What's up with the Oscars?

[RECHRGD]

Is it just me, or are others sick and tired of these actors and directors getting up on the podium to receive awards and then starting to spout out a bunch of crap pushing their political or sexual hopes and dreams.  When the director of 'Milk' got up to receive his award he couldn't shut up about being gay and how California and the rest of the nation better pass the gay marriage initiative and blah, blah, blah.  Then, of course idiot Shaw Penn wins best actor for the same movie and goes up and does the same thing!  Then they show cuts from the movie showing Penn and some guy graphically making out.  Kids watch this show!  I don't remember there being an 'R' rating notice at the beginning of the show.  It was the same thing a few years ago with that stupid Broke back Mountain movie that won all kinds of awards simply because it was pro gay.  I know I can turn the channel if I want, but the wife wanted to watch it so I did.  Maybe I'm just too old (turned 61 today) to appreciate this new tolerant, enlightened world that we now live in.  Maybe this subject is too political.  Just wish me a happy birthday.  Thanks,  Bob

[defiance]

So would you be mad if it was a guy and a girl making out?  If yes, you need to board up the kids' rooms, throw out all tv's, etc - that's life, and it happens everywhere.  However, if the answer is no, well...  How horrific that the precious children may be exposed to alternate points of view.  Besides the obvious 'maybe you shouldn't be prejudicial toward gays' thing, if you really want to shelter your children from exposure to anything that you disagree with, how are they ever going to learn to think for themselves?  If you believe something is so critically wrong, raise your children to value morality and critical thinking, explain to them why you don't agree with it, and trust them to come to their own conclusions.  If they agree with you, fine.  If you raise them to be intelligent and moral and they don't agree with you, maybe they have good reason for that.

[Ghoste]

Happy birthday Bob and I don't get it either.  Not because I'm anti-gay, its simply that if I wanted to see a political rally then that is what I would watch.  I don't watch the Oscars myself and that is one of the reasons why.  What do you expect though,  you have a group of people who are paid obscene amounts of money to play make believe getting together to pay tribute to themselves for how great they are and how hard it is to be them.  Espousing their personal views in public is about the only way they get to try and convince themselves that they are a part of real life.

[RECHRGD]

So would you be mad if it was a guy and a girl making out?  If yes, you need to board up the kids' rooms, throw out all tv's, etc - that's life, and it happens everywhere.  However, if the answer is no, well...  How horrific that the precious children may be exposed to alternate points of view.  Besides the obvious 'maybe you shouldn't be prejudicial toward gays' thing, if you really want to shelter your children from exposure to anything that you disagree with, how are they ever going to learn to think for themselves?  If you believe something is so critically wrong, raise your children to value morality and critical thinking, explain to them why you don't agree with it, and trust them to come to their own conclusions.  If they agree with you, fine.  If you raise them to be intelligent and moral and they don't agree with you, maybe they have good reason for that.

I can agree with your points at face value, but young children need a good foundation in order to have the tools to intelligently process "alternate points of view".  That's what parenting is all about.  We should not have to be put in the position of trying to explain why Johnny and Tommy are kissing eachother when they are too young to even know what sexuality even is.  I've raised two daughters that are now probably older than you are and they think I did just fine.  BTW, your last sentence is insulting.  Bob

[skip68]

I find it very tacky.  Everyone has an opinion on how they should live and marry and so on and that's fine.  But the awards is not the time nor place for that.  These are stars, they can go out anytime they want and get media attention and speak their mind.       TACKY, TACKY, TACKY.   NO CLASS.     Chuck.......

[bull]

I agree with you, Bob. In the past I've watched it because I was more interested in the results and it was part of my job at the time. Now I don't "have" to watch it so I don't because there's too much of an political agenda involved. Funny how so many of those actors think they're so much smarter than everyone else when in reality the opposite is true. These days it seems the Oscars is just another platform to honor the politically liberal flavor-of-the-month rather than an honest assessment of talent like it used to be. I'm sure that's why the ratings are in the tank.

[Silver R/T]

would have to agree, I don't like gays and nobody has the right to push it on TV shows

[Dans 68]

Happy birthday, Bob!  Have a good one.




...and please don't get me started on the Oscars.... 



Dan

[defiance]

... nobody has the right to push it on TV shows

Actually, your statement is provably false, given that they just did it.

You should know this is very personal to me.  My brother has to deal with persecution in the name of misguided "morality" every day.  His life, his sexuality, and his taste in movies are none of your business.  He's not forcing a damn thing on anyone, but people want to spend so much time trying to tell him what to do.  Why?  So you don't have to watch two dudes kissing on tv?  Or, actually, correction - so you can remove the OPTION (you weren't forced to watch).   OH the HORROR.

[Ponch ®]

Hollywood likes to preen itself on how "progressive" and embracing it is. That's why nowadays playing a gay guy = Oscar nominations. I haven't seen "Milk" nor am I interested in seeing it, so I don't know how good it is. But I have a feeling that if Proposition 8 had not passed in November, academy members might have been less activist when casting their votes.

I wrote a blog about this very subject a couple of years ago, when Brokeback Mountain was all the rage.

[BB1]

What's an Oscar? 

[The70RT]

Happy birthday Bob and I don't get it either.  Not because I'm anti-gay, its simply that if I wanted to see a political rally then that is what I would watch.  I don't watch the Oscars myself and that is one of the reasons why.  What do you expect though,  you have a group of people who are paid obscene amounts of money to play make believe getting together to pay tribute to themselves for how great they are and how hard it is to be them.  Espousing their personal views in public is about the only way they get to try and convince themselves that they are a part of real life.

EXXXAAAAACTTTLYYY!!!!

[Brock Samson]

  I never cared much for the show at all intill this year when i got my new 47 inch Samsung,.. and I had a ball finally seeing it, uninterrupted as every year previous i was at work when it was on and had to listen to everyone and their Momma's baby's daddy's opinion on the pros and cons of the awards show, cause it is all the rage around the water cooler everywhere.
One thing you have to realize about this show is that the Academy Voters are in large part Gay,..
so this is a matter near and dear to their Calif. resident hearts,..
I have had some dealings with Mr. Penn who had a sweetheart deal with our newspaper via Sharon Stone and our Managing editor - her husband,.. Phil Bronstein, to say he is a darling of the liberal west coast media types would be putting it mildly..
BTW: They only have room for 20 or so personalities up there at a time though there are 200 who might be concidered... Part of the job these folks perform is to set an example for us/you - the great unwashed peanut gallery to emulate.
  Anyhow,.. the amount of influence Hoolywood has on the world at large is impossible to overestimate, the fact that they're just now managing to link up with Boollywood via the slumdog millionaire move, shows that sometimes it takes a few years for them to catch up with the rest of the world.
So in closing, there are a couple factors at work here that skew the entire proceedings and make it impossible to reconcile with reality.
They don't call it La La land for nothing. 

[Ponch ®]

 
One thing you have to realize about this show is that the Academy Voters are in large part Gay,..
 

noooooooo....get the fluk outta here...

[NHCharger]

Silver. They make this device called a remote control. Try it out, you might find it useful.
The only person I know that watches this crap is my mother-in-law. These people are so full of themselves it's unbelievable.

Happy B-Day Bob.

Ponch, I find your avatar rather disturbing

[dkn1997]

  I hate politicians , but at least some of them actually had to win an election and they work in politics every day.  So by default, their political views mean something to me.  My big problem with these actors or any other celebrity being "political" is that who the hell are they?  They are no more informed than you or me, yet an alarming amount of people lend credence to them as if they know something or their opinion is somehow more informed or valuable than the average guy on the street.  In fact, it's worth less to me because they are actors, their job is to portray something they are not.  I dont' believe for one second that all of these actors believe the agenda they push..be it left or right wing.  How could you believe someone that gets paid to pretend for a living?

[nh_mopar_fan]

I didn't watch any of it. I was switching through and caught that #1 a-hole Maher presenting the best documentary.

That was great.

He started in about how he had a documentary out too and paused....dead silence. So he went on, it's called Relugiousity and he paused, a single clap ot two.

It was great watching him die a slow death up there.

[Back N Black]

would have to agree, I don't like gays and nobody has the right to push it on TV shows

How can you say you don't like Gays?  have you met everyone of them? 

[rav440]

as much as i like movies , i dont give 2 craps what an actor thinks or has to say on any given point .

actors should shut up and act .

why TEAM AMERICA didnt win an OSCAR years ago is beyond me .  

[Silver R/T]

would have to agree, I don't like gays and nobody has the right to push it on TV shows

How can you say you don't like Gays?  have you met everyone of them? 

Would you want to get shot in the head? How can you say "NO", have you ever been shot in the head?
You see you don't need to experience something to know that you won't like it/wouldn't want it happen to you. Does that make sense?

[Back N Black]

would have to agree, I don't like gays and nobody has the right to push it on TV shows

How can you say you don't like Gays?  have you met everyone of them? 

Would you want to get shot in the head? How can you say "NO", have you ever been shot in the head?
You see you don't need to experience something to know that you won't like it/wouldn't want it happen to you. Does that make point?

Quite different getting shot in the head and being friends with a gay person.

[Silver R/T]

would have to agree, I don't like gays and nobody has the right to push it on TV shows

How can you say you don't like Gays?  have you met everyone of them? 

Would you want to get shot in the head? How can you say "NO", have you ever been shot in the head?
You see you don't need to experience something to know that you won't like it/wouldn't want it happen to you. Does that make point?

Quite different getting shot in the head and being friends with a gay person.

It was just an example, (no hard feelings) might as well be friends with satanist. What would be wrong with that, some might say? Maybe one day you will find yourself being converted to whomever you hang out with (satanists, molesters, druggies, gay....)
Afterall they do have a saying "you are who you hang out with"

[RallyeMike]

 

[skip68]

"Can't we all just get along?? " 


Whhooo Hooooo!!!   In before the 

Mrs.Skip68

[bull]

I have been friends with several people who are gay and just like everyone else I like them or don't like them based on their personality, not their choices. I'm friends with lots of people who make choices I don't agree with, morally and otherwise but I don't hate them. In other words, love the sinner, hate the sin.

But I don't have to like what they do based on the choices they make and if they bring it up and try to change my mind about it I have the freedom to argue with them. I don't go around yelling at gay people about their lifestyles but the opposite should hold true too. That said there's absolutely no reason for Hollywood to be pushing an agenda aimed at coaxing, or in some cases forcing, their agenda onto people whose morals dictate otherwise. They don't like the persecution anymore than anyone else so why use the same methods on those who disagree with them? "Gay evangelism" isn't going to sway my opinion on homosexuality, it just makes me roll my eyes and turn the channel.