finally tracked it all down...

[SFRT]

for the Scow:




soon I order the cam and get the heads done.

my 'engine guru' tells me I will get another 80 hp.

plus I think its pretty.

[skip68]

   YAAAAA baby.   

[SFRT]

'69 production 440 crossram. so cool it's the 'right year'.

[BB1]

You Suck! 

[RD]

i never knew they had a production '69 crossram for a 440 out.. only for the hemi.

either way, that is beautiful and will look awesome on  your car.

[Dans 68]

Very nice. Are you still taking the Scow to MATS, and will it be installed (I'm guessing no...but I had to ask  ) ? I'm going to try to make the MOPower tour out of L.A., and meet up with the caravan at Barstow. Be  to see you both there.

Dan

[SFRT]

I dont think its a factory piece, but it definately fits  440 and my 'expert moper engine' buddy says its edelbrock from 1969 and apparentley  quite rare. 12 bolt top. it has no numbers or markings. it looks like the str-15 for the 383 but is just a wee bit 'wider'

all I know is that it is in perfect shape and fits!

wOOt!

[tan top]

i never knew they had a production '69 crossram for a 440 out.. only for the hemi.

either way, that is beautiful and will look awesome on  your car.

no never knew this either    awesome piece  of hardware  

[SFRT]

Very nice. Are you still taking the Scow to MATS, and will it be installed (I'm guessing no...but I had to ask  ) ? I'm going to try to make the MOPower tour out of L.A., and meet up with the caravan at Barstow. Be  to see you both there.

Dan

if the weather is clear yes me and Saul will be driving our cars down( he's got a purple 1970 hemicuda). if the wether is shitty I will drive my truck. I wont be installing this for a while I need to save up some $$$$ for the new cam and headwork. I also hope to find some parts at MATS, so I have a little dough stashed for that.

[mauve66]

its a edelbrock str 14 , and probably will say mopar on it but its not factory that i know of, edelbrock made them for small blocks str 12 , b str 15 blocks and Rb blocks str 14
i have a str 14-6 for a 6pak but they made them also for 4bbl, 2X4bbls, also

if you find an old DC performance book it may have diagrams for modifying to prevent fuel puddles in intake, someone sent me a pic of the diagram for my intake but i don't remember if it was from here, moparchat.com or where

[SFRT]

I have two others I got during the quest, a str 14-45 with a single 4 bbl yop and a

str-15 dual quad for a 383..originally I was going to graft the 383 top on to the 440 bottom, but when I found this that solved the problem.

so if anyones in the market for wither one of those I have them.

[SFRT]

its a edelbrock str 14 , and probably will say mopar on it but its not factory that i know of, edelbrock made them for small blocks str 12 , b str 15 blocks and Rb blocks str 14
i have a str 14-6 for a 6pak but they made them also for 4bbl, 2X4bbls, also

if you find an old DC performance book it may have diagrams for modifying to prevent fuel puddles in intake, someone sent me a pic of the diagram for my intake but i don't remember if it was from here, moparchat.com or where

I have seen the deal where you make a 'spider'  out of aluminum that divides the plenum but yet allows for equal vacuum. I will probably do that.

[mauve66]

far as i can tell the easy way to distinguish them from factory is the factory hemi peice has 2 seperate lids for the ones i've seen whil the eddys seem to have a solid top that opens the whole middle of the intake

sometimes they sell for a lot on ebay sometimes not, i would start the auction at $400 plus unless you had to pay more for them yourself, i've seen them top out at 500-750 before, depejnds on someone seeing it and wanting it that much of course, i haven't found the gasket for the lid yet, have to make my own i guess

[mauve66]

the diagram i got just shows to add a dam on one side and remove another that is cast into the lower intake but leave the same dam on the other side intact sooooo............

[SFRT]

can you post the diagram?

[WingCharger]

THAT IS AWESOME!!

Will a HEMI crossram Linkage be used?

[mauve66]

is MB bigger or KB?? it keeps timing out when i try to post the pic as an attachment, i can email if you want but remember this is stated as being for the str14-6 only

[SFRT]

i dont htink that it will work then, as this setup is dumping onto the sides of the plenum not the middle.

[SFRT]

THAT IS AWESOME!!

Will a HEMI crossram Linkage be used?

no I have an aftermarket linkage kit.

[73TXRallye440]

I have two others I got during the quest, a str 14-45 with a single 4 bbl yop and a

str-15 dual quad for a 383..originally I was going to graft the 383 top on to the 440 bottom, but when I found this that solved the problem.

so if anyones in the market for wither one of those I have them.

for someone uneducated on these, is there any kind of performance gain using them or are they looks only?

[moparstuart]

very nice i love the short ram set up 

[Rolling_Thunder]

from what I understand ov crossram intake manifolds they are for very high rpm use (more power generally) but do not have the driving manners of a single 4bbl intake (dual plane or single plane) - generally you lose low end torque and gain high rpm power...      They do look great - Installed an aluminum crossram on a 64 Polara at work...    ground down and completely polished -  Looked Puuurrrrrdddyyyyy

[mauve66]

50/50, looks and high RPM, fuel puddles at low RPM, or so i have been told, but with the mods and a stroker with some deep breathing heads..........................

[SFRT]

yep. im going to have  the expert dude basically re-set up the cam and heads to make full use of the intake, he says he can get a lot out of it, and I trust him. plus, it just looks so great.

[BB1]

  little smaller

[firefighter3931]

Not to be a party pooper but many have tried to run that manifold on the street with limited sucess. 

As mentioned previously, the low speed manners are terrible and in reality it doesn't work that well up top either. I've studied some Dyno results for that intake and it has a narrow powerband....not ideal for a street car. On one dyno blast the STR 14 lost 80hp vs a modern single 4bbl setup on back to back pulls. 

Honestly, that thing is a cork when installed on a top of a good set of heads and big cam. It does have some visual appeal if that's what you're after. 

Good luck with it.



Ron

[SFRT]

I still have to give it a shot..I am obsessed.

the guy I am working with is pretty much a super-wizard with this stuff and he did the final tune on my current setup and he tells me he can go all the way with this dual setup. if it doesnt work out, I can always go back to what I have now.

[Ghoste]

As far as the "factory" part, they were as mentioned made by Edelbrock and Chrysler would assign them a part number so the part could be legalized for NHRA Super Stock racing.  It was a common rule bending procedure for Detroit.

[mauve66]

what Ghoste said, mine has the edelbrock on a corner then the STR-14-6 on another corner then CHRY 3690187 on another corner

[Silver R/T]

that's a nice setup

[Rolling_Thunder]

little smaller

good call - didn't think it would show up that large