the price $$ your talking, and I'll give some local people some calls. There are quite a few car stashes still up here around the Indy area.

[OneofNoneRT]

Another good one is the "Gold Book"

http://www.manheimgold.com/

[Mike DC]

So you like the 1970 cars better than the 1969/68s?    That preference will probably work in your favor as far as pricing goes; the 1969 cars are the most popular, probably followed by the 1968s. 

But there are also fewer reproduction sheetmetal parts for the 1970s.  It was a one-year-only front clip.  The mechanical/drivetrain parts availability would be the same for all 3 years.


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Just as a general comment: 

2nd-gen Chargers are expensive at any level, but the ones needing work are the highest priced proportionally compared to what you get.  It's always a better deal to buy an already finished non-rusty musclecar of any kind, but this is EXTREMELY true with 2nd-gen Chargers. 

It's a very gratifying car to own, and even a gratifying car to build up with hi-po mods, but it's NOT a gratifying car to restore at all. 

[PocketThunder]

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Just as a general comment: 

2nd-gen Chargers are expensive at any level, but the ones needing work are the highest priced proportionally compared to what you get.  It's always a better deal to buy an already finished non-rusty musclecar of any kind, but this is EXTREMELY true with 2nd-gen Chargers. 

It's a very gratifying car to own, and even a gratifying car to build up with hi-po mods, but it's NOT a gratifying car to restore at all. 

Geez Mike, your taking the wind out of my sails with your honesty... 

[Mike DC]

Geez Mike, your taking the wind out of my sails with your honesty... 

Hey, you ain't the only one with some unfinished Chargers.   

[68charger383]

I think this is a pretty good looking car, especially if its an AZ car. (but a 340?)

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,55264.0.html

Here's a nice 69

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1086844368.html

[ACUDANUT]

 Man, we have several members here that have a 69/70 Charger for only 10-14 grand.  Completely restored and are awesome cars.
Here is one.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,52995.msg612103.html#msg612103

[Troy]

Man, we have several members here that have a 69/70 Charger for only 10-14 grand.  Completely restored and are awesome cars.
Here is one.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,52995.msg612103.html#msg612103

Yes, but... that car in particular:
1. Not "completely restored" (ie. interior)
2. "Awesome" is subjective
Look closely before assuming a $10-14k car is actually all that nice. "Driver"? Maybe. Restored? Highly unlikely. There are some nice cars out there for sure but be sure to have realistic expectations. Knowing Bill, a $20k "driver" will still take another $15-20k before it's "right".

Troy

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Knowing Bill, a $20k "driver" will still take another $15-20k before it's "right".

Troy

I concur 100%

[69CoronetRT]

Knowing Bill, a $20k "driver" will still take another $15-20k before it's "right".

Troy

I concur 100%

I think you're both low.

[Troy]

Knowing Bill, a $20k "driver" will still take another $15-20k before it's "right".

Troy

I concur 100%

I think you're both low.

Depends on whether you're counting labor and retail vs wholesale prices.

Troy

[G-man]

It is worth what somebody will pay. Here is my recent experience.

I baught a 68 charger 3 months before the economy went down the toilet (may last year)

Paid the owner 20 000US for a 318/auto car that was converted to a 383-4 speed hurst.

This is what the car still needed to be baught to be good (ontop of the 20k US just paid):

Seat Belts front and back
Exterior Mirrors x2
750cfm Holley DP carb (had a crappy 650cfm vacuum secondary that didnt work propperly on it)
Needed braided fuel hoses for the holley
Had to fix Power steering leak
Needed a new set of Leads that go to spark plugs (stianless steel ones)
Had to get fuel sender unit soldered (when i filled it up petrol went everywhere)
Needed a new rubber trunk seal
4 rubber door stoppers
Fuel lines
Reverse light switch (old one leaking gearbox fluid)
Needed a brand new clutch plate and pressure plate (heavy duty 1050lbs clamp load)
Needed to re-machine the flywheel also
Needed a new coil (pro comp 40 000 volt)
Needed a new starter motor (old one blew up)
Needed spark plugs
Power steering belts
Spigot bushes
Clutch pushrods
new shock absorbers on all 4 (bilstein shocks)
New leaf springs, old ones were cactus (got Super stockers)
New poly bushings for whole thing
Needed new sway bar 1 1/8th" (1.125)
Torsion bars 0.960"
Pitman arm
Idler arm
Radiator fan cowling/shroud

Body is not too bad, paint  chipped here and there, few spots need welding, thats about it.
Interior is pretty good
and the grill is cracked down the middle (need to get that fixed to)

Paid about 12 000 extra in parts and labour ontop of the 20US I got it for with all that missing/needing replacement.

Got offered $70 000 for it.

Going by that, a car in that condition (needing all that stuff) should have cost me 40 000US not 20.

So really its a hit and a miss as to what its worth, some1 will offer you nothing and the next person double of what you thought. 

Hope that helps.

[bullit68]

you had 32k into a 318 car and were offered 70k?i sure hope you took it!

[nakita7]

you had 32k into a 318 car and were offered 70k?i sure hope you took it!

Ya think? These cars ain't that rare...

[gtx6970]

Knowing Bill, a $20k "driver" will still take another $15-20k before it's "right".

Troy

I concur 100%

I think you're both low.

wow, tough crowd.

Actually folks I want a driver. I realize I'll A+M'z it a bit just to sastify myself , and I'm willing to to accept that . I would like  to be in under 20K with a nice driver .

my ideal car would be a 1970 Charger 383 or 440 RT with factory air , buckets and buddy seat with a column auto. the more options the happier I'd be .
FY1 is high on the list - plum crazy is way down on the list. B7 or B5 would be good especially if it has either  blue or white interior . F5 or F8 green is also high on the list and green interior would not kill the deal if it's orig metal and optioned nice

I will be out looking at  Carlisle and the Nats. something else I would seriously consider is a 1966 or 67 Plymouth B-body , hardtop or vert. again, options are good. will not consider a 4 spd car at all, been there , done that
Can you tell , I have NO desire for a barebones go fast only car

[chargerboy69]

I have not seen anyone mention this source, but E-Bay is not a bad indicator to watch where prices are at. Yes there are some variables that might sway prices some; shill bidding for example, nonetheless E-Bay is still a decent indicator.  I am also looking for another 1969 Charger at the moment and I can not recall prices being this low in a very long time. It is defiantly a buyers market right now if a seller needs to sell.  Finding the car will happen, patience seems to be the immense hurdle at the moment.

[G-man]

you had 32k into a 318 car and were offered 70k?i sure hope you took it!

No I didnt cause Ive seen what people paid 30k for in the states n when it got here was a heap of $##+ that woulda cost 100k (this includes converting 30US to 50K or so AU dollars shipping etc) and then having to spend big bucks to fix it all up. I love the charger and the condition its in. Has a 383 in it and a 4 speed (that 4 speed saved me 6000 here to convert) so no way am i selling. Its been my dream just glad I got it for what I did knowing I could have paid alot more $ for it.

[472 R/T SE]

Just listed @ the Registry.  Maybe a little on the high side $$, but it's definitely clean.

A little more work than you may want, although I know you're capable of putting it back together.

Plus it's in Kentucky.

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=6110


I'd offer you a Challenger but after I pick it up from the paint shop you won't like it.