Trans Am anyone?

[jb666]

Trans Am's are great! But, The only Pontiac Big Block's ever produced were the 421 and 428... The 326,350,400 and 455 were all based on the same block and they are considered small blocks..

I have a 1967 Pontiac Firebird, 326 automatic 2.56 peg-leg rear.. the peg-leg will be replaced with a Safe-T-Track (posi for the Chebby guys) and 4:11's...

403 cid also?

Olds motor.. Doesn't count 

not trying to start or cause a hijack    but
never did understand all this GM stuff about you could get a  olds , cheby , buick & pontiac ...  all in 350 cubes , but they were all different engines
& i think the pontiac guys went mad when a cheby motor was factory fitted to their late model firebird 

Yeah they did!! I owned a cherry '81 T/A back in the day with a 5.0 in it. The car was amazing, and I wish I had kept it..

I had a '79 with the Olds 403 and back in the day I thought it was fast as lightning.

[Khyron]

No title = no deal...weirdo = run

yep. Let it go.

[dads_69]

I called the guy and asked him how can I go about getting the title. Heres the funny part, he said he can get one for 2 grand. I said I can get one for $150.00 after 90 days.
He said it was dropped off to him just as I see it years ago. He said it was a divorce situation. Engine code on air cleaner read 400 Cu. in.

Not sure now what to do, maybe walk away.

[FLG]

Do you any any friends in law enforcement that can run the vin for you?

[dads_69]

My neighbor, and three good friends can run the vin. But I won't attempt that until I find if I am going top buy it for sure.

[Khyron]

Not sure now what to do, maybe walk away.

I would walk away personally.

[chargerboy69]

Trans Am's are great! But, The only Pontiac Big Block's ever produced were the 421 and 428... The 326,350,400 and 455 were all based on the same block and they are considered small blocks..

I have a 1967 Pontiac Firebird, 326 automatic 2.56 peg-leg rear.. the peg-leg will be replaced with a Safe-T-Track (posi for the Chebby guys) and 4:11's...

403 cid also?

Olds motor.. Doesn't count 

not trying to start or cause a hijack    but
never did understand all this GM stuff about you could get a  olds , cheby , buick & pontiac ...  all in 350 cubes , but they were all different engines
& i think the pontiac guys went mad when a cheby motor was factory fitted to their late model firebird 

Yeah they did!! I owned a cherry '81 T/A back in the day with a 5.0 in it. The car was amazing, and I wish I had kept it..

I had a '79 with the Olds 403 and back in the day I thought it was fast as lightning.

You had a 81 with a 5.0L. Fairly rare car as all Trans Ams with Chevy 305 5.0L's were built in Canada, and if I am not mistaken all 4spd. cars too.

All US automatic cars got the 4.9L 301 engine. The only option was Turbo or carburated. Not much of a choice since both were junk.

I also had a 79 Oldsmobird with the 403. I wish I had that one back.

[chargerboy69]

Trans Am's are great! But, The only Pontiac Big Block's ever produced were the 421 and 428... The 326,350,400 and 455 were all based on the same block and they are considered small blocks..

I have a 1967 Pontiac Firebird, 326 automatic 2.56 peg-leg rear.. the peg-leg will be replaced with a Safe-T-Track (posi for the Chebby guys) and 4:11's...

403 cid also?

Olds motor.. Doesn't count 

not trying to start or cause a hijack    but
never did understand all this GM stuff about you could get a  olds , cheby , buick & pontiac ...  all in 350 cubes , but they were all different engines
& i think the pontiac guys went mad when a cheby motor was factory fitted to their late model firebird 

Trans Am guys still bitch when you put a Chevy in a Bird now. Personally I have a SBC 350 in my Bird and I like it. Parts are next to nothing and it runs very strong. But I still catch stuff from Pontiac enthusiast.

[BIRD67]

TO clear some stuff up on the Ponitac 350..In 1968 the 326 was replaced by the 350, which used a 3.875 in bore and 3.75 in stroke for a total displacement of 353.79 cu in although it was still called a 350 (5.7 L).


Chevrolet 350 V8 The engine's physical dimensions (oversquare 4.00-inch bore and 3.48-inch stroke, 102 mm by 88 mm)

The Buick 350 V8 had a 3.80 in bore (like the 231) and retained the 3.85 in stroke of the 340. It was introduced in 1968 and produced through 1980.

The major differences of the Buick 350 when compared to other GM V8's are deep skirt block construction, higher nickel-content cast iron, external oil pump, under square bore sizing, 3.0" crank main journals, and 6.5" connecting rods..The Buick 350 also had the longest stroke and is significantly wider that the Chevrolet 350, Oldsmobile 350 or Pontiac 350...


Now, onto the Oldsmobile 350...Produced from 1968 through 1980, the Rocket 350 was entirely different from the other GM divisions' 350's. It used a 4.057 in (103 mm) bore and Oldsmobile small-block standard 3.385 in (86 mm) stroke for 350 cubic inches (5.7 Litre)
The early Oldsmobile 350s made from 1968 thru 1976 are more desirable engines with heavy castings, beefier crankshafts, and better flowing heads. The later 1977 thru 1980 350 had the "lightweight" castings, including a thinner block with large "windows" in the main bearing bulkheads, crack-prone head castings which were actually manufactured by Pontiac Motor Division(castings are marked "PMD"; these heads were also used on the 260), and a lightened crankshaft. However, these ARE Oldsmoblie heads and do not interchange, just like the rest of them..

[tan top]

TO clear some stuff up on the Ponitac 350..In 1968 the 326 was replaced by the 350, which used a 3.875 in bore and 3.75 in stroke for a total displacement of 353.79 cu in although it was still called a 350 (5.7 L).


Chevrolet 350 V8 The engine's physical dimensions (oversquare 4.00-inch bore and 3.48-inch stroke, 102 mm by 88 mm)

The Buick 350 V8 had a 3.80 in bore (like the 231) and retained the 3.85 in stroke of the 340. It was introduced in 1968 and produced through 1980.

The major differences of the Buick 350 when compared to other GM V8's are deep skirt block construction, higher nickel-content cast iron, external oil pump, under square bore sizing, 3.0" crank main journals, and 6.5" connecting rods..The Buick 350 also had the longest stroke and is significantly wider that the Chevrolet 350, Oldsmobile 350 or Pontiac 350...


Now, onto the Oldsmobile 350...Produced from 1968 through 1980, the Rocket 350 was entirely different from the other GM divisions' 350's. It used a 4.057 in (103 mm) bore and Oldsmobile small-block standard 3.385 in (86 mm) stroke for 350 cubic inches (5.7 Litre)
The early Oldsmobile 350s made from 1968 thru 1976 are more desirable engines with heavy castings, beefier crankshafts, and better flowing heads. The later 1977 thru 1980 350 had the "lightweight" castings, including a thinner block with large "windows" in the main bearing bulkheads, crack-prone head castings which were actually manufactured by Pontiac Motor Division(castings are marked "PMD"; these heads were also used on the 260), and a lightened crankshaft. However, these ARE Oldsmoblie heads and do not interchange, just like the rest of them..

..............   thanks Man appreciate the info    lot of tecnical differences then    

[ACUDANUT]

One more reason I hate older gm muscle cars.  Nothing is interchangable.

[moparguy01]

id walk on it. the guy is doing things too flaky I think. no title = parts car = alot less than 3k. 50 bucks. I like the t/a's though, always have.

[TheGhost]

Trans Am guys still bitch when you put a Chevy in a Bird now. Personally I have a SBC 350 in my Bird and I like it. Parts are next to nothing and it runs very strong. But I still catch stuff from Pontiac enthusiast.

I'd give you shit for putting a Chevy engine in anything.  Including a Chevy.

[BIRD67]

Trans Am guys still bitch when you put a Chevy in a Bird now. Personally I have a SBC 350 in my Bird and I like it. Parts are next to nothing and it runs very strong. But I still catch stuff from Pontiac enthusiast.

I'd give you shit for putting a Chevy engine in anything.  Including a Chevy.

That's a good one!

[keepat]

I'm restoring a 72 Pontiac T/A and if you can get a rust free real 72 T/A for 5,000 buy it! Only 1286 T/A built in 72 and less then 1/3 are blue. In 78 they would build more then 1286 in a week! Note a 72 T/A would have a 455 H.O. not a 400. Good luck!
Pat

PS here are some pictures of my project.


















   

[ACUDANUT]

Dang, you have the best of the Big three. 

[68pplcharger]

Quote from: BIRD67 on February 16, 2009, 04:59:18 PM
Trans Am's are great! But, The only Pontiac Big Block's ever produced were the 421 and 428... The 326,350,400 and 455 were all based on the same block and they are considered small blocks..

I have a 1967 Pontiac Firebird, 326 automatic 2.56 peg-leg rear.. the peg-leg will be replaced with a Safe-T-Track (posi for the Chebby guys) and 4:11's...

I have a logical argument for the statement of big block and small block when relating to Pontiac. They never had a block that differed in external dimension other than the tall and short deck. The 421 and 428 were large journal compared to the others comparatively small journal, but the block dimension was still the same. With that being said; is the Pontiac block/motor the size comparable of other manufacturers big blocks or small blocks? The motors my older brother owned when I was a kid were the same size as the ford and Chevy big blocks of the day, that he owned at the same time. I've found a few web sites that list dimensions of many motors as well, and the Pontiac is definitely in line with the big blocks of all three (Mopar non-hemi,Chevy,Ford). The weight is also approximately the same for Pontiac, Chevy, and Ford. They didn't have a two block sizes, but the one they had was definitely a big block when compared to the other manufactures IMO

http://www.carnut.com/specs/fengdim.html

[1969chargerrtse]

Trans Am guys still bitch when you put a Chevy in a Bird now. Personally I have a SBC 350 in my Bird and I like it. Parts are next to nothing and it runs very strong. But I still catch stuff from Pontiac enthusiast.

I'd give you shit for putting a Chevy engine in anything.  Including a Chevy.

I love Chevy's, but that was funny.
I had a 80 Turbo Trans Am Pace Car.  That was one awesome car.  That thing stuck to the road like it was welded down to the pavement.  It had the funky 3 lamps across the hood as the turbo wound up.  Ha ha.  A friend beat me in his 81 Z/28 in a highway race and I said I wasn't even on it.  He started laughing saying  " I saw those 3 stupid lamps lit up across the hood " . Guilty.

[ny2000ramtough]

I wouldn't mess with the car personally.  Too many "iffy" issues with it. I thought he told you he had someone who would give him $5k the minute you left if yuo didn't buy it right then? He's still got it?  What's worng with that picture? The guy's a dillweed , no doubt about it. 

[68charger383]

Call the guy up and tell him you found a El camino two towns over for $2,500. However, you like the T/A a little more than that car. On Saturday morning your going to put a deposit on the car unless we have a deal for $3k or not.  He'll probably tell you no.

If he doesn't call you back by Friday night, walk.............

[694spdRT]

This is where I like to spend my free time. 

[ACUDANUT]

 694spdrt,
I wants some pic's of that 76 W200 Camper Special.  BTW I thought all Camper Specials were 2WD =D200 ??
Also on your list of cars, there is not a Pontiac listed Nice, but does it have T-tops.  I can't tell.

[captnsim]

Hood scoop looks a little low on that TA... Still really nice 

[694spdRT]

694spdrt,
I wants some pic's of that 76 W200 Camper Special.  BTW I thought all Camper Specials were 2WD =D200 ??
Also on your list of cars, there is not a Pontiac listed Nice, but does it have T-tops.  I can't tell.

My truck isn't a camper special. It is just an Adventurer club cab. There are some pics of it in this thread. It is a workhorse, not show pony. BTW: It has a '78 grill in it.  

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,42969.0.html

I only list my Mopar stuff in the signature. The T/A has T-top's and a 400 4 speed.   

[694spdRT]

Hood scoop looks a little low on that TA... Still really nice 

The '77 Trans Am scoops are different and do sit much lower than other years.