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Well, I see the justice system in Canada is just as idiotic as it is in the US

Started by bull, March 05, 2009, 01:52:55 PM

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bull

This guy should have been swinging from the nearest tree a long time ago. Sounds like the trial was a complete joke.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29530465/

No jail for man who beheaded bus passenger
Judge declares him insane and orders treatment in mental institution

WINNIPEG, Manitoba - A Canadian judge ruled Thursday that a man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a fellow Greyhound bus passenger is not criminally responsible due to mental illness.

The decision means Chinese immigrant Vince Li will be treated in a mental institution instead of going to prison. The victim's family dismissed the trial as a "rubber stamp" that allows Li to get away with murder.

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skip68

I can see treatment for a cold.  :yesnod:  Treatment for for smoking.   :yesnod:  Even treatment for drugs.  But, treatment for cutting off a persons head ?  Just how do you treat that ?   :smilielol: :smilielol: :rofl:   :rotz:
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It's unbelievable. Who cares if he is mental or not...he should be in jail. :rotz:
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QuoteWell, I see the justice system in Canada is just as idiotic as it is in the US

You are wrong Curtis  -  it's worse!

Mike DC

             
He might really be insane.  This sentence is fine with me.



But they'd better not declare him sane in 5 or 6 years and release him again.

 

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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 05, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
             
He might really be insane.  This sentence is fine with me.



But they'd better not declare him sane in 5 or 6 years and release him again.

 
Sad but this does happen...alot

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Quote from: captnsim on March 05, 2009, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 05, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
             
He might really be insane.  This sentence is fine with me.



But they'd better not declare him sane in 5 or 6 years and release him again.

 
Sad but this does happen...alot


Especially in Canada.  You might be okay with it Mike but as someone whose taxes wil help to "treat" this poor fellow I have a somewhat different opinion.  :flame:

bull

Quote from: Ghoste on March 05, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
Quote from: captnsim on March 05, 2009, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 05, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
             
He might really be insane.  This sentence is fine with me.



But they'd better not declare him sane in 5 or 6 years and release him again.

 
Sad but this does happen...alot


Especially in Canada.  You might be okay with it Mike but as someone whose taxes wil help to "treat" this poor fellow I have a somewhat different opinion.  :flame:

Yea. Insane or not the guy is human waste and should be eliminated just on basic principal.

vancamp

can someone explain this to me, a person cuts off the head of another in full view of witnesses and he gets off by pleading insanity, doesnt killing someone pretty much confirm your insane :shruggy: he should get the death penalty period, no waste of tax dollars rehabilitating,or feeding him in jail, if he is crazy enough and capable of killing he should be taken out of the population and gene pool permanently. :Twocents:

Mike DC




Insanity is not the same thing as being evil.


Oh yeah, I'd agree that sometimes evil people hide behind insanity pleas.  For sure.  But I'm just saying that doesn't equate the two conditions. 


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  That's right along the lines of a different article i read, which i thought must be a misprint because it said there was only one prosecution witness.

Nice job prosecutor  :brickwall:   You think maybe somebody who witnessed it would want to testify ?  I guess if the defense  agrees to the stipulation of facts by the prosecution, legally speaking, they don't need to call any witnesses.

  He may as well move to WA state after he gets out, there will certainly never be a death penalty here again after the "green river killer"  traded some body locations for death penalty immunity.
   Meaning if you can kill 30+ people without getting the electric chair, certainly nobody can be given capital punishment for only killing one or three people....
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Ghoste

I guess for me it isn't about whether or not they are truly insane or even rehabilitation, but I would like to know who we serve by rehabilitating this guy?  His mother?  God?  Society at large?  The warm and fuzzy crowd who feel he was likely misunderstood as a child?  Perhaps just mental health professionals?
I don't know personally but I do know for damned sure we don't serve the victims family or the deceased.  I would agree that many prison sentences are arguably all death penalty ones are about revenge and that I speak from that standpoint.  Right or wrong, can any of you really and truthfully look in your heart and tell me that if some fringe dweller from the fabric of generally accepted normal society kills, rapes, decapitates, mutilates, cannibalizes, or whatever someone you love, that you would be alright with just putting them in a nice hospital for a little while where the gentle doctors can talk them out of their sickness?

bull

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 06, 2009, 04:03:46 AM



Insanity is not the same thing as being evil.


Oh yeah, I'd agree that sometimes evil people hide behind insanity pleas.  For sure.  But I'm just saying that doesn't equate the two conditions. 



It shouldn't matter. Insane or not he should be killed, just like when a dog kills a couple chickens or attacks a person. Instead he now becomes a straw man to someone's cause, a living experiment, a litmus test in the criminal psychology field and a feel-good project to those who feel guilty for being normal. It's pure stupidity, irresponsibility and foolishness to allow him to breathe the same air we do.

skip68

I'd want them dead !  I'd be going to prison.   :yesnod:  Just like the guys that rape children,  :flame: they should be dead, then you know they will never do it again.  Death would be a better place for these people. They will never be right for this world just like a dog that has the taste for blood.  It may be a good, nice dog, but still a killer and must be put down to protect the innocent.   Just my  :Twocents:
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Ghoste

And I think there is also a good argument to be made that insanity and evil are in fact the same.

71_deputy

THIS GUY MUSTA BEEN KNOW FOR A LONG TIME THAT HE IS NOT NORMAL!!!!

someone has let him roam around with society knowing is is nuts- send that one away too so that others will not roam around to hurt or kill as well!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: skip68 on March 06, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
I'd want them dead !  I'd be going to prison.   :yesnod:  Just like the guys that rape children,  :flame: they should be dead, then you know they will never do it again.  Death would be a better place for these people. They will never be right for this world just like a dog that has the taste for blood.  It may be a good, nice dog, but still a killer and must be put down to protect the innocent.   Just my  :Twocents:

I agree. But it must be a slow and painful death.

RECHRGD

Shouldn't Al Kiada (sp?) be the ones to carry out the proper sentence? :shruggy: :shruggy:
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Whoever the defending prosecutor was...the judge should have ruled that this waste of skin would spend the first 6 months of his incarceration at HIS house. Then we'd see how willing that prosecutor would be to try & get the next "crazy" person off on an insanity plea.

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Under the current system, executing a prisoner takes a hell of a lot more of our tax money than incarcerating them for life.   

I'm not interested in supporting capital punishment until that gets fixed.
 
   

Ghoste

For me it'd be a better use of my tax dollars even if it's more; I'd rather pay 1 dollar for a fresh apple than 25 cents for a rotten one.  I wonder if it's the actual execution that costs more or is it more when they also add in the several years of prison time and multiple appearances back in the court system for their appeals?
Besides, what this guy got is about as far removed from capital punishment as it gets.  Taking into account that we have no capital punishment in Canada (which to me means there should be an even more severe "life" sentence for murder-and there isn't), he was basically given a time out like a toddler not knowing its wrong to put glue in his sisters hair.