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Any Orange 69 chargers out there with a white tail stripe?

Started by 1969chargerrtse, March 30, 2009, 09:39:18 PM

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hemigeno

Here's the skinny on V2 HemiOrange availability...

Project Engineering Transmittal EE-110, dated 3/7/69, was sent out to Lynch Road, St. Louis, Hamtramck and Los Angeles assembly plants.  That transmittal references Manual Page Number C-2 and C-3.

I dug through and found Sheet C-3 in the "E" Series Sales Code Manual, which actually shows the date the change was incorporated into the Production line.  That date is March 26, 1969... shows that the paint codes V2 HemiOrange for Dart/Coronet/Chargers was added on 2/27/69.  Paint code K2 for Plymouth B-bodies was added the same day on a change made to Sheet C-2.  While the paint availability was added to Chrysler's home office documentation on that day, the change was not sent out to the actual factories that same day.  The transmittal which records when this particular change was sent out to Lynch Road, St. Louis, Los Angeles and Hamtramck Assembly Plants was dated 3/7/69 as noted above.

Theoretically, no Dart (L), Coronet(W) or Charger(X) would have been sprayed out with V2 Hemi Orange paint (incidentally, K2 for Plymouth B-bodies was mentioned on the same sheets on the same dates) prior to 3/26/69  3/7/69.  I'd be real skeptical of any car coded V2 prior to that time.  99 Special Order paint is another story, but V2 should not appear anywhere until right around that time. 

When the first car in that color appeared, I dunno.  Chris is correct though, there are several Daytonas coded V2 with an SPD of 4/27/69, when a batch of about 100 Daytonas were scheduled to be built.

edited by hemigeno

69_500

The one 99 99 paint code 500 that I have seen had a black stripe on it the 2 times I"ve seen it. However I have been told that there may be a 2nd 99 99 paint code 500 as well, but I have yet to confirm this with any viewings of the car. If/when I do get to see I'll sure let you guys know.

I can think of a few 500's that were sprayed an orange color back in the day, but can't seem to find any pictures of one with a white stripe though.

Just 6T9 CHGR

The one I have registered on 3/17/69 has a 940 special order VON...here is a pic of the tag that I remembered I had....

Looking at it now it looks a bit suspect (not the part where I wiped out the last 6 of the VIN) :scratchchin:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


1969chargerrtse

Quote from: NOT Just 6T9 CHGR on April 01, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
The one I have registered on 3/17/69 has a 940 special order VON...here is a pic of the tag that I remembered I had....

Looking at it now it looks a bit suspect (not the part where I wiped out the last 6 of the VIN) :scratchchin:

I'm not half as educated as you guys, and the first thing I thought when I saw that tag was, it looks like the repro one on my car. Perfect and flat with sharp corners.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

1969chargerrtse

I'm surprised to read how many of you like the white stripe?  Cool.  Is it me or does that car have the emblems on it also, ironically the reason I'm changing mine.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

hemigeno

Quote from: hemigeno on April 01, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
Here's the skinny on V2 HemiOrange availability...

Project Engineering Transmittal EE-110, dated 3/7/69, was sent out to Lynch Road, St. Louis, Hamtramck and Los Angeles assembly plants.  That transmittal references Manual Page Number C-2 and C-3.

I dug through and found Sheet C-3 in the "E" Series Sales Code Manual, which actually shows the date the change was incorporated into the Production line.  That date is March 26, 1969... shows that the paint codes V2 HemiOrange for Dart/Coronet/Chargers was added on 2/27/69.  Paint code K2 for Plymouth B-bodies was added the same day on a change made to Sheet C-2.  While the paint availability was added to Chrysler's home office documentation on that day, the change was not sent out to the actual factories that same day.  The transmittal which records when this particular change was sent out to Lynch Road, St. Louis, Los Angeles and Hamtramck Assembly Plants was dated 3/7/69 as noted above.

Theoretically, no Dart (L), Coronet(W) or Charger(X) would have been sprayed out with V2 Hemi Orange paint (incidentally, K2 for Plymouth B-bodies was mentioned on the same sheets on the same dates) prior to 3/26/69  3/7/69.  I'd be real skeptical of any car coded V2 prior to that time.  99 Special Order paint is another story, but V2 should not appear anywhere until right around that time. 

When the first car in that color appeared, I dunno.  Chris is correct though, there are several Daytonas coded V2 with an SPD of 4/27/69, when a batch of about 100 Daytonas were scheduled to be built.

edited by hemigeno


OK, I need to back up and correct something.  All the document reference numbers are the same, but the sheet dated 3/26/69 has multiple changes listed to it - the last one of which was indeed dated 3/26/69.  All the other changes had an earlier date listed, which I didn't notice while typing the first reply.   :slap:   Chrysler constantly sent out revised sheets to the assembly plants throughout the model year, and they often sent the same sheet multiple times.  Every time a line change was made, they sent out a new copy of the same sheet with the intention of having the old sheet pulled out, discarded, and replaced with the new/revised sheet.  I keyed in on the wrong date, as the V2 and K2 paint changes were not the last change made to Sheet C-2 and C-3.  That's my mistake.

The line change which introduced V2 HemiOrange (and K2 Vitamin C) paint as being available was actually dated 2/27/69.  It was included in a transmittal to the respective assembly plants on the 3/7/69 date I mentioned above.  They sent yet another copy of C-2 and C-3 out to the plants on 3/26/69, but by then the V2 and K2 changes had already been made.

What all this means, and I apologize for being so wordy and confusing, is that a Dart/Coronet/Charger built sometime after 3/7/69 could theoretically have had V2 (or K2 for Plymouth B-bodies) HemiOrange paint.  The tag that Chris posted a picture of could be a replacement tag from a car with those codes, but I agree it seems a little "too nice".  That 940xxx VON is a headscratcher too.

Sorry for the screwup...  I'll edit my earlier reply also...


Magnumcharger

I like Creamsicles....and that pretty well says it all!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Magnumcharger on April 01, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
I like Creamsicles....and that pretty well says it all!
They are good, just not sure they make good car colors.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Stretch

I too very much like the V2 with the white tail stripe! :coolgleamA:
I may be schizophrenic but at least I have us!

moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

CB

I like the red with white stripe/interior/top... like mine was back then :coolgleamA:
1968 Dodge Coronet 500

69CoronetRT

Quote from: hemigeno on April 01, 2009, 05:42:05 PM

What all this means, and I apologize for being so wordy and confusing, is that a Dart/Coronet/Charger built sometime after 3/7/69 could theoretically have had V2 (or K2 for Plymouth B-bodies) HemiOrange paint.  The tag that Chris posted a picture of could be a replacement tag from a car with those codes, but I agree it seems a little "too nice".  That 940xxx VON is a headscratcher too.

Geno, very nice documentation. Thanks for sharing it.

The earliest K2 cars I have on file are an A12 RR with a 329 SPD, so you really don't know when it was built, and a STL built RR also with 329.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.