Looking for info on the 17 General Lee's bought from Warner Brothers

[MoparMotel]

It is kind of a dream to me to own one of the 17 General Lee's bought by Wayne from Warner Brothers.... Does anyone know who owns them or if any of them are for sale? Any help is appreciated!

[MoparMotel]

also i think he bought them in the late 80's early 90's from WB, But cant remember???

[Ghoste]

Contact Wayne Wooten of the Dodge Charger Registry, it was a deal he put together.


http://www.dodgechargerregistry.com/

[GL#10]

Hey

I believe there are  only one of the 17 for sale right now , it is in california , price is $150k  , WGL76 .


K.c

[duo-stripe]

is that the Jablonski-car, in the Volo-museum?
i believe GL # 13 was for sale a few weeks ago on the Bay

[GL#10]

Hey

No its not the  Jablonski-car , it is another one , i use to own it ,WGL76  ,  Volo never have had an original on display in there museum , they where caught out displaying a clone with fake paperwork By Wayne Wooten , any other General lee they have ever sold have all been clones !!!, that did not stop them claiming them to be the real deal .


SGL13 is not one of the "17 from the dodge charger registry "    , there are  22 T.v series to survive , only 17 have the paperwork from Wayne and the W.B  .

Either way expect to pay at least $150k  for one  with the W.b paperwork and contract , most of the guys who have the cars now don't intend to sell them .


K.c

[General_01]

Wasn't the one in the Volo museum the car that was used on Smallville, a WB tv show? It was a GL replica and they painted it blue for the show and then when it was done, WB made it a GL again. So, according to the owner, it was a WB built GL.

[1970Moparmann]

Scott Spirakas from the Chicagoland Mopar Club has one of these.  He may be able to help also......  Sorry, I don't have any contact information since the website is down.

[Ghoste]

Those Volo scammers are right up there with HLPAG and BK aren't they?

[GL#10]

Those Volo scammers are right up there with HLPAG and BK aren't they?


Yes they sure are  , there museum is full of clone hollywood cars and overpriced/underestored  POS .


K.c

[MoparMotel]

Thanks for the help guys! I appreciate it!

I had a General Lee, but since it was an R/T SE I didn't want to weld the push bumper on and put the roll cage in it. About six months later removed all GL stuff, put a black R/T stripe on it and sold it to someone in Australia. Out of 4 Chargers i kept my first one, a black 68 and hopefully one day buy an original general lee. So there are 22 left, 17 of which have WB Paper work from when they were bought?

[MoparMotel]

Anyone know about this car?

http://www.dukesonline.com/realgl.html

[mikepmcs]

I wouldn't call him, I'd be contacting Wooten's clan to see if it's legit.

http://dohgltruth.com/seventeen%20general%20lees.htm


---------------------------------------------------------Mike DC style

Where are you Mike? Your thoughts on this?

[MoparMotel]

Also, one more question......Haven't been into this General Lee stuff in a few years......does Marvin Murphy still own lee 1?

[jb666]

I wouldn't call him, I'd be contacting Wooten's clan to see if it's legit.

http://dohgltruth.com/seventeen%20general%20lees.htm


---------------------------------------------------------Mike DC style

Where are you Mike? Your thoughts on this?

There's some good info on that site. 

[kikgas01]

Anyone know about this car?

http://www.dukesonline.com/realgl.html

That is K.c.`s old car.

[69bronzeT5]

Also, one more question......Haven't been into this General Lee stuff in a few years......does Marvin Murphy still own lee 1?

I thought Travis Bell still owns the car?


I tried contacting Wayne Wooten about registering my '69 with the registry but he never replied.

[GL#10]

Hey

Travis and Gary S haven't  owned the "71 car " for years  Marvin owns it ,  Travis oversaw its restoration , thats about it .

http://www.dukesonline.com/realgl.html

I can't believe that link is still out there , i sold WGL57  in 2001 to the Cars of the Stars Museum in the U.K ,  it is sitting right along aside the Mad Max Interceptor in the Museum .

  Wayne's site  has no info on any of the other screen used cars to survive ,only the "17"  ,nothing even about the two  Uncle Jesse Trucks that are still around , and no information on the 2005-2007 movie GL's either .


K.c

[Mike DC]

Yeah, what KC said. 



At any given time you can usually find 1 or 2 of the 20-ish "real" GLs for sale.  It's less commonly one of the surviving 17 and more often one of the scattered few other odd ones.  Although it varies whether or not the seller is seriously trying to sell it soon, or they're just leaving the ad up with a huge Bill Gates price and don't have a big expectation of actually getting it.

   

[police1]

there are a few other cars that survived the show too...

[bull]

Jim Morgan up in Washington state owns one. I've seen it 2 or 3 times...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27973.0.html

[MoparMotel]

Anyone here from the forum own one of the 17? Also who bought police 1 and 2 from Cliff's yard where Lee 1 was?

[GL#10]

Hey

I have owned 2 of the " 17 "  WGL57 a 68  , and WGL76  a 69  , i now own SGL13  , it along with lee-1 , and 2 other chargers have since surfaced  since the Dodge Charger Registry deal , i also own Movie GL # 10 a 1968 R/T  .

The "17" have a strict contract you must  sign when you buy one of them ,it has guidelines that must be followed ,or you risk having the car confiscated .

K.c

[MoparMotel]

You have to sign a contract saying you will not use it in shows or something?

[moparstuart]

You have to sign a contract saying you will not use it in shows or something?

[NMike]

Hey

I have owned 2 of the " 17 "  WGL57 a 68  , and WGL76  a 69  , i now own SGL13  , it along with lee-1 , and 2 other chargers have since surfaced  since the Dodge Charger Registry deal , i also own Movie GL # 10 a 1968 R/T  .

The "17" have a strict contract you must  sign when you buy one of them ,it has guidelines that must be followed ,or you risk having the car confiscated .

K.c

i have often wondered about that "contract". would it hold up in court? ocne you pay for something in full, it is yours and you have the right to do with it as you please.

my parents sold property that belong to my grand parents. they wanted to sell it, but not to see it sub-divided or clear cut and developed. they sought legal council and were told that once sold, the owners could do whatever they wanted with it.

[GL#10]

Hey

Im not sure how you would go in court , it is a legal document you are signing ,not ifs or buts , you want one of the " 17  " you got to sign the contract no way around it , there are guidelines you got to follow  .



  I never had any problem with it , ive still got copies of it , ill have to go over it again .

  There are 4 tv series Gl's   , 2 Jesse pickup trucks and police 1 and police 2 , that are out there and where not part of the "17 Dodge charger registry deal " that have no paperwork ,or contract with the W.B   .

  The recent Movie General lee's  , where sold at auction with no Contract to sign , ony proof you have is title in W.B name and auction paperwork .


K.c

[BrianShaughnessy]

Is there any way to verify a past owner of a TV general?

I know of a local country DJ "supposedly" had a TV general and it was "supposedly" sold for over 6 figures last year.   But it was just too pretty in person and I didn't know whether to believe it was a real TV car or not.   I didn't really care if it was some General buildup but when somebody else told me it was a TV car I had my doubts. 

[Mike DC]

Oh yeah, the surviving TV cars are known very well.  WB had a standard procedure for scrapping them.  The only ones (outside the 17) that still exist have each survived because of a specific incident outside the norm. 


The VIN could be checked against the series numbers if it came to that.  But honestly, I've never seen a fake TV Lee that's anywhere even close to convincing.  Most people just don't understand how Hollywood prop-cars are done differently from a normal street machine buildup.  Even when fans build copies of specific TV series cars, the replicas are still invariably WAY too nice to get mistaken for an original.

[nz69]

I've seen a General Lee down here in New Zealand for sale. It was brought out here by Warner Bros for promotional purposes.They have letters and photos and stuff for it. It's quite rough-and ,I think it's for sale. 

[gibb5y]

ive seen that one aswell.
it was displayed on green lane in its orignal patina and the next time i saw it was at the kumeu hot rod festival it had been resprayed but had had the decal's masked off .

totally ruined it will have a look see if ive got some pics.

gibbsy long time member 1st time poster

[mikepmcs]

Welcome aboard fellas.

[GL#10]

Hey

More new members like myself , welcome  :cheers:

The GL is NZ , is a GLE  General Lee , i have seen pics of it before , it was never on the show screen used ,or built by the WB  it was buit for  car shows,where you could get your picture taken with it .

Kc

[C500]

Welcome fellow kiwi's. Here are a couple of links of interest: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7939.msg94699.html#msg94699

and one showing the NZ General. http://www.cmooremotors.co.nz/cars_general_lee.htm
The video in this one is cool. I'm keen to know if the owner has any genuine documentation to back up it's authenticity. GL#10 is right. As far as I'm aware, the car was never used on the set, but was used for promotional purposes by WB. The current owner is a Greek guy who had some work on it done in Taupo recently. The car is quite rough. Where did you see it for sale and how much?

[gibb5y]

I saw it a few years back at kumeu i think he wanted $50000 it had had a fresh coat of orange blown over and looked awful

heres how it was back in august 05 at continental cars

i might have a few at kumeu somewhere will have a look

and Hi it good to finally post.

Mark

[gibb5y]

it looks better in the pics

here it is back in 2007

[C500]

Thanks for the pics. I saw it at Route 66 in  Newmarket about 3 or 4 years ago when the previous owner had it, then again last year in Taupo. The car has never been certified for use on NZ roads.

[nz69]

Kia Ora guys. Yeah, I saw it at Kumeu the same time as you took those photos gibb5y. I think I have the same photo. Apparently it sat in a field over in the Hamkes Bay for about 5 years. I thought it was 50 g's he wanted too.

Where are you guys from? What do you drive?

[C500]

I'm from Taupo and drive the green 69 C500 in my avatar

[GL#10]

Hey

That is for sure one of the GLE  General Lee's ,  the graphics , the interior  , pushbar are all a dead give away .

K.c

[Mike DC]

Yep.  I agree, it's a GLE car.

Those things are not "real TV cars."  But they're a notch more legitimate than a replica.  (How many other replicas from the early 1980s even used a decent 'Vette orange type of color, let alone a wider pushbar?)  They were sort of like WB's designated touring/public display GLs.

 

[CornDogsCharger]

I've always had an interest in these General Lee Enterprices show cars.  In my opinion, if you couldn't own one of the original 22 remaining cars, these would be the next best thing.  Mostly because of their history.  It seems like every kid that was a fan of the show in the early 80's went to a car show and saw one of these 5 or so cars.  When I was I kid growing up in Atlanta I saw one of these cars. 

Justin
"CornDog"

[kikgas01]

Yep and it`s to bad a friggn IDIOT JUMPED the only factory 4-speed one. Then halbag ended up with it,bondoed it up and sold it as a REAL general from the series. The only factory 4-speed one to survive. F`ING IDIOTS!

[nz69]

Hi Kiwi68-I think we have spoken before on NZMF. I bought Clarkeys yellow 69 charger from Taupo-I'm in Taumarunui. Still looking for a 69 grille.

[C500]

Hi Kiwi68-I think we have spoken before on NZMF. I bought Clarkeys yellow 69 charger from Taupo-I'm in Taumarunui. Still looking for a 69 grille.

Hi Struan, I remember your car when Clarkey had it, sunroof right? I saw your car at Kumeu this year and spoke briefly with a woman getting stuff out of the trunk. Good luck with the grille search, just don't buy one of those re-pops. 

[nz69]

I'll only get a genuine grille. I've read all the comments about the re-pops.
Yeah-sun-roof car-thanks for that info you gave me on it too. We'll have to try and meet up sometime.
Love the 500

[MoparMotel]

Any update on these 17? Have any of them came up for sale or changed hands that you know of?

[1974dodgecharger]

Any update on these 17? Have any of them came up for sale or changed hands that you know of?

does one of the actors count? he has one of his on ebay right now for 150k

[jaak]

Any update on these 17? Have any of them came up for sale or changed hands that you know of?

does one of the actors count? he has one of his on ebay right now for 150k

The one on eBay right now is Byron Cherry's (Coy Duke) car. It was not used in the series.

Jason

[MoparMotel]

I saw the auction on that one yesterday. Not a TV series car but still neat. Looking for specifically one of the 17 that were bought in 1990 and have Warner Brothers documentation.

[UH60L]

Jim Morgan up in Washington state owns one. I've seen it 2 or 3 times...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27973.0.html

Is he from Seattle?  If so, I think he brought his car to our mopar show back in 2007.  Here is a pic of the general lee that was there and it's owner.  The white '69 next to it is mine before it went to the body shop in Feb. of 2008.

[MoparMotel]

I found an old link to a car that claimed to be one of the 17 and was for sale for $60,000 in Australia. Not sure if it's legit or whatever happened to it.


For you experts, Since 1990-1991, how many of the original 17 from Wayne's deal have changed hands and are any currently for sale?

[kikgas01]

It is real He has had several. Kraig Kummins. He is redoing a movie Lee right now.

[kikgas01]

I know 3 for sure. Wgl#63.wgl #57 and don`t remember the number of the other. Just woke up. Can probably do better later. None for sale.

[doctor4766]

I found an old link to a car that claimed to be one of the 17 and was for sale for $60,000 in Australia. Not sure if it's legit or whatever happened to it.


For you experts, Since 1990-1991, how many of the original 17 from Wayne's deal have changed hands and are any currently for sale?

We recently had an open day at our car club. (Charger Club of Western Australia)
I've been told that after I left a bloke pulled up in what he claimed was one of the 17.
I haven't seen it myself so I can't verify anything.

There have also been a few people over the last couple years tell me about an "original" GL not far south of me that was/is undergoing a full resto. Shame if it is, unless it was total crud to start with.
They could even be one and the same car(s) I spose

[tan top]

I found an old link to a car that claimed to be one of the 17 and was for sale for $60,000 in Australia. Not sure if it's legit or whatever happened to it.


For you experts, Since 1990-1991, how many of the original 17 from Wayne's deal have changed hands and are any currently for sale?

We recently had an open day at our car club. (Charger Club of Western Australia)
I've been told that after I left a bloke pulled up in what he claimed was one of the 17.
I haven't seen it myself so I can't verify anything.

There have also been a few people over the last couple years tell me about an "original" GL not far south of me that was/is undergoing a full resto. Shame if it is, unless it was total crud to start with.
They could even be one and the same car(s) I spose

do you know if it were an  69 R/T four speed ??

[doctor4766]

Like I said, I didn't see it myself, although I would have probably been the only one there that "may" have been able to call fake if he'd come before I left.

[tan top]

few years back  , there was an original charger from the show  ,  well was a WB general lee , but used more for publicity i believe , & had no screen time what so ever  ,  was originally green  might even been an R/T SE  but deffo was  a R/T four speed  ,  , it was bought by some chebby business man who repoped the first rear quarters or was going to for the second generation charger ,  anyways he bought this car  , just to jump it  ,  needless to say wrecked it pretty good  ,   think Hlpeg bought it  re-boddied it & sold to to some guy in Oz saying they repaired it !! 
there are a lot of threads about it on here  & even the jump video on youtube ,    some of the facts i've mentioned may not be quite correct , just trying to remember stuff ,  some of the GL charger Mob will be able to fill in the correct story , 
  if indeed i'm thinking of the right one 

[kikgas01]

That was a GLE car. General Lee enterprise car. One that was taken around to car shows back in the 80`s.

[MoparMotel]

http://www.hazzardnet.com/blog/2012/01/24/another-high-dollar-general-lee-hits-the-market/

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-1969-Dodge-Charger-General-Lee-Dukes-Hazzard-Celebrity-Owned-Autographed-/130635443136?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1e6a7aabc0

Is this one of the original 17? they say it's authentic

[kikgas01]

1969 Dodge Charger General Lee Dukes of Hazzard Celebrity Owned / Autographed.
I don`t think so. I would need to see it in person and could tell if I seen it.There are tell tale signs if it is real just by looking at particular parts of the car.

[MoparMotel]

I know 3 for sure. Wgl#63.wgl #57 and don`t remember the number of the other. Just woke up. Can probably do better later. None for sale.

From what I've read I think the third one was WGL76, I can't figure out if it sold or when and what it sold for though. I think it was for sale sometime in 2009.

[TK73]

Jim Morgan up in Washington state owns one. I've seen it 2 or 3 times...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27973.0.html

Is he from Seattle?  If so, I think he brought his car to our mopar show back in 2007.  Here is a pic of the general lee that was there and it's owner.  The white '69 next to it is mine before it went to the body shop in Feb. of 2008.

Yep. Works just down the street from my office...

He is a SOLID regular at Mopar and all makes shows.  LOVES to let people check out the car, he honks the horn and kids get pictures hangin out the window.  Jim is a really good guy.

[tan top]

few years back  , there was an original charger from the show  ,  well was a WB general lee , but used more for publicity i believe , & had no screen time what so ever  ,  was originally green  might even been an R/T SE  but deffo was  a R/T four speed  ,  , it was bought by some chebby business man who repoped the first rear quarters or was going to for the second generation charger ,  anyways he bought this car  , just to jump it   ,  needless to say wrecked it pretty good  ,   think Hlpeg bought it  re-boddied it & sold to to some guy in Oz saying they repaired it !!  
there are a lot of threads about it on here  & even the jump video on youtube ,    some of the facts i've mentioned may not be quite correct , just trying to remember stuff ,  some of the GL charger Mob will be able to fill in the correct story ,  
 if indeed i'm thinking of the right one  

That was a GLE car. General Lee enterprise car. One that was taken around to car shows back in the 80`s.

found the video for said  General lee , jump


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKrNhRda8js&feature=related

[jaak]

That was a GLE car. General Lee enterprise car. One that was taken around to car shows back in the 80`s.

Not trying to hijack the thread, but this is on topic..... Didn't GLE cars have black interior instead of tan??

Jason

[kikgas01]

Yep, they did.

[kikgas01]

Tan, that was a factory 4-speed car and was a GLE car. Hlpag bought it, fixed it and sold it as a real General Lee and was the only factory 4-speed General ever used. LIARS!

[roundyrounder]

Does anyone know about the General Lee that was at the Pioneer Auto Museum in South Dakota? That one looked real authentic. I'm not sure if it's even there I visited it on a family vacation about twelve years ago. I have a pic of it somewhere i'll try to post it if I find it.

[kikgas01]

FAKE!

[Dans 68]

There is another recent thread on this subject http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,88213.msg996296.html#msg996296  

Dan

[roundyrounder]

FAKE!

Thats too bad. I googled the museum and it shows they still have it. It says it's the REAL General Lee. It also says it's on loan. Thats a hell of a long time to loan your car out. I was there in '98 I think

[Mike DC]

              
             
You should assume that any GL being called "real" is phony unless proven otherwise.  Especially any GL that's in a car museum and/or for sale.  It's like calling a musclecar a "survivor," the term is meaningless most of the time.

Another giveaway is the condition of the car.  The TV Generals were nowhere near as nice as most replicas are.  They were like a taxicab fleet, looking tolerable from 20 feet at that's it.  The bodywork was so quick & dirty that no normal body shop would have done it. 

     
           
           

[Ghoste]

Is there any good way to even tell a GLE from the score of other clones out there?

[SBBob]

I have been friends with Jim and knew him when he got the General Lee.  The real cars are usually easy to spot as they have no side marker lights.  They used 68's and 69's for the series (Jim's is titled as a 68).  They removed the side marker lights, put some duct tape in the trunk and bondoed over them.  They were afraid of complaints from the real Charger guys as that is was not a 69 Charger.  On Jim's car you can feel that the flag was painted only once and masked off each time the car was repainted.  There is a ridge that can be felt easily.  Here are some pictures of his car.  As far as the contract, Jim told me he owns the car, but WB still owns the rights to the show and he said that it is pretty iron clad. 

[roundyrounder]

I just thought it was a restored original at Pioneer, but it makes sense, it was too pretty to be the real thing

Ok, just because i'm watching it right now, is there any of the new DOH movie cars hanging around? Either from the original movie or DOH "The Beginning" movie?

[kikgas01]

Yep, K.c. has the only R/T and was in the bottom of the lake in doh the begenning. and there is another guy that has the one that did the courthouse jump. He has that running as well. There are quite a few movie cars running around. The buck car is getting done as well too.

[doctor4766]

Quote from: tan top on January 23, 2012, 06:39:43 AM
few years back  , there was an original charger from the show  ,  well was a WB general lee , but used more for publicity i believe , & had no screen time what so ever  ,  was originally green  might even been an R/T SE  but deffo was  a R/T four speed  ,  , it was bought by some chebby business man who repoped the first rear quarters or was going to for the second generation charger ,  anyways he bought this car  , just to jump it   ,  needless to say wrecked it pretty good  ,   think Hlpeg bought it  re-boddied it & sold to to some guy in Oz saying they repaired it !!  
there are a lot of threads about it on here  & even the jump video on youtube ,    some of the facts i've mentioned may not be quite correct , just trying to remember stuff ,  some of the GL charger Mob will be able to fill in the correct story ,  
 if indeed i'm thinking of the right one  


Quote from: kikgas01 on January 23, 2012, 07:56:04 AM
That was a GLE car. General Lee enterprise car. One that was taken around to car shows back in the 80`s.



Ok so today I saw a GL at a local car show. The owner has had it in Perth for just 2 months I think he said.
He bought if from a bloke in NZ a couple years ago and had been paying it off until recently.
He reckons it was just a promo car, but series era correct none the less.

Few things I spotted:

Had a tattered black interior with '70 front seats.
The panel above the glovebox was light tan with Schneiders "keep it between the ditches" on it and "NZ 2006" written on.
Had only the LHF marker blanked off.
No VIN tag on the dash or fender tag. (although he says he does have them)
No WB marking on the rear glass.
Had the ratchet system disabled on the park brake.
Very dull matt finish paint job.
The painted flag was in awesome shape and very nicely done but nowhere near new.
01 paint and GENERAL LEE text were very faded.
Had a four speed conversion with 383
The pushbar was wide and looked to be very cheaply made.
And though I couldn't see any undercarriage damage myself, the owner tells me his mechanic reckoned it looks as if it had been jumped at some stage.

Difficult to verify it's authenticity as a couple things there don't add up, but it may of course be just a promo car.
The owner told me that he does plan to leave the car mostly alone other than taking care of mechanical issues.

Hopefully some pics tomorrow.

[GL#10]

Hey

On the Movie General Lee's  , i brought #4 #10  #17 and #18  , have since sold  #4 and #17 to friends , both  #10 and #18  where factory 1968 R/T charger's .

  The halpag rebody GLE 69 4 speed General Lee ended up in Melbourne Australia , guy of coarse claimed it to be tv screen used , it never was , he was asking some insane amount of money for it , it appeared in the mag Unique cars down here  , black interior , reissued vectors , it was funny when you called about it , they guy would cuss you out if you asked for proof it was screen used in the television series .


K.c