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Interesting Color????

Started by CornDogsCharger, March 09, 2009, 09:48:11 PM

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CornDogsCharger

I was flipping through my March 1991 issue of Mopar Collector's Guide and came across this interesting ad.  FK5 is Burnt Orange.  Can anyone shed some light on this???  I would love to see a color photo.

Justin
"CornDog"

1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

XS29J8

Quote from: CornDogsCharger on March 09, 2009, 09:48:11 PM
I was flipping through my March 1991 issue of Mopar Collector's Guide and came across this interesting ad.  FK5 is Burnt Orange.  Can anyone shed some light on this???

Justin
"CornDog"



That's Dave Jones old Superbird he sold to  Dr. Doug Flint I believe..............It was a copper or rootbeer color we called it.

Steve
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Troy

Well, the ad is wrong as far as I know (and I'm no expert). They weren't supposed to make the Bird in that color but at least 2 are documented. I don't have any pics though.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

69_500

I believe to be totally correct Troy there was 3 of the FK5 Superbirds built, or at least that are known today.

I think that is still Dave Jones' phone # that is listed in the ad. He has lived at the same place for probably 25 years now.

CornDogsCharger

Another thing to think of... this ad was from 1991... at the time it may have been the only one known to exist.  I would like to hear the story on how these few cars were painted different colors than the regular 7.  Maybe they were Chrysler employee cars or something... still very interesting.

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

UFO

From a early DSAC newsletter.

nascarxx29

 Mason Dixons car and later Dave Jones F5 5 superbird same car 2 different owners. Original owner I believe was in TN ordered the car in that color.By Inquiry #4923
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Troy

Quote from: 69_500 on March 09, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
I believe to be totally correct Troy there was 3 of the FK5 Superbirds built, or at least that are known today.

I think that is still Dave Jones' phone # that is listed in the ad. He has lived at the same place for probably 25 years now.
Didn't know if I was allowed to mention the 3rd one...

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

nascarxx29

I found something called inquiry #4923 which allowed you to order a FK5 as the One Dave Jones and Mason Dixon owned.That was originally owned by Carl  Hall.Though other cars came is triple black.No superbirds are known in that combo.Maybe as wingcars had a tendency to run hot .Black was not a chosen color for the superbird??And  not available with AC
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemigeno

Quote from: Troy on March 09, 2009, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on March 09, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
I believe to be totally correct Troy there was 3 of the FK5 Superbirds built, or at least that are known today.

I think that is still Dave Jones' phone # that is listed in the ad. He has lived at the same place for probably 25 years now.
Didn't know if I was allowed to mention the 3rd one...

Troy


I don't think he wants his full name put out there, but the car was for sale at Carlisle several years back so it's not a highly guarded state secret.  Steve's is the only FK5 4-speed car AFAIK.


62 Max

Gene,is the car you are refering to at Carlisle the one that was sitting on a trailer about 6/7 years ago that looked as if it had been used in a demo derby?

nascarxx29

 The other FK5 bird.It had a smashed 1/4 I got his name picture and vin I sold him a original triangle superbird jack hold down one year at carlisle.Another possible FK5 was to be a Hemi in NJ Eric Price 174616..A long forgottem trashed out back in the day hemi superbird.From that area Morristown Mendham NJ.Guys name was Eric Price  I found a old neighbor of his.But never found him or any parts of RM23ROA174616 And never found that FK5 Hemi superbird


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

pettybird

does anyone KNOW if that's how the cars got made?  three people in different parts of the country all picked the same non stock color?  and no one else (so far) picked anything else?

I still think it was a fat finger typo--someone at central hit FK5 instead of FJ5. 

nascarxx29

The earliest FK5 superbird accounting or ordering . I found was from this Aug 80 article from Carl Hall who originally ordered the FK5 superbird using the Inquiry #4923..mentioned  here in last part of the newsletter MOPAR PAINT CODE FLASH
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemigeno

Quote from: 62 Max on March 10, 2009, 08:36:37 AM
Gene,is the car you are refering to at Carlisle the one that was sitting on a trailer about 6/7 years ago that looked as if it had been used in a demo derby?

Bill,

I've forgotten when Steve said he took the car, but it was a good while back - at LEAST the 6-7 years you mentioned since I've known him for 3-4 years.  He wasn't really asking killer money for the car at the time, but got tired of people telling him that he had a fake/incorrect fender tag and that the car wasn't worth anything close to the asking price at the time.  He does have the car's Broadcast Sheet, so the car's pedigree is about as confirmed as you can get.  That's still not enough for some people though  :brickwall:   The car hasn't been back since and he doesn't talk about it too much to people he doesn't know.

Do you have any pictures of the car you saw?  Here are some pictures I have of the car:


hemigeno

... and some other saved FK5 Bird pictures as requested by Justin:










pettybird

Quote from: nascarxx29 on March 10, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
The earliest FK5 superbird accounting or ordering . I found was from this Aug 80 article from Carl Hall who originally ordered the FK5 superbird using the Inquiry #4923..mentioned  here in last part of the newsletter MOPAR PAINT CODE FLASH

did he order it new?  it didn't say so.  even if he did order the car I think the others were typos...again, 2-3 other people ordering the same odd color that's one letter off from a standard color on a QWERTY keyboard?  we're not talking a batch of FC7 or FM3 or FF4 or TX9...

nascarxx29

I believe Carl Hall was the original owner .The window sticker on the FK5 superbird .Is Tenn I think.The others and how they came to be is there own individual unique story
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69_500

I tend to think along the lines with Doug on this one and that someone made a typo on one sheet at the start of an order form, and no one questioned it as the car was coming down the line. I mean you could get a RR in FK5 so why would anyone not just do what the broadcast sheet and others said right?

moparstuart

Quote from: 69_500 on March 10, 2009, 04:51:06 PM
I tend to think along the lines with Doug on this one and that someone made a typo on one sheet at the start of an order form, and no one questioned it as the car was coming down the line. I mean you could get a RR in FK5 so why would anyone not just do what the broadcast sheet and others said right?
typo  :yesnod: me to , if anyone could have just ordered other colors there would have been at least a few more non-standard colors running around   :Twocents: :Twocents:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

69_500

Well Dave is also right in that there is a document showing how one could have ordered a different color other than the 7 that were set out for the Superbirds. But what are the odds of a dealership actually having access to that document in the short time frame one would have had to actually order one rather than just taking the one they had on the lot?

maxwellwedge

The painters could of read it wrong as well. Do these cars have FK5 on their buildsheets?

69_500

I know the one does, but haven't seen the broadcast sheet to the others. I don't recall if the Dave Jones car had a sheet or not, or just the fender tag, but I know the fender tag said FK5.

62 Max

Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 10, 2009, 05:07:48 PM
The painters could of read it wrong as well. Do these cars have FK5 on their buildsheets?

Its east to mistake a E for an F

UFO

The petty blue color is not on the list.