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New Wheels for a '71

Started by plum500, July 29, 2005, 07:47:14 AM

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plum500

Hey all,

Putting some new rims on the 71. Wondering about backspacing/size recommendations. Was thinking about going the same size all around, and wondering what size I can get away with front/back.

Rims of choice are Torq Thrust Originals.

fred

Charge It!

These are 15 x 7's. The backspacing is 3 1/2. That was the standard backspacing that came with them. I have 255/60/15's on the back and 225/60/15's on the front. You can get them from a variety of places, just shop for the best price.

On a side note and not to steal this thread- I posted a topic in Paint and Body about painting my insets black, if anybody can help me out.

71charger_fan

http://www.moparmuscle69.com/1971chargerterry.htm

15x8s on the rear with 3 3/4" backspacing and 275/60-15s
15x7s on the front, I don't remember the backspacing, probably the same, with 255/60-15s.

I bought my wheels from:

http://www.wheelsforless.com/vintage_wheels.htm

and was very pleased with them.

limeCharger

Quote from: 71charger_fan on July 29, 2005, 02:07:29 PM

15x8s on the rear with 3 3/4" backspacing and 275/60-15s
15x7s on the front, I don't remember the backspacing, probably the same, with 255/60-15s.



Hello All,

This is my first post here.  :)

Question:

Did you have to modify anything?  Also I know the '73 has some suspension differences from the '71 - '72.  Just curious if anyone knows if these would work for sure on a '73 also, they sound in line with the look I'd want.  I'm also interested if anyone has used 4" backspace on x7s or 4 1/2" backspace on x8s.  That seems to be the specs on the reproduction Chrysler Rallyes.   Also I am curious does anyone know a reason why with 255s in front not to use a x8?  I see x7s used more often up front and was wondering why.  Any info / opinions are appreciated.

Joe

ScottW

I used
- 15x8 4.5" bs. with 275/60 tires on the rear
- 15x7 4.25" bs. with 235/60 on the front

I didn't change anything. I would go less backspacing on the front - if I turn the wheel 101% in either direction it can rub. Under normal conditions I don't have any problems whatsoever. I got the Magnums from Jeg's.

Scott
1971 Dodge Charger SE 383 Magnum
1974 Dodge Charger SE 360/4v Sunroof

ScottW

I just remembered that I looked at a 71 R/T last year in Texas. The guy had the same size tire all the way around. It looked pretty good. I can't remember the rim size, 15 I think, but the tire size was 255 or 275 - they were big! I asked him if the fronts rubbed or not and he replied that they didn't. But it looked to me like they had.

This probably doesn't help you out much but it was a mean looking stance. I lost all the pics in a computer crash.   :-\
1971 Dodge Charger SE 383 Magnum
1974 Dodge Charger SE 360/4v Sunroof

Chryco Psycho

I have a friend that runs 8" all the way round seems to work

limeCharger

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on October 12, 2005, 10:54:44 PM
I have a friend that runs 8" all the way round seems to work

Cool.  Any idea if your friend is running the same backspacing front and rear?

andy74

i have 15x7s all the way around,245/60r15s.the rear tires look kind of small,but they fit great and dont rub ever.the back space is 4 1/4 i believe,but i put them on 3 years ago,and dont remember!! i want to replace them with cragar s/s,and will probably sell these,if any one knows any one who wants em

Duey

Quote from: ScottW on October 12, 2005, 08:26:02 PM
I used
- 15x8 4.5" bs. with 275/60 tires on the rear
- 15x7 4.25" bs. with 235/60 on the front

I didn't change anything. I would go less backspacing on the front - if I turn the wheel 101% in either direction it can rub. Under normal conditions I don't have any problems whatsoever. I got the Magnums from Jeg's.

Scott


Scott, very sharp looking ride!  :yesnod: 

FWIW, 71...I have 15x8 255/60's all around...I think the bs is 4.5".  I used to have 275/60-15s on the back but there was occasional rubbing.  I would do 3.5" bs if I were going to put 275's back on (or even 295's, but you'd have to do some good measuring to avoid rubbing).

Cheers,
Duey
73 SE Brougham, F3 , 440, 850 Pro-form, 727 w TA 10", 4.10SG

73chgrSE

I want to go with 295 or 315 on a 15 on the rear on a 10"wide rim. What does the back spacing need to be?

Does everyone here have 5 lug bolt patern? What's the measuement for that?

Nacho-RT74

As far I know max backspacing without any problems is 4"

size of 5 bolts pattern: 4.5
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

73chgrSE

thanks Nacho,

btw How do you come up with 4.5, is that just the diameter?

Ghoste

It's the bolt circle diameter.

Paul G

If you just want to bolt them on with no problems you can use 15" x 8" wheels with a 4" backspace all around. I had those on my 73 before with 235/60's. Plenty of room for a little bit more tire even.

If you want to put a 275 or a 295 tire on the rear you will need more backspace on the wheel to clear the fender lip. A 15" x 8" wheel with 4 1/2" back space will work on the rear with a 275 or even a 295, but not the front, the front wheel will rub on the upper control arm with 4 1/2" of backspace.

If you want a 10" wheel on the rear you will need about 5 1/2" of backspace on the wheel to clear the fender lip. You will need to move the springs in with offset shackles and still have to clearance the spring a bit in the front. If you go with 5" backspace on a 10" wheel the rear will have to stay up pretty high to keep the fender lip off the tire.

I have 15"x10" with 5 1/2" backspace on the rears now. It looks awesome. But I had to do the aforementioned work to the springs.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

Paul G

1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

Nacho-RT74

Paul... just noticed you tail lights are SE kind


pic
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

73chgrSE

Thanks guys. I'm running a 275 now on a 15x8. No clearance issues. Just too much wheel spin. I'l like to run a 315 or atleast a 295. Will I need to go to 10 inch for that?

Paul G

Quote from: 73chgrSE on March 13, 2007, 09:02:27 PM
Thanks guys. I'm running a 275 now on a 15x8. No clearance issues. Just too much wheel spin. I'l like to run a 315 or atleast a 295. Will I need to go to 10 inch for that?

A 295 will fit on a 8". I have seen it many times. The only thing about putting a 295 on an 8" is the tire will bulge out a bit.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

73chgrSE

Summit sells some US wheel series 97, 15x10's that say 4 inch back spacing. If my car will take 4inch bs, wont these fit?

mikepmcs

limecharger

welcome aboard.  :cheers: :wave:

That girl in your pic looks like Leah Remini.  She's one of my favorites of all time.

v/r
Mike
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

T16

I´m looking for 16" x 8" wheels för my ´72.. but the one I want only comes with 5" backspace.
This may work rear.. but in the front..?




This will be the critical point. (this is 4" backspace):
But using a 16" rim also means you can run more backspace.. right..?

Will go for 255/50 16 tires rear.. front  :scratchchin: