1969 Daytona in Australia or Iran

[nascarxx29]

I seen that other post with the Iran car ??.But I recalled this right hand drive Aussie daytona had same grill.look at the nose grill on the Iran car .This car in now in the US and blue .Belongs to John Pappas same grille

[nascarxx29]

Now compare this to Johns car same grill
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6787.0.html


Daytona in Iran post
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,54283.0.html

[maxwellwedge]

Those rear tires make that car look like a "Zinger". Good spot on the grill.

[nascarxx29]

Thanks its all in the details .I can recall from car to car

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_81726-Dodge-Charger-Daytona-1969.html

[tan top]

wow Good spot , on the grill    coincidence 
both very hot country's though    or same car 

[maxwellwedge]

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_81726-Dodge-Charger-Daytona-1969.htm

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_81726-Dodge-Charger-Daytona-1969.html

Wow - Dave you are the Funk and Wagnalls of this forum!

[OneBadSuperbird]

OK, y'all can out all the conspiracy theories to bed now. 

In all my conversations with the previous owner of the Aussie Daytona, the car was in Australia from 1973-4 right on up til I imported it back to the U.S. in 2003. 

Keep in mind that the Aussie Daytona ceased to look like it did in the pics shown when it was completely disassembled in 1998 and the body put back to stock and the car painted in the Ford Blue that it is now. 

Now here's something for y'all to ponder.  Was there EVER a Daytona in Iran or is this an old pic of my Daytona and some bozo started an urban legend that there was a Daytona in Iran.  That sounds a bit more believable to me.  Ya gotta keep in mind that this IS the internet and that rumors can start very easily.

[Aero426]

wow Good spot , on the grill    coincidence 
both very hot country's though    or same car 

The grilles are similar but not the same.  The alleged Iran car does not have the running lights on the bottom of the nose either.    The Iran car was also shown in the same piece with a Mustang that had furrin' license plates.

[hemigeno]

Now here's something for y'all to ponder.  Was there EVER a Daytona in Iran or is this an old pic of my Daytona and some bozo started an urban legend that there was a Daytona in Iran.  That sounds a bit more believable to me.  Ya gotta keep in mind that this IS the internet and that rumors can start very easily.

John, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. 

[Aero426]

If they are the same car, it's hard to believe the derelict photo would be taken BEFORE the ones of the car in it's custom finery.   If it was taken after, why is are the grille bars speced different, the paint different, the wheel chrome reappeared and no flares on the rear quarters? 

[maxwellwedge]

Hmmm - The way it is backed into the garage leaves me to believe that the steering wheel is on the left side. Who is going to park it (pushing or under its own power) with the steering wheel side up against that wall?

[hemigeno]

The turn signals under the headlight buckets is a give-away in my book though, as is the exact-match shape of the grille opening and the Hella-style driving lights behind the grille.  Wouldn't argue the point about how it's parked in the garage, but it does make you think.  I agree with Doug, the "derelict" picture had to have been taken before the car was customized with the monster tires, stripes, etc.

OneBadSuperbird posted more than a few pictures of the car's current condition as well as some details about the car's Aussie conversion (including the details on why the turn signals were relocated) on this thread:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,23551.0/all.html

[arrow]

There was  an orange 70 Boss 302 Mustang that left Wyoming and went to Iran in 1971`, Amoco oil co. transferred alot of pet. engineers over there and it was common for them to ship cars over there . the guy with the Boss sold there , so a Daytona is a real possibility .

[nascarxx29]

In both pictures.The turn signals same locations grilles are similar but same grille size opening.The other coincedence is that Tim L with the green roll over daytona is in Australia

[tan top]

  theres not a iran   or something that sounds / spelt like it in Australia ,  like county .. etc etc & who ever posted that picture up ... did not post the whole info or got the place name wrong ...

[hemigeno]

There was  an orange 70 Boss 302 Mustang that left Wyoming and went to Iran in 1971`, Amoco oil co. transferred alot of pet. engineers over there and it was common for them to ship cars over there . the guy with the Boss sold there , so a Daytona is a real possibility .

I agree, it could have happened - and I don't think anyone here is arguing that it wasn't at least hypothetically possible.  The question is whether this particular picture (supposedly taken in Iran) is actually of a car whose history has absolutely nothing to do with Iran.

[UFO]

Now here's something for y'all to ponder.  Was there EVER a Daytona in Iran or is this an old pic of my Daytona and some bozo started an urban legend that there was a Daytona in Iran.  That sounds a bit more believable to me.  Ya gotta keep in mind that this IS the internet and that rumors can start very easily.

John, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. 

   So much cool'r on line.
Sounds like country song.LOL

[OneBadSuperbird]

I agree, it could have happened - and I don't think anyone here is arguing that it wasn't at least hypothetically possible.  The question is whether this particular picture (supposedly taken in Iran) is actually of a car whose history has absolutely nothing to do with Iran.

Precisely.  There may possibly have been a Daytona in Iran (although it's still most likely nothing more than an urban legend) but the history of the Aussie Daytona sitting out in my garage is very well known and very well documented. 

The car went from the original selling dealer in Independence, Missouri to somewhere outside Tulsa, Oklahoma where it was bought by Kevin Monk.  The car was then driven to L.A. where it was loasded on to a ship for the boat ride to Australia.  It then spent the next 30 years there.  It never left Australia til it got loaded back on a ship for the ride back to the U.S.

IF, and this is a big IF, that's the same car, it could be a pic of the car shortly after it arrived in Australia in 1973-74.  Oklahoma can get just as hot as Australia and the grille opening may have been enlarged by someone in Oklahoma back in the day cuz the car was running hot.

In any event, this particular car was never in raghead-land.

[nascarxx29]

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,23551.msg256370/topicseen.html#msg256370

[bigcountry]

I don't know about Iran, but I did see a Red '68 R/T with a black stripe in Kuwait last year(2008).

[Red Ram]

You guys talking about the "Ayatollah Daytona"?

[Aero426]

This is the original story posted on the German Mustang website several years ago.

http://www.ponysite.de/ironyard.htm

[nascarxx29]

And going by the turn signal placement and grille size opening.Not to mention the color of the car.We have concluded it to be the Aussie daytona.But first glance at the grille .I knew I seen it somewhere before

[Aero426]

And going by the turn signal placement and grille size opening.Not to mention the color of the car.We have concluded it to be the Aussie daytona.But first glance at the grille .I knew I seen it somewhere before

I don't think it's the Aussie Daytona at all.     The grille size is similar and has driving lights, but the grille bars themselves are different.  Derelict has no quarter flares or lamps below the headlights.   Aussie car does not appear to have louvers across the bottom of the nose.   I have a hard time believing the derelict photo came before the retro custom photos.

[WingCharger]

And going by the turn signal placement and grille size opening.Not to mention the color of the car.We have concluded it to be the Aussie daytona.But first glance at the grille .I knew I seen it somewhere before

Just to be clear, I don't think it's the Aussie Daytona at all.   

The guy, Monk, who bought the Daytona and took it down to Australia was a well known customizer. He ran a entire business doing it in the '70s. I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt he would have taken all the effort to import a car from the U.S., do all that work, then let it rot in a barn. Not to mention it was the only freakin' Daytona in Australia, so I'm sure a long list of people would have loved to own it. Even in the late '70s when Monk stopped driving it, he stored it inside his shop starting it often.