Cut-up about geting Cut-up!!!

[426HemiCharger]

The thing that pisses me off the most is when someone cuts up a body of a perfectly good car or a car with a little too much rust.

[G-man]

Il be tubbing my perfectly good 68 charger and more than likely cutting the back lights out to stick 70 charger lights in the rear.

Is that what you were refering to?

[mauve66]

cuts up a body of a perfectly good or a bad car.

so is it perfectly good or just bad??  can't be perfectly bad, if the body is bad then what would you do with it?? they don't make panels for every section so you have to use parts cars.  99.9999999999% of people won't cut up a body thats just as good or better than their body, wouldn't make sense.

[mauve66]

your too young to remember the pro street craze in the 80's, we're lucky to have any cars at this point

[426HemiCharger]

I mean people who misjudge the condition of a car and make it a parts car by cutting it up when it can be fixed.  There are a lot more new parts than there were in 1990. So cars can be more fargone and still be repairable, people who are lazy and cut up a car like that, is what irritates me.

[mopar_nut_440_6]

Something to keep in mind is a lot of people do not have the skills to do a lot of the expensive work such as panel replacements, frame rails etc so a car which is fine to one person may appear too far gone to the next. These cars can be purchased restored cheaper than a rebuild most of the time unless you are doing all of the work yourself.

I sold my 68 Charger drag car in the 90's for 600 bucks because at that I time thought it was too far gone and worth nothing (318 column shift). I kick myself in the a$$ for that today. But to be honest if I still had it I would probably have tubs in it and a full tube chassis and it would be a nice clean pro street ride!

[MoparManJim]

Okay, how can I put this, people like to b!tch about folks cutting up a charger for parts and what not, well what do they call it when they cut out the wheel wells to put tubs in for a prostreet car? they are cutting parts out of a good charger for that stuff as while and yet some of these folks like to b!tch at folks for cutting up a charger to begin with. They should look at them selfs first.   

I at times hear folks saying well I won't cut a car like that up, then the next thing out of there mouth is "oh well if I had that car I would tube it out amd make it into a pro-street car"... hey buddy you just said before that, that you wouldn't cut a car like that up but yet you just said you would tube it out.. that call's for cutting things out of the car. 

[paironines]

I parted this one out maybe 4 years ago and I doubt anyone would have fixed it. Front drivers rail cut out, rear rails rusted past the rear axle arch, rotted roof, pans, everything. Also, the firewall was bent/repaired poorly from an accident on the pass side long ago. The only way I wouldn't have cut it up is if I had a huge yard where it could sit.

[Mike DC]

 
Cutting up a Charger shell with profits in mind is usually kind of a crime.  It usually means there was enough there to warrant saving it. 


Cutting up a Charger shell after everyone in the surrounding three counties has picked it over, down to cutting stuff off with a sawzall?  That's is usually okay. 

[Khyron]

If it's shot, cut it to save another, If it can be brought back, Dont cut it. Thsi is of course My Opinion.

[dodgecharger-fan]

If it's shot, cut it to save another, If it can be brought back, Dont cut it. Thsi is of course My Opinion.

[MoparManJim]

If it's shot, cut it to save another, If it can be brought back, Dont cut it. Thsi is of course My Opinion.

I like your opinion bud. 

[richard pettys 73]

The thing that pisses me off the most is when someone cuts up a body of a perfectly good or a bad car.

well think about it... ..some people dont even care to cut them up.. ..some just send them strait to the crusher no matter what it looks like.. .so i would say to the peson who is cutting up one to complete another .. ..go for it and thank you fro trying to save at least one of the two 

[MoparManJim]

The thing that pisses me off the most is when someone cuts up a body of a perfectly good or a bad car.

well think about it... ..some people dont even care to cut them up.. ..some just send them strait to the crusher no matter what it looks like.. .so i would say to the peson who is cutting up one to complete another .. ..go for it and thank you fro trying to save at least one of the two 

Yep, back in the day my aunts son and his wife had two chargers of the 2nd gen, one was I belive a 70 and the other a 69. They was setting for afew months out in the feild in the summer, well my my aunt ask them about the cars as at the time I was looking for one and she knew it. They wanted 500.00 for both. Well soon after my aunt had ask and was helpping me get the cars from them as I was getting a loan, they took and had the cars hauled off to a junkyard and crushed  , They needed a motor and some work was all. Just after this had happen, I got the money and was still looking for one and my cousin was ouchy about it as him and his wife didn't make much from the cars at the yard so they kinda lost out. The cars had some good parts on them as while. Even back then the cars was getting hard to find and after I heard what happen to the two cars I was  . I didn't talk to my cousin for at least 3 years   

[FLG]

Ya cant save em all. If one needs to go to save another then so be it. Better then 2 cars rotting and getting nowhere.

[jb666]

I'm not sure... What would Hans do here 

I agree with others.. If you can cut up a car that's too far gone to save another, that's great!!!

[jaak]

I caught a lot of grief for parting a 69 RT, but i paid 2500 for it in 2000 I probably made 1500-2000 of that back and kept half the stuff for my other RT. Best thing to do for me financially, cause i would have never restored both cars. The one I parted was pretty rusty from the doors back, the one in my avatar was pretty solid but missing a bunch of stuff.

Jason

[captnsim]

The way I see it is, they bought it...so they can do as they please. That's what makes this country free.

[Charger-Bodie]

 I think its worse when its a Charger getting cut up. Simply because there are a one body car unlike the road runner vs satelite ...etc...Id rather cut up an old satellite or Coronet for its similar parts than see a Charger get chopped up.

[mikepmcs]

I'm not sure... What would Hans do here 

[Charger666]

If it's shot, cut it to save another, If it can be brought back, Dont cut it. Thsi is of course My Opinion.

Couldn't have said it better.

[426HemiCharger]

I'm sorry you feel that way but it seems I have a soft spot for "orphan Chargers".

[Charger666]

I'm sorry you feel that way but it seems I have a soft spot for "orphan Chargers".

So what would you do then, to a Charger that was too dead/rusted to be a running car again?  Just let it sit?  Or use it to help keep another one on the road?

[426HemiCharger]

I would build and fabricate and repair my ass off on the Charger  until it was road-worthy.

[Green71R/T]

Captnism said what my I was thinking.Once you own it you can do as you please.One person's treasure is another's parts.

[Charger666]

I would build and fabricate and repair my ass off on the Charger  until it was road-worthy.

Would you consider selling them afterwards?

[426HemiCharger]

Right, but you should think about a car and look around for New parts to make sure you are not making a mistake by cutting up a Charger... PERIOD!!!

[426HemiCharger]

I would build and fabricate and repair my ass off on the Charger  until it was road-worthy.

Would you consider selling them afterwards?

Sure...even if I loose money on 'em.  Just to save 'em and get 'em in circulation.

[dukeboy320]

ITS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont own a charger (yet) and theres people out there cutting them up i would be soooo greatful just to have one even if it was a pos

[Charger666]

I would build and fabricate and repair my ass off on the Charger  until it was road-worthy.

Would you consider selling them afterwards?

Sure...even if I loose money on 'em.  Just to save 'em and get 'em in circulation.

Have you ever done any of these full restorations already??

[69bronzeT5]

If it's shot, cut it to save another, If it can be brought back, Dont cut it. Thsi is of course My Opinion.

[Mike DC]

Just don't hack up anything with all solid subframe rails.

[charger_cody]

I parted this one out maybe 4 years ago and I doubt anyone would have fixed it. Front drivers rail cut out, rear rails rusted past the rear axle arch, rotted roof, pans, everything. Also, the firewall was bent/repaired poorly from an accident on the pass side long ago. The only way I wouldn't have cut it up is if I had a huge yard where it could sit.

Either way it makes good lawn ornaments haha. 

CODY

[426HemiCharger]

I would build and fabricate and repair my ass off on the Charger  until it was road-worthy.

Would you consider selling them afterwards?

Sure...even if I loose money on 'em.  Just to save 'em and get 'em in circulation.

Have you ever done any of these full restorations already??

Well I'm in the middle of one!

[426HemiCharger]

I parted this one out maybe 4 years ago and I doubt anyone would have fixed it. Front drivers rail cut out, rear rails rusted past the rear axle arch, rotted roof, pans, everything. Also, the firewall was bent/repaired poorly from an accident on the pass side long ago. The only way I wouldn't have cut it up is if I had a huge yard where it could sit.

Either way it makes good lawn ornaments haha. 

CODY

Well they make reproduction "Front drivers rail , rear rails ,  roof, pans" and "firewall". Look for 'em.

[Hemidoug]

You forgot an option....sell it to HLPAG.....

[426HemiCharger]

Oh, yeah I totally forgot!!!


BTW Nice Hemi Charger I'm jealous of you.

[Charger666]

You forgot an option....sell it to HLPAG.....

LOL       

[paironines]

I parted this one out maybe 4 years ago and I doubt anyone would have fixed it. Front drivers rail cut out, rear rails rusted past the rear axle arch, rotted roof, pans, everything. Also, the firewall was bent/repaired poorly from an accident on the pass side long ago. The only way I wouldn't have cut it up is if I had a huge yard where it could sit.

Either way it makes good lawn ornaments haha. 

CODY

Well they make reproduction "Front drivers rail , rear rails ,  roof, pans" and "firewall". Look for 'em.

How much are you going to give me for the next one I bring home so you can save it?  Wow, I didn't know they made roof skins, front rails, and firewalls 4 years ago!?

[426HemiCharger]

Easy now... They had internet back then, there has been a phone book since there has been a telephone, haven't you gone to a swap meet or something?

Those exist  I had no idea!!

[paironines]

Where do you think those swap meet roofs and front frame rails came from 4 years ago??  Parts cars!!! 

[426HemiCharger]

Fine but there are Mopar parts dealers too!!!

4 years ago there were repros for the aforementioned. Don't gimme that!

[Troy]

Fine but there are Mopar parts dealers too!!!

4 years ago there were repros for the aforementioned. Don't gimme that!

Where? This site has been here for almost 4 years now (and the previous site since 2001) and I can tell you for a fact that most of the parts we have today didn't exist even 2 years ago. The repro parts that were available (especially sheet metal) were a joke. There still aren't many parts for 1st or 3rd gen cars.

Troy

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I concur....

it was either good used or nothing...

[426HemiCharger]

Fine but there are Mopar parts dealers too!!!

4 years ago there were repros for the aforementioned. Don't gimme that!

Where? This site has been here for almost 4 years now (and the previous site since 2001) and I can tell you for a fact that most of the parts we have today didn't exist even 2 years ago. The repro parts that were available (especially sheet metal) were a joke. There still aren't many parts for 1st or 3rd gen cars.

Troy

I know many repro skins are "jokes" even today!  So fab up replacement pieces by hand even from bits of scrap.  Use the original or what you think to make the part. Laziness in at an all time high  !!!

[FLG]

Fine but there are Mopar parts dealers too!!!

4 years ago there were repros for the aforementioned. Don't gimme that!

Where? This site has been here for almost 4 years now (and the previous site since 2001) and I can tell you for a fact that most of the parts we have today didn't exist even 2 years ago. The repro parts that were available (especially sheet metal) were a joke. There still aren't many parts for 1st or 3rd gen cars.

Troy

I know many repro skins are "jokes" even today!  So fab up replacement pieces by hand even from bits of scrap.  Use the original or what you think to make the part. Laziness in at an all time high  !!!

Your kidding right?

Ill "fab" up a roof skin, or "fab" up a fender...mind you it costs thousands and thousands of dollars for companies like AMD to initially come up with the tooling for these parts. Heck imma grab me some sheet metal and "fab" up my frame rails.

The "fab" jobs are some of the reasons people have to invest so much money into these cars, because previous owners figured they would fab up some sheet metal, bondo, and fiberglass and WHAMO!!! look at that quarter panel...all fixed.

When you have the time, the knowledge, and the money to make parts yourself then congrats as for the rest of us well be pulling from parts cars and repos....well take the lazy way out.

And i figure since i dont have the time or tools to do alot of the sheet metal work myself and i bring it to a resto shop ill be taking the extreme lazy way out wont i??

[Troy]

Fine but there are Mopar parts dealers too!!!

4 years ago there were repros for the aforementioned. Don't gimme that!

Where? This site has been here for almost 4 years now (and the previous site since 2001) and I can tell you for a fact that most of the parts we have today didn't exist even 2 years ago. The repro parts that were available (especially sheet metal) were a joke. There still aren't many parts for 1st or 3rd gen cars.

Troy

I know many repro skins are "jokes" even today!  So fab up replacement pieces by hand even from bits of scrap.  Use the original or what you think to make the part. Laziness in at an all time high  !!!

Uh, yeah. Laziness.

Troy

[FLG]

Im sorry but i find it extremely offensive to call anyone who maintains ANY classic car (weather it be with money or with tears, sweat, and blood or like most of us with a little of both) lazy.

[426HemiCharger]

Well its a car not a jigsaw puzzle so there has to be thought in it.  A guy with a welder and a hack saw and a press can do it or have a guy do it for a good price. It actually takes more'n a monkey to do the job

[FLG]

Well its a car not a jigsaw puzzle so there has to be thought in it.  A guy with a welder and a hack saw and a press can do it or have a guy do it for a good price. It actually takes more'n a monkey to do the job

If you think thats ALL it takes to do any substantial sheet metal work to these cars, boy you sure do got alot to learn. And unless you got money to spare just giving it to a reputable resto shop will easily run you a hefty sum.

[426HemiCharger]

That's right if you really cared you WOULD go out of your way to fix a car. No cut up another one.




P.S. Nice sarcasm Troy!

[captnsim]

Well its a car not a jigsaw puzzle so there has to be thought in it.  A guy with a welder and a hack saw and a press can do it or have a guy do it for a good price. It actually takes more'n a monkey to do the job

Hey...I think you missed your bus...

[FLG]

 



So instead of fixing 1 we let 2 cars rot because we have no money to fix one and no parts to put into a car that just needs some.


LMAO capt!

[426HemiCharger]

Aren't you late for something? Captnism.

[NHCharger]

Three years ago I dragged home this little gem.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,12710.0.html

This car would have given JB's General a run for it's money in the rust department. The cost to restore this plane jane 318 versus it's resale cost doesn't make any sense. Spend 30k to restore a car that would be worth 5-6k. If you think that's OK I see a future congressman.
Don't get me wrong, I love 3rd gen Chargers. I felt bad cutting it up ,especially with only 80k miles on it. But all the savable parts were tagged and stored in my garage. Several parts went directly on to my 72. I wish we could but you have to face reality, ya can't save em all.

[paironines]

This R/T still exists today except since this picture was taken the front rails/ inner fenders were torched off. I'm sure I have a pic somewhere. The car now starts where the torsion bar crossmember should've been. No VIN and most everything else is paper thin. To fabricate or buy everything to make this a car again would take a lifetime. Then still there is no VIN. I understand your enthusiasm for Chargers but this car is one unreasonable project.

[426HemiCharger]

Three years ago I dragged home this little gem.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,12710.0.html

This car would have given JB's General a run for it's money in the rust department. The cost to restore this plane jane 318 versus it's resale cost doesn't make any sense. Spend 30k to restore a car that would be worth 5-6k. If you think that's OK I see a future congressman.
Don't get me wrong, I love 3rd gen Chargers. I felt bad cutting it up ,especially with only 80k miles on it. But all the savable parts were tagged and stored in my garage. Several parts went directly on to my 72. I wish we could but you have to face reality, ya can't save em all.

True that Brother!!!

I just guess I care too much

[426HemiCharger]

There are exceptions to the rule but.. If there is a value I  a number in the future: 4-2-6!!!

[jaak]

This is the most rediculous thread I ever read. I love mopars all my life, Im not one thats jumped on the bandwagon in the last few years... but dude are you serious? Its all about $$$$, plain and simple. If I buy a rusted out 318 car... I can part it, probably triple what I paid for and put that money into a worthy project. Or sink 50k into a full blown resto, and have a 318 car worth 20k? Thats just stupid and makes no since what-so-ever economically. You said you'd restore them and sell them at a loss, just to keep them from being cut up? Thats bullshit. If thats the case... start your resurrection mission, restore all rust buckets...then give them away for free. Evidently you have more money than you do since.

Jason

[NHCharger]

I just guess I care too much

It's great to see a young gun have the passion that you do for our Chargers. Just don't let your passion cloud your vision of reality.

He's only 15, cut him a little slack. We've had other kids here that have typed first, thought later. I've been guilty of that on several occasions.

[426HemiCharger]

10-4 

[FLG]

I just guess I care too much

It's great to see a young gun have the passion that you do for our Chargers. Just don't let your passion cloud your vision of reality.

Yep!

Just realize you will NEVER see the money you put into a car. Well its possible if you ever sell it you can get some of your cash back, but its unlikely you will be getting it all or making a profit. For me the money im putting into my 3rd gen most guys will tell me to buy another more solid car...i want to fix this car because its mine and its my first mopar. I already have come to the reality that i will never see this money again, but i will enjoy the car when its done, enjoy it now even the way it is, and pretend to enjoy seeing it sit around when its getting fixed...in a way i will enjoy that but its not as fun as driving it  

[Charger666]

Yeah, it's true.
Some cars are just impossible to salvage.
Indeed, it always sucks to see such awesome machines rust in peace, but that's life.  It's great when they can be restored or salvaged, but sometimes it's better to let nature take it's course, and salvage the parts rather than the car.

But, I indeed have the same passion you do, however, you have to think: If it CAN be fixed, then FIX IT!  If not, let it go.

[426HemiCharger]

I plan on a weeknd warrior and and stock strip racer 

[69bronzeT5]

We've had other kids here that have typed first, thought later. I've been guilty of that on several occasions.