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70-71 Barracudas?

Started by Harlow, February 14, 2009, 09:14:43 PM

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Harlow

My patience may have paid off. Someone I know, knows a lady looking to sell her 'Cuda. I still haven't been able to go look at it but it is a 70 or 71. I'm supposed to have a price from her this weekend. The cars were her husbands, the barracuda is more of a project and they have a blown 69 charger race car (I'll get pics of both) Are there any parts I should look for on this car? Anything extremely expensive I should make sure it has? I'm guessing I should make sure the grill is in good shape, maybe tail lights? I don't know what model/engine combo it is yet so it could be a /6 barracuda or a 'Cuda. Frankly I don't really care though. I really hope I'm able to pick it up. Its been long enough to not have a mopar project. I've settled into school and I'm ready for a mopar again.

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The grille for sure. Those things are expensive.
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good luck but chances are they arent going to be cheap .

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hemi-hampton

The 71 Cuda will have the vented fenders, The 71 Chessegrater grill hard to find unbroken & expensive to replace. LEON.

elitecustombody

Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 15, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
The 71 Cuda will have the vented fenders, The 71 Chessegrater grill hard to find unbroken & expensive to replace. LEON.

usually Hemi-Cuda will have gilled fenders, not regular Cuda


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Ghoste

All Cudas had the gilled fenders, regular Barracudas do not.  You may be thinking of the flared wheelwell fenders that went on the Hemi cars and TA cars.

elitecustombody

Quote from: Ghoste on February 17, 2009, 11:35:53 PM
All Cudas had the gilled fenders, regular Barracudas do not.  You may be thinking of the flared wheelwell fenders that went on the Hemi cars and TA cars.

where are you getting your info? 90% of real Cudas in existence do not have gilled fenders ,there are bunch of resto-mods with aftermarket gilled fenders,but most Cudas don't have gilled fenders


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Stefan

71ChallengeHer

71 Cuda's have gilled fenders.  :2thumbs: 

Ghoste

For 1971?  Well, I guess my information first comes from years of observation but since I haven't seen every Cuda I can only say that every Cuda I have seen has the gilled fenders.  The same ones they show in the 1971 brochures for Cudas and the road tests of the era.
There may be a handful of resto mods with the added gills but since they have only been out for a few years it only leaves one of two possibilities for 25 or so years prior to that; either every 71 Cuda I saw had the gills added by someone painstakingly crafting them by hand or all 71 Cudas had them.  Not Barracudas, Cudas.
I'll stand my statement and ask where you are getting your information that only Hemi cars had them?

ACUDANUT

 That's not correct. Me being the Cuda Nut, I will lay my life on the line on this one and bet you a million bucks. Barracuda= plain jane no gills and no frills.  All real 71 'CUDAS have the gilled fenders.  340's on up to the 426's.
Even the girls know this. :smilielol: (no offense)
Also real Cuda's have a VIN that starts BS23 I beleive.  Do they not ???

71ChallengeHer

Let me help you guys out a little bit.  :2thumbs:

71ChallengeHer

and there you go a 71 plain jane

ACUDANUT

 Yes your a girl, and I hate green  :nana:
Nice pic BTW what does the Barracuda's VIN start out as ??

elitecustombody

OP never made it clear if it was 70 or 71, so you owe me a million bucks :smilielol:


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ACUDANUT

Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 15, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
The 71 Cuda will have the vented fenders, The 71 Chessegrater grill hard to find unbroken & expensive to replace. LEON.

usually Hemi-Cuda will have gilled fenders, not regular Cuda
Sorry read his last post.  :nana:

71ChallengeHer

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 18, 2009, 12:03:46 AM
Yes your a girl, and I hate green  :nana:
Nice pic BTW what does the Barracuda's VIN start out as ??
BH  :nana:  Thank you and I happen to like green on my Challenger.  :slap:  And I owned 3 Barracudas.  :D

ACUDANUT

 Girl you are awesome.  Why didn't I find a girl like you 10 years ago.  :brickwall:

71ChallengeHer

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 18, 2009, 12:16:46 AM
Girl you are awesome.  Why didn't I find a girl like you 10 years ago.  :brickwall:
Check above. I modifed my post  :smilielol: :smilielol:

ACUDANUT

 Three Barracuda's ?? Your my Hero.
Wait a minute, what about CHARGERS ???

elitecustombody

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 18, 2009, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 15, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
The 71 Cuda will have the vented fenders, The 71 Chessegrater grill hard to find unbroken & expensive to replace. LEON.

usually Hemi-Cuda will have gilled fenders, not regular Cuda
Sorry read his last post.  :nana:

hemi-hampton  is not OP


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Stefan

ACUDANUT


71ChallengeHer

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 18, 2009, 12:20:48 AM
Three Barracuda's ?? Your my Hero.
Wait a minute, what about CHARGERS ???
I  owned 1 69 Charger. And I think BP was  Barracuda Gran Coupe

elitecustombody

Quote from: Ghoste on February 17, 2009, 11:48:53 PM
For 1971?  Well, I guess my information first comes from years of observation but since I haven't seen every Cuda I can only say that every Cuda I have seen has the gilled fenders.  The same ones they show in the 1971 brochures for Cudas and the road tests of the era.
There may be a handful of resto mods with the added gills but since they have only been out for a few years it only leaves one of two possibilities for 25 or so years prior to that; either every 71 Cuda I saw had the gills added by someone painstakingly crafting them by hand or all 71 Cudas had them.  Not Barracudas, Cudas.
I'll stand my statement and ask where you are getting your information that only Hemi cars had them?

sorry,I had a brain fart, yes,all 71 Cudas had them,not the plain Barracuda with small block or /6  ,I wasn't even trying to argue there


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hemi-hampton

You say original poster never made it clear if 70 or 71. If you read again I did specify 71. You seemed to imply year did not matter but if it was a Hemi or not seemed to make the differance. Even the girl knew more then you did :scratchchin: :shruggy: :Twocents: :slap: LEON.

elitecustombody

LMAO! I couldn't care less what you specified   :slap: ::) :eyes::hah::shruggy: :nana:,the OP never made it clear what year was the car,I think I know enough that only 71 Cudas have gilled fenders, you wanna keep going at it? :rofl:


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Quote from: Harlow on February 14, 2009, 09:14:43 PM
My patience may have paid off. Someone I know, knows a lady looking to sell her 'Cuda. I still haven't been able to go look at it but it is a 70 or 71. I'm supposed to have a price from her this weekend. The cars were her husbands, the barracuda is more of a project and they have a blown 69 charger race car (I'll get pics of both) Are there any parts I should look for on this car? Anything extremely expensive I should make sure it has? I'm guessing I should make sure the grill is in good shape, maybe tail lights?

Either year is cool, but a '71 is my favorite of the two & still the hardest to get parts for. The sheet metal is easier to get than it used to be, but the lower front valance for the '71 is still not being made, & crusty used ones still get big money. The '71 grille is probably the most important part, & the aftermarket one from Premiere Plastics has quality issues "IF" you can get it without being ripped off. (I bought one & know first hand) Used grilles that need work are over $1000 & the mint ones are over $2500 or so. All the trim on the grille is being reproduced, but the 6 smaller inserts I am not sure about.

The '70 grilles are available from another company that has a decent reputation, but I haven't seen them in person.

Quote from: Harlow on February 14, 2009, 09:14:43 PM
I don't know what model/engine combo it is yet so it could be a /6 barracuda or a 'Cuda. Frankly I don't really care though. I really hope I'm able to pick it up. Its been long enough to not have a mopar project. I've settled into school and I'm ready for a mopar again.


Look in the typical Mopar rust locations, like the floors, trunk, quarters, frame rails, window channels, rockers, & lower doors. The other spots on the E-Bodies to look at seem to be the cowl & firewall areas, as well as the inner fenders where the hood hinges are.
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Harlow

Thats for all the replies. Didn't mean to insight an argument haha.

As for an update, I talked with a local guy who had went to look at the cars around a year ago. The barracuda was a pretty disassembled project '69 fastback. They wanted 30k for the barracuda and 70k for the '69 charger race car... I still haven't heard back from them personally so that may change, I might take a look at them for pictures etc...they live really close to me.

I should have known better...I was hoping I had lucked into getting a 70-71 cuda for cheap haha


Ghoste

Not an argument just a misunderstanding and since the part in question was kind of an important detail it was necessary to hash it out.  Its all good now.  :icon_smile_big:
I wonder if their prices have changed on those cars in the new economy?

hemi-hampton

Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 15, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
The 71 Cuda will have the vented fenders, The 71 Chessegrater grill hard to find unbroken & expensive to replace. LEON.

usually Hemi-Cuda will have gilled fenders, not regular Cuda

If you were commenting on the original poster then why did you quote my comment :scratchchin: :shruggy: LEON.

elitecustombody

Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 18, 2009, 10:24:04 PM
Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 15, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
The 71 Cuda will have the vented fenders, The 71 Chessegrater grill hard to find unbroken & expensive to replace. LEON.

usually Hemi-Cuda will have gilled fenders, not regular Cuda

If you were commenting on the original poster then why did you quote my comment :scratchchin: :shruggy: LEON.

LMAO! Can we drop this already  :brickwall::shruggy:


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ACUDANUT

   Did you get an education yet on the Cuda' yet.  :icon_smile_big:

hemi-hampton

I'm sensing some Hostilty. :shruggy:

WINGR

Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 17, 2009, 11:35:53 PM
All Cudas had the gilled fenders, regular Barracudas do not.  You may be thinking of the flared wheelwell fenders that went on the Hemi cars and TA cars.

where are you getting your info? 90% of real Cudas in existence do not have gilled fenders ,there are bunch of resto-mods with aftermarket gilled fenders,but most Cudas don't have gilled fenders

All actual 1971 Cuda's no matter what engine, should have gilled fenders. The reason that alot of the "Resto-Mods" have aftermarket gills is because they have been made from regular Barracuda's.

elitecustombody

Quote from: WINGR on February 19, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 17, 2009, 11:35:53 PM
All Cudas had the gilled fenders, regular Barracudas do not.  You may be thinking of the flared wheelwell fenders that went on the Hemi cars and TA cars.

where are you getting your info? 90% of real Cudas in existence do not have gilled fenders ,there are bunch of resto-mods with aftermarket gilled fenders,but most Cudas don't have gilled fenders

All actual 1971 Cuda's no matter what engine, should have gilled fenders. The reason that alot of the "Resto-Mods" have aftermarket gills is because they have been made from regular Barracuda's.

really? do you know if 71 cudas had gilled fenders?or did the barracudas have them?  :horse:



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Stefan

69 OUR/TEA

Wow!!
 
     and on another note,can't speak for the hemi cars,but not all  T/A cars  had  the "rolled-lip fenders'',as the tires were E-60's,they probably thought they would'nt hit,and since they were only made for 5 weeks,since it was late into the run of them,they most likely just did the late ones.

hemi-hampton

I Restored a original Black T/A & it needed a Fender replaced. I carefully checked for a rolled lip & did not see any so replaced with a regular fender. LEON.

ACUDANUT

Quote from: elitecustombody on February 19, 2009, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: WINGR on February 19, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: elitecustombody on February 17, 2009, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 17, 2009, 11:35:53 PM
All Cudas had the gilled fenders, regular Barracudas do not.  You may be thinking of the flared wheelwell fenders that went on the Hemi cars and TA cars.

where are you getting your info? 90% of real Cudas in existence do not have gilled fenders ,there are bunch of resto-mods with aftermarket gilled fenders,but most Cudas don't have gilled fenders

All actual 1971 Cuda's no matter what engine, should have gilled fenders. The reason that alot of the "Resto-Mods" have aftermarket gills is because they have been made from regular Barracuda's.

really? do you know if 71 cudas had gilled fenders?or did the barracudas have them?  :horse:



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