Adding a scoop

[devilgear]

What would the best way be to add an Fiberglass hood scoop to a steel hood? I found a scoop I like, but i want to keep my stell hood. I have heard of some troble with a total fiberglass hood.Curling and not fitting well etc....Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

[BLUE68RT4ME]

This is a great question.  I'm thinking of doing it too when I put my replacement motor in to save the original.  I was thinking of going fiberglass on the hood just because of money and weight, but I'm looking forward to what the pro's have to say about it!    

[Brock Samson]

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,17155.0.html

here's my custom hood,.. there are others do a search for "scoop" or "custom hood" i'm sure others will appear...

personally i like the six-pack hood a member used but i think it actually blew off the car at speed or something.. i'll go look for that particular thread....
results of a search... the thread I was thinkin of...
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,35375.0.html

the best results of the search i did came from useing "t/a scoop" in the search window, though i'm sure there are plenty of other variations you colud use to find threads on custom hoods, be sure to use the quotation marks.

[mopar_nut_440_6]

I have a hood which is all fiberglass and it was made using a stock hood with all of the factory inner bracing in it as well. It has been set up to use the hood springs and has plates with adjustment in it. It also has a six pack scoop. It was a custom one off build and the guy said he would never do one again! It cost 1500 to have made but is very nice quality and looks the same as the "Blade" hood.

I will see if I can grab a picture later but it is away in storage at the moment. I think it looks pretty good but am not sure if it will end up on my car as that is not the look I am going for!! I hate to break up the clean lines of a Charger by adding a hood scoop!

Cheers,

james

[doctorpimp]

I measured the hole and cut my hood the riveted the fiberglass scoop right to the hood.  I left the rivets exposed - kind of a road warrior look   I didn't bother screwing around with adhesives and bondo etc.  I didn't want it flying off at speed, nor did I want 3/8" of bondo on the hood... LOL

[BLUE68RT4ME]

That looks really good!    My car had hood pins too, and because I want to be able to swap easily back to fully original I thought about removing them and filling in the holes in the original steel hood and the radiator mount.  Others have told me to keep them.  What do you guys think?  Pins aren't original, and this is a numbers matching R/T car, would you get rid of them too?

[BLUE68RT4ME]

Oh, and thanks for the research for us Brock!     ...And the feedback Mopar Nut!   

[mopar_nut_440_6]

That looks really good!    My car had hood pins too, and because I want to be able to swap easily back to fully original I thought about removing them and filling in the holes in the original steel hood and the radiator mount.  Others have told me to keep them.  What do you guys think?  Pins aren't original, and this is a numbers matching R/T car, would you get rid of them too?

Personally, owning an R/T car as well, if I was doing the bodywork and repainting, I would get rid of the hood pins. I have never had a set of hood pins on a Charger and have had one with 2.76 gears that did 145 MPH with a small block and I did it a lot (I was 17 and stupid). I also had the same car set up for drag racing and put over 1000 passes on it with speeds in the 110 MPH range and never had a hood pop once.

I forgot to mention that the one car I raced had a 6 pack scoop installed. I cut the hood below and had a seal to the air cleaner base for ram air while drag racing. I did not use bondo or sealer but did install a black v shaped fender trim between the scoop and hood  as I wanted no cracking. I countersunk holes in the fiberglass and used screws every couple of inches and it never came off.


Good luck!

[69chargerR/T]

I measured the hole and cut my hood the riveted the fiberglass scoop right to the hood.  I left the rivets exposed - kind of a road warrior look   I didn't bother screwing around with adhesives and bondo etc.  I didn't want it flying off at speed, nor did I want 3/8" of bondo on the hood... LOL

doctorpimp, where did you get your hood scoop. Is that a sixpack style hood scoop.

[doctorpimp]

Yeah functional 6 pack scoop - it was from eBay... I'll try to find the sellers info... MTF

[doctorpimp]

Found it!!!
This is the exact style that I bought!  It even has an indent in it that fits the ridge in the 3rd gen flat hood

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270353600196
http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/rgclmc77/

Great scoop for the price

[devilgear]

The scoop looks great on your car, but i'm looking for something bigger too.I really don't want to rivet it.I want a smother look to it. Maybe I will have to just go with a fiberglass hood...Is there any big disadvantages with them that anyone can tell me about?

[mopar_nut_440_6]

The scoop looks great on your car, but i'm looking for something bigger too.I really don't want to rivet it.I want a smother look to it. Maybe I will have to just go with a fiberglass hood...Is there any big disadvantages with them that anyone can tell me about?

If you get a fiberglass hood with minimal support underneath you will need to use hood pins instead of hinges. Using hinges will cause the hood to bow in the center in the sun. As I said previously I have a hood which was custom made which also had molds made of the inner structure and these two pieces were moulded together. This hood looks like it will be fine with hinges. I will try to get some pics. Maybe somebody is making these hoods!

Perhaps a metal smith could make you a steel version of a 6 pack scoop you could weld on. This is way beyond my capabilities but I know theer are people out there with this skillset but it also may be cost prohibitive!

Cheers,

[BLUE68RT4ME]

I found this site for fiber hoods but haven't called them so I don't know much about the quality and construction.     The price is nice though.  I may be calling them as we get closer to painting mine.  With the swap I plan to do to preserve the original 440 I figured it would be a good opportunity to play but I should have it painted now, with everything else, so that it matches.

http://www.up22.com/charger68.htm

Check 'em out.  If you get to it before me, let me know what you find out.  Otherwise, I'll do the same when I call them.   

[mopar_nut_440_6]

Ok, I grabbed some pics today as I was in my other shop.

You can see the inlaid metal areas for the hood latch and hinges. Fully adjustable and a strong structure. The guy used a stock Charger hoos to make the mold.

[mopar_nut_440_6]

And more pics...

[19charger72]

I found this site for fiber hoods but haven't called them so I don't know much about the quality and construction.     The price is nice though.  I may be calling them as we get closer to painting mine.  With the swap I plan to do to preserve the original 440 I figured it would be a good opportunity to play but I should have it painted now, with everything else, so that it matches.

http://www.up22.com/charger68.htm

Check 'em out.  If you get to it before me, let me know what you find out.  Otherwise, I'll do the same when I call them.   

I bought a fiber sixpack hood from them for my 72. Im getting ready to paint it if the weather stays nice enough. There quailty was very sloppy. What I mean by sloppy it had puddles of resin in a few places on the inside and the fiber glass was really rough. If they just took some care and tried to be a little more neat it would have saved me some time and sandpaper. The front right corner was also damaged like someone dropped it. I could have sent it back but wasn't to bad to fix so a days time instead of waiting. Other than that it seems pretty soild and looks sweet.

Ill take some pics when I paint it

[moparguy01]

there was a place which made a steel 6pk scoop, it was Harms auto, that was a year or two ago, but i remember it was dang pricy, like 800 bucks pricy. Nice looking stuff though, i dont think he sells them anymore though.

[devilgear]

Your guys stuff looks great...I don't want a 6 pak scoop thought.I did see that Goodmark and some other places make a Cowl scoop in steel for around $150.Don't know if I like that either. It does have the ridge going down the middle like my hood, so it would at least line up cool, but the cowl scoop seems to Chevy for me.

[superbirdtom]

just use panel bonding glue like sem or fusor. remember do not use the catalyzed seam sealer but the body glue. it it a two part gun   that takes a two tubed glue cartridge , it is like a fancy caulking gun with special mixing tips. , let dry for a couple days and you will never be able to getthat scoop off bare metal to fiberglass can be glued. then finished of with putty or leave factory scoop edge by taping off i/8 inch under outer scoop edge to keep glue off it. 

i thought of stating a traveling mopar fixit company to do everybodys little jobs . gt a motorhome and fix fix fix.

[mopar_nut_440_6]

just use panel bonding glue like sem or fusor. remember do not use the catalyzed seam sealer but the body glue. it it a two part gun   that takes a two tubed glue cartridge , it is like a fancy caulking gun with special mixing tips. , let dry for a couple days and you will never be able to getthat scoop off bare metal to fiberglass can be glued. then finished of with putty or leave factory scoop edge by taping off i/8 inch under outer scoop edge to keep glue off it. 

i thought of stating a traveling mopar fixit company to do everybodys little jobs . gt a motorhome and fix fix fix.

Fusor is great stuff. We used that when I worked at Peterbilt to glue the multiple piece fiberglass hoods together and install new headlight buckets in the Pete's. I had forgotten about that stuff as it has been 8 years since I worked there.

Thanks for the reminder!

James