How many black Daytona's out there???

[XS29J]

Any one have color breakdowns on daytona's??
Black and red would be my favorite....

[Aero426]

Not many black ones out there.   I only have 6 recorded in the registry, but I'm sure there are a few more that I just don't have color information recorded.   

V2 Hemi Orange is the most common Daytona color with 70 cars registered so far.
R4 red is second most common Daytona color with 69 cars registered.   
R6 which is more of a blood red is quite rare with only 6 registry entries.

I have not compared these numbers to Galen's list that he published around 1992.    If someone has that, please chime in.   You can get an idea of the percentages involved with the above numbers. 

[nascarxx29]

Start here XX29L9B409044 is a true X9 car

[Aero426]

Start here XX29L9B409044 is a true X9 car

That makes 7.   Thanks Dave.  is it auto or 4-speed?

[nascarxx29]

Car sold new from Glauser Motors Vineland NJ automatic 440 car

[nascarxx29]

I will check my notes for more Hemo genos friend I think had one .I have paperwork for same car.Car sold new from Welch motors VA

[hemigeno]

That makes 7. 

I only have 7 cars logged as originally X9 also, could be the same ones but I think I'm missing the X9/C6W Hemi 4-speed car that went to England.  So far, I have two X9 red gut cars - James L.'s and our very own 3--Daytona's.

Car sold new from Glauser Motors Vineland NJ automatic 440 car

Dave, I had that one listed as having a white interior, and having last surfaced in Tomball, TX.  Was that not the case?  My notes also say that the car had a K-frame and Hemi taken from a stripped-out C500 (you can also see the chrome valve cover in the picture you posted), but it's been a long time since I wrote that note.  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I have 4 in my little collection....1 of them is a Hemi

[hemi68charger]

Start here XX29L9B409044 is a true X9 car

My neck of the woods....... Last time I talked to the owner, who I've lost his contact info He still had it. An original 440 car with a Hemi shoved in it.. I at one time offered a trade for the '68 for it.. I hear it's a major rust project from Jersey? Would love to have it, as would most everyone.. 

Troy

[moparstuart]

Start here XX29L9B409044 is a true X9 car

My neck of the woods....... Last time I talked to the owner, who I've lost his contact info He still had it. An original 440 car with a Hemi shoved in it.. I at one time offered a trade for the '68 for it.. I hear it's a major rust project from Jersey? Would love to have it, as would most everyone.. 

Troy

Havent you offered everone to trade LOL

[nascarxx29]

I had found this guy when I lived in Houston TX in the mid 80-s .But allways knew about the daytona from NJ.Just didnt put the 2 cars together as the one and the same that far apart NJ to TX.I went to Jersey village part of TX .And met up with Rick Boen who had the superbird I got off him.Not knowing he had a daytona until .I had the superbird .But for sometime I tried to get it less 426 hemi engine he said was from a wrecked X9 charger 500.I tried many deal combinations less or with426 engine or trade for my R4 car etc deal trade.But he never wanted to sell the daytona even when I got the superbird  .As I wanted a X9 black daytona with white interior as this one was .Rick worked as a service manager at Tomball ford on route 149.in Tomball TX.I called regulary from NJ and asked about the daytona and 70 Big block Chevelle parked next each other.Up and after I had the R4 car.Then I fell off in contact.He is a nice guy and he drove the car from NJ to TX .Which is a ride .I did it several times buying cars in Houston and driving to NJ with them.I had found out by seeing the daytonas NJ inspection sticker and what town Rick mentioned he got it from Rio Grande NJ .When he showed it to me .That this car was from South Jersey .Near the Wildwoods.The shore area the car had the backwindow and rear half eaten by salt area exposure.Rio grande is real close by to Wildwood.So the area known shore eaten daytona goes to TX .And I cross its path again what are the odds.Also I know who has the J Lucy X9 red int car.But has different owner .Troy I have Rick B Address and phone number on my old car papers,Unless he has moved.You need them Pm me

[nascarxx29]

I did find a stack of documentation for a 440 X9 car from shipping memorandum to window sticker and copy of the buildsheet.That was sent to me from a friend wanting to buy this car alongtime back .When the car was in Alabama to photograph and inspect XX29L9B [[[[[[405187]]]]]].Its was paid for by Virginia national bank.Sold to P D Welch & Company Selma Rd Orange VA .And optioned as {A36 performance axle package [B51 power brakes] [C21 center front seat with armrest] [D34Torque flite trans [D56 3.55 axle ratio] [E86 440] [R11 am radio]  [S77 PS] [V88 stripe delete [W21 road wheels] [Y39 special order] [T82 whitewalls]  409 destination charge

Quote earlier by Hemi Geno I know of another one that is probably completely or very nearly restored by now.  They were just starting the resto this time last year.

440/727, X9 exterior & interior, Red stripe.  [[[[405187]]]]]], owned by Tom A.

The pic below was taken 1/12/05, when I was visiting a friend's resto shop in Wisconsin:End of quote

[69_500]

Side note here guys but there was a X9 HEMI 500 that was in Tomball TX for many years. And it is 248663 if anyone remembers that car.

Isn't Elmer's car a factory X9 car as well? I was thinking that the last figure I saw for X9 Daytonas was 11. Not sure why but that # seems to come to mind for X9 cars.

[hemi68charger]

Start here XX29L9B409044 is a true X9 car

My neck of the woods....... Last time I talked to the owner, who I've lost his contact info He still had it. An original 440 car with a Hemi shoved in it.. I at one time offered a trade for the '68 for it.. I hear it's a major rust project from Jersey? Would love to have it, as would most everyone.. 

Troy

Havent you offered everone to trade LOL

ONLY if it were a XX29 with a wing...... 

[Aero426]

Side note here guys but there was a X9 HEMI 500 that was in Tomball TX for many years. And it is 248663 if anyone remembers that car.

Isn't Elmer's car a factory X9 car as well? I was thinking that the last figure I saw for X9 Daytonas was 11. Not sure why but that # seems to come to mind for X9 cars.

Yes, Elmer's is a real X9 car.

[nascarxx29]

There that pace car from louisana .I turned up I believe is a black car
http://www.oldshreveport.com/_wsn/page4.html   Date on picture Oct 69


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,44622.0.html

[nascarxx29]

Going on cars Ive seen wingcar newsletters and board discussions following best accounting from various sources  of X9 black daytonas 426 and 440    XX29L9B379741 440 AT X9 Black and very good chance the Pace car dated Oct 69 from Hutton Dodge XX29J9B383268 426 4 speed blk interior XX29L9B400566 440 4 speed  XX29L9B400575 AT 440 Red interior XX29L9B405187 Auto 440 XX29J9B405189 426 4 speed XX29L9B409044 Auto white Int 440 XX29L9B414652 4 speed Red interior XX29J9B414660 426 auto. Comes out to 5 AT 440 and Hemi. And 4 4 speeds .There also car painted black daytonas that didnt get accounted .I know J Services 426 daytona is black but a V2 car.same goes for the former A4 XX29L9B402971.column auto silver daytona that was painted black.Also looking for more and double checking info to get it as accurate as I can at this time

[Aero426]

So that would make nine of them known so far, at least by us.   

[hemigeno]

XX29L9B379741 440 AT X9 Black and very good chance the Pace car dated Oct 69 from Hutton Dodge XX29J9B383268 426 4 speed blk interior

Dave,  The '79 WW had 379741 listed as a "Gold Metallic" car (Y4?), and 383268 as a B5 Blue car.  Were these actually X9?  Any tag information to confirm these changes?  The other cars you've listed are the same as I have recorded.

[nascarxx29]

Narrowing down the Pace car by Hutton dodge and shiplist and vin.to 379741.Which appears black in the .Oct 69 picture And having seen or knowing of very limited Y4 gold daytona as like Carl swansons and Steve Kliens.As Elmer changed a black daytona to lime green .Maybe a chance he changed a black car to gold?.Maybe Doug or someone in WI that seen Elmers car would know if that took place

XX29J9B383268 was Jim Radke black hemi daytona that went to Monteverdi in England wasnt it? And this car here.But it shows in 79 Henry Watkins Bright blue.aside from known black 4 speed hemi daytona Jim Radke Hemi daytona and Don Hicks 426 4 speeds.Is there anymore other then pictured bellow .And X Don Hicks now Steve Foxs daytona seen at carlisle at the Jacobs tent 

http://wwnboa.org/mmfr.htm

[nascarxx29]

So does this mean XX29J9B405189 Don Hicks currently Steve foxs daytona is the only true hemi 4 speed daytona?.And Jim Radkes car that was restored by Roger Gibson and sold to Monteverdi in England .Isnt a true X9 Black 426 4 speed daytona .And this account of the daytona that was black and painted spray can white Didnt happen.As it reads in here
http://wwnboa.org/mmfr.htm

[Aero426]

I have it that J383268 and J405189 are both 4-speed cars

[Charger-Bodie]

I am hoping to check out Elmers Daytona tommorow while Im at his salvage yard picking up a pick-up box.

[hemigeno]

See if he remembers anything about the other Daytona(s) that he's owned - specifically about the dark colored one from Hutton-Donaldson which may have been used as a pace car (379741).

[69_500]

Hey Brian, as him if he would mind a man from Indiana swinging up to check out his Daytona in the future as well. That is one car that I haven't seen in forever. I think the only time I saw the car was probably in 82-83. I remember going with my dad up there to visit him one weekend and that was it.

[nascarxx29]

Waiting to see what new info develops on the X9 Daytonas 9. Has been a long standing number

[maxwellwedge]

I heard a story of a fellow out in British Columbia who died a few years ago and had a Black Hemi. I think his name was Brian with a french sounding last name beginning with a D i believe. I tried all I could to contact his family. Some dude out there was trying to sell it for all the wood ++ so he could get another car he had for free.

[hemigeno]

Jim,

You haven't heard of a fella by the name of Ryan Dedeaux have you?  I have a reason for asking...

[maxwellwedge]

I think the last name I was trying to remember was Delanger or something like that. I can't say I know your guy.

Delangchamps?

[3--Daytona]

    Hi;; About all I can tell you about black Daytona's,, is there was nine orginal..I've always told so anyway.
My Daytona is X9-,,,XX29L9B414652---black-440--4sp--red interior--red wing
  Acording to the (GURUE),it is the only Daytona known to existwith these spec,. Got the fender tag to prove it.
3--daytona

[69_500]

Way off the beaten path here but I thought I had heard a number for black daytona's being over 10, and after about 45 minutes of searching through papers here on the desk, letters, and other things I finally found it and I'm sad to say I spent that much time looking.

all the info I can find says 9, with only one exception. A note from Mike from Dayclona saying that they made 15. Anyone else heard this?

[maxwellwedge]

    Hi;; About all I can tell you about black Daytona's,, is there was nine orginal..I've always told so anyway.
My Daytona is X9-,,,XX29L9B414652---black-440--4sp--red interior--red wing
  Acording to the (GURUE),it is the only Daytona known to existwith these spec,. Got the fender tag to prove it.
3--daytona

I don't have the list right here but that is a Canadian one - Where was it sold?

[UFO]

I don't have the list right here but that is a Canadian one - Where was it sold?
[/quote]

Century Motors
Winnipeg,Manitoba

[69_500]

You nailed it.

Was drag raced  by them very early on, and then later drag raced by others.

[UFO]

This is what it used to look like.

[XS29J]

    Hi;; About all I can tell you about black Daytona's,, is there was nine orginal..I've always told so anyway.
My Daytona is X9-,,,XX29L9B414652---black-440--4sp--red interior--red wing
  Acording to the (GURUE),it is the only Daytona known to existwith these spec,. Got the fender tag to prove it.
3--daytona

Yours is SPECTACULAR!!!! And I mean it. I had the opportunity to see it FRI. It will be a real SHOW stopper.   Jeff in ND.

[UFO]

Not many black ones out there.   I only have 6 recorded in the registry, but I'm sure there are a few more that I just don't have color information recorded.   

V2 Hemi Orange is the most common Daytona color with 70 cars registered so far.
R4 red is second most common Daytona color with 69 cars registered.   
R6 which is more of a blood red is quite rare with only 6 registry entries.

I have not compared these numbers to Galen's list that he published around 1992.    If someone has that, please chime in.   You can get an idea of the percentages involved with the above numbers. 

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[nascarxx29]

 Black hemi daytona
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25389.msg276413/topicseen.html#msg276413

[FJMG]

   As a side note here I notice that in 92 GG had 37 hemis known back then, coincidentally very similar to the # of J-code's showing up on the relatively recent release of a shipping list. Interestingly enough the 33 or so J-code VIN's that do not show up on the shipping list have not seem to have surfaced on any other "lists". I have always believed the "70" # but what paperwork did it originate from?

[69_500]

Anyone else notice that the number of Daytona's known as far as engine break down vastly outnumbers the number of known in the color bracket as well? I know that for the information I have on 500's it is like that, due to not knowing for certain what colors the 500's came in originally. But I notice that in his list he breaks down what transmission is for each engine for a number more than he has for colors. Just wondering how one would know for sure unless they were all numbers matching cars? Because it is possible to weld in a 4 speed hump floor pan, and have it go unnoticed.

[Magnumcharger]

Here is one on display at Wellington Motors in Guelph, Ontario.
Neatest car dealer I've ever seen! They actually have their own Chrysler museum in the back of the building.

[Magnumcharger]

A couple more:

[Aero426]

I believe that car is this car from the 1980 Baltimore meet.   I had it as an original F8 car, but that could be incorrect.

[Magnumcharger]

Looks better in black!

[Magnumcharger]

A couple more, of the previously mentioned.

[nascarxx29]

XX29L9B379741 440 AT X9 Black and very good chance the Pace car dated Oct 69 from Hutton Dodge XX29J9B383268 426 4 speed blk interior

Dave,  The '79 WW had 379741 listed as a "Gold Metallic" car (Y4?), and 383268 as a B5 Blue car.  Were these actually X9?  Any tag information to confirm these changes?  The other cars you've listed are the same as I have recorded.

Has it been definately concluded that 383268 is the Radke Correct coded X9 car in England,And what about Elmer D 379741 car .Is it the pace car and X9

[Beep Beep Dave]

I believe that car is this car from the 1980 Baltimore meet.   I had it as an original F8 car, but that could be incorrect.

Wow you guys are good. I talked to the long time owner on a few times over the years. The car was F8 and then white and now the black as it is today. I can't remember all the details but I think he resprayed it black at least twice?
Anyway it sold to the dealership late summer or fall of this past year.
Cool car for sure, and a another nice Daytona owner!

Dave

[Magnumcharger]

Must be a very dark mix of F8!

[nascarxx29]

I show in old 1979 records.a Peter N of Guelph Ont owned a F8 XX29L9B414630

[nascarxx29]

XX29L9B379741 440 AT X9 Black and very good chance the Pace car dated Oct 69 from Hutton Dodge XX29J9B383268 426 4 speed blk interior

Dave,  The '79 WW had 379741 listed as a "Gold Metallic" car (Y4?), and 383268 as a B5 Blue car.  Were these actually X9?  Any tag information to confirm these changes?  The other cars you've listed are the same as I have recorded.

Has it been definately concluded that 383268 is the Radke Correct coded X9 car in England,And what about Elmer D 379741 car .Is it the pace car and X9

Has there been any new related info on these 2 or any other black X9 daytonas to date

[avengnce]

My Dads is black . originally it was a blue but it faded in the frist few months . He had the factory repaint it black right after he bought it . Ill have to check on the vin numbers for sure though . But it is black for as long as I can remember and all pics I have seen from the 70's .

[Aero426]

My Dads is black . originally it was a blue but it faded in the frist few months . He had the factory repaint it black right after he bought it . Ill have to check on the vin numbers for sure though . But it is black for as long as I can remember and all pics I have seen from the 70's .

Is this the Ron Moon car?

[avengnce]

thats the one . My Dads

[Norther_EV2]

I think there was a black hemi with a white wing, dog dishs with maybe white walls at Edmonton Alberta Powerama. A friend had a picture of it. Haven't seen it since.

[XS29J]

This just popped up on MOPARTS>>> BLACK/RED!!!!!!!

for sale 1969 dodge daytona,2 owner,complete car with extra parts,needs full restoration, numbers match with paper work. original black with red interior 440 auto, send name and number when replying.. $350-k musclecar89@aol.com

[hemi68charger]

This just popped up on MOPARTS>>> BLACK/RED!!!!!!!

for sale 1969 dodge daytona,2 owner,complete car with extra parts,needs full restoration, numbers match with paper work. original black with red interior 440 auto, send name and number when replying.. $350-k musclecar89@aol.com

Needs full restoration at $350K? My '68 Hemi Charger just increased in value................... 

[nascarxx29]

That $350K daytona sounds alot like the old James Lucy daytona.Update because it is Im surprised hes selling after all these years.He got a nose and fenders from my friend back in the 80-s.that came from Bill Stechs daytona


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for sale 1969 dodge daytona,2 owner,complete car with extra parts,needs full restoration, numbers match with paper work. original black with red interior 440 auto, send name and number when replying.. $350-k musclecar89@aol.com 

[69_500]

Some is a little off on their asking price if they think a project car is a $350K car. I would find it hard to believe that even if that car had just come off of a fresh restoration they would be getting 80% of that asking price.

[nascarxx29]

Its one a few X9 black daytonas out there .It has red interior and red stripe.

[69_500]

So you think its worth $350K just because its one of the few X9 Daytona's out there Dave? To me colors are nice, but they don't add or decrease a value to a car. Its a Daytona, its 1 of 501 (I know the number is 503 supposedly but I think the shipment list is a little flawed) does it matter what color it is? I mean does this mean that a Y4 Gold car is worth more than a V2 orange car because there are more V2's? And if so does it warrant a tripling of the money?

[nascarxx29]

As much as I like the color combo .I agree its not worth the asking price.But if its the last known black car to be had .There might be a bidding war. .And this car is not sitting all intact and untouched as mine was .Its totally disassembled.If any color daytona was going to out price another daytona.It would be a another Ohama orange car

[69_500]

How do you figure its the last known black car to be had? There are more known black cars out there than just this one, and there is at least 1 other known black car that can be bought at this current time.

[nascarxx29]

I take you word for it .9 has been long standing .Of those nine few have to be red interior

[69_500]

I can't think of but 1 other X9 car that has red interior, which would be Jim's car. But I was not trying to argue, just making a comment dave. That if there are known X9 cars out there then it won't be the last one that is ever up for sale. Elmers car is still for sale as far as I know, factory X9 car.

Color is great, and being X9 it is a desirable color, but no logic to asking a 100% mark up over a restored car. When the car in question is in pieces mind you.

[nascarxx29]

 :Twocents:Just never know what these cars will do.

I never thought I see a cloned superbird as the year one car do $501 K

[hemi-hampton]

Was this one added to the count? LEON.